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SA: Seizing land from white farmers
masukuma
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:14:10 AM
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A good step... but of course the devil is in the details... Agriculture is a culture... if your great grandfather was a miner, your grandfather was a miner, your father a miner and you yourself a miner - utajua kulima aje? Farming is not for everyone!
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mkenyan
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:44:09 AM
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masukuma wrote:


A good step... but of course the devil is in the details... Agriculture is a culture... if your great grandfather was a miner, your grandfather was a miner, your father a miner and you yourself a miner - utajua kulima aje? Farming is not for everyone!

this wont end well. look at how they handled the black empowerment issue.
harrydre
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:31:52 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
masukuma wrote:


A good step... but of course the devil is in the details... Agriculture is a culture... if your great grandfather was a miner, your grandfather was a miner, your father a miner and you yourself a miner - utajua kulima aje? Farming is not for everyone!

this wont end well. look at how they handled the black empowerment issue.


It's their land. Let it go back to it's rightful owners. They will learn how to farm in any case, just as their ancestors were forced to mine.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:26:12 PM
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harrydre wrote:


It's their land. Let it go back to it's rightful owners. They will learn how to farm in any case, just as their ancestors were forced to mine.

Expropriation without compensation.

Let's see how it ends. Me thinks Kenya owes Jomo and his govt for their foresight and not going by this route which was the popular thing to do.

Africans in 1963 wanted all whites expelled from Kenya and all their property taken back. But those were trying times. The economy was declining as the whites had started leaving after Mau Mau insurgency broke out in the 50s. A new wave of emigration started when violence broke out in newly independent Congo(DRC) in 1960.

With these property prices tumbled and the economy contracted as Whites largely controlled the economy. I think there was wisdom in Kenyatta I's govt opting to negotiate the whites out and compensating them to stem a collapse of the economy.

For SA, it is good that they do redistribution but with compensation. Remember these whites have been there since 1652.
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masukuma
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:51:11 PM
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it's brewing for a while... i think that is why Mandela refused a second term. I always felt that they would wait until he died before coming out and asking for this... We have always considered Mandela as a great man... why?








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Baratang
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:09:36 PM
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Another Zimbambwe in the offing. Whatever SA does with the land expropriation is a slight variation from the way Zimbabwe handled it...Where did it end up in? In the DOGS!!!
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:14:18 PM
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masukuma wrote:
it's brewing for a while... i think that is why Mandela refused a second term. I always felt that they would wait until he died before coming out and asking for this... We have always considered Mandela as a great man... why?









Must be from the speech at Oxford. Made me see Malema in different light(he's bright) but I still disagree with that style of land reforms
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masukuma
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:58:03 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's brewing for a while... i think that is why Mandela refused a second term. I always felt that they would wait until he died before coming out and asking for this... We have always considered Mandela as a great man... why?









Must be from the speech at Oxford. Made me see Malema in different light(he's bright) but I still disagree with that style of land reforms

I was looking for this very recording! couldn't find it but found the tweets. thanks!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:29:04 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's brewing for a while... i think that is why Mandela refused a second term. I always felt that they would wait until he died before coming out and asking for this... We have always considered Mandela as a great man... why?









Must be from the speech at Oxford. Made me see Malema in different light(he's bright) but I still disagree with that style of land reforms

I was looking for this very recording! couldn't find it but found the tweets. thanks!

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harrydre
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:23:26 PM
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Yes they will go down initially but will rise up again. They have resources. Though with a good number of whites in the country, they might avoid the harsh punishment from the west.
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