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President Yoweri K Museveni philosophy of development
Fyatu
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:51:45 PM
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I have browsed wazua for a thread about M7 philosophy on development or how he goes about governing Uganda with no success. It is amazing how we(wazuans) have overlooked(underrated) this mzee. In my endeavors to waste my employers time, i stumbled upon this photo from the mzee twitters page.

He calls his farm in Luweero "The Presidential Demonstration farm" which he uses to propagate his ideology/philosophy of development to Ugandans. He is so much into agriculture and his model of economic development might seem rudimentary to a regular kizungu-nyingi-na-catwalk Kenyan, but seems more sustainable.

His ideas on industrial parks are modest(like those of prof. Kivutha of Makueni) compared to ours(think Eldoret industrial park). He is rarely in state house Entebbe and can be found frolicking with villagers debating mundane stuff such as drip irrigation and bottle irrigation etc..

From the above kizungu nyingi and other reasons, i think the M7 model deserves a thread in this great forum.

References

1. Yoweri Museveni official twitter page
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sitaki.kujulikana
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:46:07 PM
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From a quick glance at his twitter page, he seems very interested in agriculture and building churches, which is a good thing, but I wish african leaders and in this case since we are discussing m7, put more effort on cleanliness, and to achieve that two things come to mind paved roads and piped water.

usafi will go a long way in improving peoples livelihoods, and since m7 has failed to do that in the past 20 something years, his philosophy is just that.
Fyatu
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:28:11 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
From a quick glance at his twitter page, he seems very interested in agriculture and building churches, which is a good thing, but I wish african leaders and in this case since we are discussing m7, put more effort on cleanliness, and to achieve that two things come to mind paved roads and piped water.

usafi will go a long way in improving peoples livelihoods, and since m7 has failed to do that in the past 20 something years, his philosophy is just that.


Do you mean there is no tap water and paved roads huko? Or are you referring to the unrivaled chaos of champala city?
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sitaki.kujulikana
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:43:10 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
From a quick glance at his twitter page, he seems very interested in agriculture and building churches, which is a good thing, but I wish african leaders and in this case since we are discussing m7, put more effort on cleanliness, and to achieve that two things come to mind paved roads and piped water.

usafi will go a long way in improving peoples livelihoods, and since m7 has failed to do that in the past 20 something years, his philosophy is just that.


Do you mean there is no tap water and paved roads huko? Or are you referring to the unrivaled chaos of champala city?

of course there is, but only for a select few households, you know in Africa we still have majority of the population residing in the rural areas.

There is something about cleanliness that just makes people to be better beings, you notice those who live, and even those people from slums who work in the upmarket gated estates will never litter ovyo ovyo, even while in such estates most people are kinder and tend to follow the order set.

I think if focus is on cleanliness and ways of making the same better to maintain we would generally make bigger strides towards cannan, and to be clean alot of water is needed and paved roads and walkways make it easier to maintain that cleanliness.
hardwood
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:17:26 PM
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I like how he has practical solutions to the problems afflicting Ugandans. Kenyans should use the advice.....




murchr
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:21:38 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
I have browsed wazua for a thread about M7 philosophy on development or how he goes about governing Uganda with no success. It is amazing how we(wazuans) have overlooked(underrated) this mzee. In my endeavors to waste my employers time, i stumbled upon this photo from the mzee twitters page.

He calls his farm in Luweero "The Presidential Demonstration farm" which he uses to propagate his ideology/philosophy of development to Ugandans. He is so much into agriculture and his model of economic development might seem rudimentary to a regular kizungu-nyingi-na-catwalk Kenyan, but seems more sustainable.

His ideas on industrial parks are modest(like those of prof. Kivutha of Makueni) compared to ours(think Eldoret industrial park). He is rarely in state house Entebbe and can be found frolicking with villagers debating mundane stuff such as drip irrigation and bottle irrigation etc..

From the above kizungu nyingi and other reasons, i think the M7 model deserves a thread in this great forum.

References

1. Yoweri Museveni official twitter page



Makueni has industrial parks? Didn't know that. What you see on Twirra may not be a representative of the facts. The twirra account is run by professional PR agents well trained by our own Cynthia Nyamai so it will take a trip to the land of Buganda to see trully what M7 has done.

How much can than mgomba cost in the KE market?
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#7 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:24:16 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
From a quick glance at his twitter page, he seems very interested in agriculture and building churches, which is a good thing, but I wish african leaders and in this case since we are discussing m7, put more effort on cleanliness, and to achieve that two things come to mind paved roads and piped water.

usafi will go a long way in improving peoples livelihoods, and since m7 has failed to do that in the past 20 something years, his philosophy is just that.

Correction, 32 years. Since January 26, 1986
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Fyatu
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:08:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
I have browsed wazua for a thread about M7 philosophy on development or how he goes about governing Uganda with no success. It is amazing how we(wazuans) have overlooked(underrated) this mzee. In my endeavors to waste my employers time, i stumbled upon this photo from the mzee twitters page.

He calls his farm in Luweero "The Presidential Demonstration farm" which he uses to propagate his ideology/philosophy of development to Ugandans. He is so much into agriculture and his model of economic development might seem rudimentary to a regular kizungu-nyingi-na-catwalk Kenyan, but seems more sustainable.

His ideas on industrial parks are modest(like those of prof. Kivutha of Makueni) compared to ours(think Eldoret industrial park). He is rarely in state house Entebbe and can be found frolicking with villagers debating mundane stuff such as drip irrigation and bottle irrigation etc..

From the above kizungu nyingi and other reasons, i think the M7 model deserves a thread in this great forum.

References

1. Yoweri Museveni official twitter page



Makueni has industrial parks? Didn't know that. What you see on Twirra may not be a representative of the facts. The twirra account is run by professional PR agents well trained by our own Cynthia Nyamai so it will take a trip to the land of Buganda to see trully what M7 has done.

How much can than mgomba cost in the KE market?



Sorry i did not mean to say Makueni has an industrial park.I was referring to Makueni fruit pulp factory. Museveni's idea of an industrial park is that which manufactures/adds value to simple things/commodities/natural resources that is abundant in Africa but taken for granted and fed to dogs.He, like Kivutha, has encouraged simple development as building of fruit factories in rural areas as part of agricultural industrial parks.

1. LINK 1

2. LINK 2

Africans have been singing the song of value addition for many years but little is done. We have this kasumba that value addition is a complex thing and procrastinate about it forever. Value addition is not complex...look at finlays or willamson or sasini tea. An example of value addition. Look at delmonte whose products can be found in supermarket shelves in London etc.Don't be shocked when the sweet apple mango from Makueni starts being transported by KQ to New york come September or a later date.Thus,i think M7s approach to economic growth is sustainable.

Come to think of it, the good prof of Makueni county can build all these factories(milk, mangoes and many others) in one area of Wote town and "organically" build an industrial park.

Yes, i am aware that twirra can be used to "paka mtu mafuta kwa mgongo wa chupa" but credit should be given where credit is due.

I wouldn't know how that mgomba cost
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murchr
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:57:38 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
murchr wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
I have browsed wazua for a thread about M7 philosophy on development or how he goes about governing Uganda with no success. It is amazing how we(wazuans) have overlooked(underrated) this mzee. In my endeavors to waste my employers time, i stumbled upon this photo from the mzee twitters page.

He calls his farm in Luweero "The Presidential Demonstration farm" which he uses to propagate his ideology/philosophy of development to Ugandans. He is so much into agriculture and his model of economic development might seem rudimentary to a regular kizungu-nyingi-na-catwalk Kenyan, but seems more sustainable.

His ideas on industrial parks are modest(like those of prof. Kivutha of Makueni) compared to ours(think Eldoret industrial park). He is rarely in state house Entebbe and can be found frolicking with villagers debating mundane stuff such as drip irrigation and bottle irrigation etc..

From the above kizungu nyingi and other reasons, i think the M7 model deserves a thread in this great forum.

References

1. Yoweri Museveni official twitter page



Makueni has industrial parks? Didn't know that. What you see on Twirra may not be a representative of the facts. The twirra account is run by professional PR agents well trained by our own Cynthia Nyamai so it will take a trip to the land of Buganda to see trully what M7 has done.

How much can than mgomba cost in the KE market?



Sorry i did not mean to say Makueni has an industrial park.I was referring to Makueni fruit pulp factory. Museveni's idea of an industrial park is that which manufactures/adds value to simple things/commodities/natural resources that is abundant in Africa but taken for granted and fed to dogs.He, like Kivutha, has encouraged simple development as building of fruit factories in rural areas as part of agricultural industrial parks.

1. LINK 1

2. LINK 2

Africans have been singing the song of value addition for many years but little is done. We have this kasumba that value addition is a complex thing and procrastinate about it forever. Value addition is not complex...look at finlays or willamson or sasini tea. An example of value addition. Look at delmonte whose products can be found in supermarket shelves in London etc.Don't be shocked when the sweet apple mango from Makueni starts being transported by KQ to New york come September or a later date.Thus,i think M7s approach to economic growth is sustainable.

Come to think of it, the good prof of Makueni county can build all these factories(milk, mangoes and many others) in one area of Wote town and "organically" build an industrial park.

Yes, i am aware that twirra can be used to "paka mtu mafuta kwa mgongo wa chupa" but credit should be given where credit is due.

I wouldn't know how that mgomba cost


Thanks for the clarification. Am very supportive of your idea on value addition and i hope we'll do more of that.

In the few times i travel and I find myself going through the shelves of supermarkets to see what people out there have and in the process, noted that you can get so much from what we grow in East Africa. But we need to be consumers of our goods and revolutionize our meals and eating "Habits". As an example, Apart from unga and oil, we can get sugar, bio degradable plastic etc

Our staple Kenyan breakfast is tea and bread. Must the bread be wheat based? Why not banana bread? Pumpkin bread, sweet potato bread? Our culture needs a revolution if we need to leap steps forward

I once came across Kenyan coffee...labelled as Kenyan coffee in a supermarket and not a dukawalla and it really felt good. But even as we seek to add value, production costs must come down significantly. Cost of power, transportation, availability of water etc etc
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 1:02:54 PM
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#11 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 2:37:10 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
[quote=Fyatu][quote=sitaki.kujulikana]

There is something about cleanliness that just makes people to be better beings, you notice those who live, and even those people from slums who work in the upmarket gated estates will never litter ovyo ovyo, even while in such estates most people are kinder and tend to follow the order set.

I think if focus is on cleanliness and ways of making the same better to maintain we would generally make bigger strides towards cannan, and to be clean alot of water is needed and paved roads and walkways make it easier to maintain that cleanliness.


Hapo umenena without even realising it.

A neglected house attracts vandals. A neglected compound attracts tresspassers.

The grafitti on matatus encourages matatu madness.


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Fyatu
#12 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 8:43:15 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Source of the Nile Bridge, Jinja.
Cost $112M
Length 525M
BeautifulApplause




It was highlighted on CNBCA yesterday.Very beautiful indedd especially at night. The Entebe-Kampala superhighway looks beautiful at night too.I could not believe it was Uganda.
One thing i found absurd is that the bridge was being marketed as a tourist attraction...ama kweli sisi wa-Africa tuko na shida.Eti sasa bridge ni tourist attraction?
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hardwood
#13 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 9:49:41 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Source of the Nile Bridge, Jinja.
Cost $112M
Length 525M
BeautifulApplause




It was highlighted on CNBCA yesterday.Very beautiful indedd especially at night. The Entebe-Kampala superhighway looks beautiful at night too.I could not believe it was Uganda.
One thing i found absurd is that the bridge was being marketed as a tourist attraction...ama kweli sisi wa-Africa tuko na shida.Eti sasa bridge ni tourist attraction?


It's Ok. It makes one have a panoramic view of the source of the nile. Which is something that has fascinated humanity even during the days of the pharaoh. That bridge is an important tourist attraction.

hardwood
#14 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 9:54:22 PM
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The construction was epic. Much respect to the engineers.










Testing the bridge with overloaded trucks. It showed that the bridge is up to, and even beyond, international standards...



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#15 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 3:08:18 AM
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Besigye once admitted that the man is a strategic thinker. He plans ten or even twenty steps ahead. before he even begins to implement anything he puts his mind to, no emotions involved. Unfortunately he uses almost all his talents for self preservation. Development is secondary to him. But I generally like the guy. Ni ka sungura mjanja. He can slap you terribly and then charm you into understanding the reasons why he slapped you for your own benefit, using humour and a self effacing style and interesting stories that make him seem very harmless.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:49:58 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Source of the Nile Bridge, Jinja.
Cost $112M
Length 525M
BeautifulApplause




It was highlighted on CNBCA yesterday.Very beautiful indedd especially at night. The Entebe-Kampala superhighway looks beautiful at night too.I could not believe it was Uganda.
One thing i found absurd is that the bridge was being marketed as a tourist attraction...ama kweli sisi wa-Africa tuko na shida.Eti sasa bridge ni tourist attraction?

It actually is.. Just like the LA bridge

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#17 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:37:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Source of the Nile Bridge, Jinja.
Cost $112M
Length 525M
BeautifulApplause




It was highlighted on CNBCA yesterday.Very beautiful indedd especially at night. The Entebe-Kampala superhighway looks beautiful at night too.I could not believe it was Uganda.
One thing i found absurd is that the bridge was being marketed as a tourist attraction...ama kweli sisi wa-Africa tuko na shida.Eti sasa bridge ni tourist attraction?

It actually is.. Just like the LA bridge

Yeah, remember it's on the Nile
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#18 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 2:30:05 PM
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We can't judge a philosophy by referring to it alone. We have no way of knowing whether it's great.

But we can praise anything, if it has objects that we hold dear. Like fish, bridges, cars, 'obsessions'. Logic without emotion and other common delusions.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:31:45 AM
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Mr Museveni, who said he enjoyed the dialogue, told his opponents that he will not think of relinquishing power until he is satisfied that the “prosperity and strategic security of Africa have been achieved”.

“I hear people like Mao talking about transition, how they would like to sit in the audience and see Museveni handing over power. That is the most important thing for him. I do not think that is the most important and it is good he is saying that,” Mr Museveni said on Thursday.
“So, the political class, instead of talking about the destiny of Africa, you are talking about petty things— elections, who becomes who. That is why I have said if I still have strength, I will continue,” he continued.
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#20 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2018 7:37:02 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
[quote=Fyatu][quote=sitaki.kujulikana]

There is something about cleanliness that just makes people to be better beings, you notice those who live, and even those people from slums who work in the upmarket gated estates will never litter ovyo ovyo, even while in such estates most people are kinder and tend to follow the order set.

I think if focus is on cleanliness and ways of making the same better to maintain we would generally make bigger strides towards cannan, and to be clean alot of water is needed and paved roads and walkways make it easier to maintain that cleanliness.


Hapo umenena without even realising it.

A neglected house attracts vandals. A neglected compound attracts tresspassers.

The grafitti on matatus encourages matatu madness.



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