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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Just read a Forbes article that Cape Town will run out of water in 90 days!!! All I can say is wah!
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Which other source can we get water for Nairobi?
River Tana, Athi, Lake Victoria through online pumping stations by pipes or tunnels?
Why can't the govt take over the Limuru dam( Hippopotamus dam) deepen it and expand it by buying the adjacent land then fencing it to provide back up water from underground and rains?
The Road at this area should as well be lifted and well expanded to 6 lanes
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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Realtreaty wrote:Which other source can we get water for Nairobi?
River Tana, Athi, Lake Victoria through online pumping stations by pipes or tunnels?
Why can't the govt take over the Limuru dam( Hippopotamus dam) deepen it and expand it by buying the adjacent land then fencing it to provide back up water from underground and rains?
The Road at this area should as well be lifted and well expanded to 6 lanes Rain Water. If every building collected rain water, stored it for domestic use, the need for other sources would be minimal. The level of water waste in urban areas in amazing. Imagine flushing 20 litres of water to clear 100gms pooh! Work out the waste in an average household where even pee is flushed! Add water lost while brushing when taps run through out the process. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Gathige wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Which other source can we get water for Nairobi?
River Tana, Athi, Lake Victoria through online pumping stations by pipes or tunnels?
Why can't the govt take over the Limuru dam( Hippopotamus dam) deepen it and expand it by buying the adjacent land then fencing it to provide back up water from underground and rains?
The Road at this area should as well be lifted and well expanded to 6 lanes Rain Water. If every building collected rain water, stored it for domestic use, the need for other sources would be minimal. The level of water waste in urban areas in amazing. Imagine flushing 20 litres of water to clear 100gms pooh! Work out the waste in an average household where even pee is flushed! Add water lost while brushing when taps run through out the process. Yes, we take clean water purified expensively, add shit and throw it away. I wonder if anyone does research on alternatives to water-borne sanitation in kenia. It is possible to take care of poop without flushing with water.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Gathige wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Which other source can we get water for Nairobi?
River Tana, Athi, Lake Victoria through online pumping stations by pipes or tunnels?
Why can't the govt take over the Limuru dam( Hippopotamus dam) deepen it and expand it by buying the adjacent land then fencing it to provide back up water from underground and rains?
The Road at this area should as well be lifted and well expanded to 6 lanes Rain Water. If every building collected rain water, stored it for domestic use, the need for other sources would be minimal. The level of water waste in urban areas in amazing. Imagine flushing 20 litres of water to clear 100gms pooh! Work out the waste in an average household where even pee is flushed! Add water lost while brushing when taps run through out the process. Without thinking about poop. If all landlords can be asked to have gutters draining water towards a managed water reservoir then this water is constantly pumped to storage tanks meant for supply later companies like Roto would not make so much money. Those who grew up in the gold old days remember seeing these kind of tanks  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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majimaji wrote:Gathige wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Which other source can we get water for Nairobi?
River Tana, Athi, Lake Victoria through online pumping stations by pipes or tunnels?
Why can't the govt take over the Limuru dam( Hippopotamus dam) deepen it and expand it by buying the adjacent land then fencing it to provide back up water from underground and rains?
The Road at this area should as well be lifted and well expanded to 6 lanes Rain Water. If every building collected rain water, stored it for domestic use, the need for other sources would be minimal. The level of water waste in urban areas in amazing. Imagine flushing 20 litres of water to clear 100gms pooh! Work out the waste in an average household where even pee is flushed! Add water lost while brushing when taps run through out the process. Yes, we take clean water purified expensively, add shit and throw it away. I wonder if anyone does research on alternatives to water-borne sanitation in kenia. It is possible to take care of poop without flushing with water. No one wants alternatives as the conventional ways are avenues for quick cash. No wonder we end up drinking pooh water as the water browsers also double up as the honey suckers depending on the season. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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2012 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:Even without the water cartels, water for every Nairobian would be a problem. The root cause of all Nairobi's problems is over crowding. The reason for the overcrowding is that Nairobi is the only place where there is serious economic opportunity for most Kenyans(or at least that is the perception) so everyone flocks huko causing big pressure on the local resources. We need to be serious with devolution, it is the key to solving a lot of Kenya's problems. Maybe a few visionary governors can develop several powerhouse counties that Kenyans can look for opportunities in I do not agree. The problem is cartels. This one you cannot even blame poor planning or unwillingness. Just like KPLC, Nairobi Water has it's engineers and experts to map out the city and provide the service. All the major cities in the world are growing with many growing faster than Nairobi so these are just excuses. Remember that the affluent Nairobians have dug their boreholes some as close as 10 meters apart so the real victim here is the middle class and we know the middle class in Kenya is also known as the coward class. If these cartels are well known, why is police not arresting. Why is Sonko not naming and shaming? Why are we THE PEOPLE not showing anger and picketing until this insanity is stopped?? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Fyatu wrote:2012 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:Even without the water cartels, water for every Nairobian would be a problem. The root cause of all Nairobi's problems is over crowding. The reason for the overcrowding is that Nairobi is the only place where there is serious economic opportunity for most Kenyans(or at least that is the perception) so everyone flocks huko causing big pressure on the local resources. We need to be serious with devolution, it is the key to solving a lot of Kenya's problems. Maybe a few visionary governors can develop several powerhouse counties that Kenyans can look for opportunities in I do not agree. The problem is cartels. This one you cannot even blame poor planning or unwillingness. Just like KPLC, Nairobi Water has it's engineers and experts to map out the city and provide the service. All the major cities in the world are growing with many growing faster than Nairobi so these are just excuses. Remember that the affluent Nairobians have dug their boreholes some as close as 10 meters apart so the real victim here is the middle class and we know the middle class in Kenya is also known as the coward class. If these cartels are well known, why is police not arresting. Why is Sonko not naming and shaming? Why are we THE PEOPLE not showing anger and picketing until this insanity is stopped?? @Fyatu, are you a Kenyan?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Cartels are like oil in a gearbox, they can be found everywhere oiling their way to the end but are parasitic. 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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2012 wrote:Fyatu wrote:2012 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:Even without the water cartels, water for every Nairobian would be a problem. The root cause of all Nairobi's problems is over crowding. The reason for the overcrowding is that Nairobi is the only place where there is serious economic opportunity for most Kenyans(or at least that is the perception) so everyone flocks huko causing big pressure on the local resources. We need to be serious with devolution, it is the key to solving a lot of Kenya's problems. Maybe a few visionary governors can develop several powerhouse counties that Kenyans can look for opportunities in I do not agree. The problem is cartels. This one you cannot even blame poor planning or unwillingness. Just like KPLC, Nairobi Water has it's engineers and experts to map out the city and provide the service. All the major cities in the world are growing with many growing faster than Nairobi so these are just excuses. Remember that the affluent Nairobians have dug their boreholes some as close as 10 meters apart so the real victim here is the middle class and we know the middle class in Kenya is also known as the coward class. If these cartels are well known, why is police not arresting. Why is Sonko not naming and shaming? Why are we THE PEOPLE not showing anger and picketing until this insanity is stopped?? @Fyatu, are you a Kenyan? Yes i am a son of soil. The hopelessness attitude by the Kenyans is what irks me. Kenyans should refuse these evils by street protests etc. For example, there should be public outrage (not on Twitter but in the streets) concerning #KNHRape saga. If it is true that rape has been going on at KNH i dont see a reason why people are not in jail...or angry Kenyans have not flushed these devils from where they hide and lynched them. Mugabe went home because Zimbabweans dropped their defeatist attitude and said enough is enough....it was so bad that the military had to intervene otherwise there would have been civil unrest. It is a high time Kenyans said enough is enough... Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The cartels hard at work.... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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hardwood wrote:The cartels hard at work.... Spoiling business, shindwe. Now we have to re-brand the tanker!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Step in the right directionSonko looks like the ultimate "Kusema na Kutenda" guy Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Lorry guy says he was taking the water to a car wash.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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hardwood wrote:Lorry guy says he was taking the water to a car wash. shida ni if you ask for clean water he will get you the clean water, but he will not disinfect, or thoroughly wash the tanker before doing that, lakini I know even for mjengo water they will get that from the rivers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Chida sasa is too much water.....and as usual ghenyans are helpless.  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Who will save the kenya water institute from water? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Interesting comment seen elsewhere. C&P. Quote:Investment in the huge tanks for trapping and storing this runoff water is no longer a luxury, it is essential. Imagine we have no running water in our taps. Water vendors are wading through this runoff, wet as a fish, only to deliver ten jerry cans of water for cooking. It is paradoxical!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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hardwood wrote:Who will save the kenya water institute from water? The Tano tena regime.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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