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Raila's Inauguration 12.12.2017
2012
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:33:57 AM
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Who else wants to bet that this won't happen?

Sadly another opportunity for NASA leaders to sacrifice their poor supporters to the police while they and their families watch from the comfort of their big cars, big homes and foreign lands. Revolutionaries "in deed".

BBI will solve it
:)
aemathenge
#2 Posted : Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:36:19 AM
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Much as I do not sympathize with this situation, I have this feeling that it is not about the leaders anymore but the followers.

These feelings are best exemplified below:

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Odinga has blown hot and cold, initially refusing to be sworn in by his supporters and later changing his mind.

Among many Kenyans, there is genuine fatigue with the economic disruption and the everyday inconveniences caused by the long stand-off.

At the same time, there is also a perceptible hardening, militancy even, among Odinga’s supporters.

He may be the figurehead, but more and more it feels like the opposition leader is just a passenger carried along on a wave of pent-up anger after a half a century of electoral injustice and marginalization.

It is this simmering rage and disaffection, rather than the more visible political scheming, that poses the greatest risk to the country.

While unlikely to explode into the open ethnic violence of 2008, at least in the short term, the resentment will continue to poison the political atmosphere and slowly strangle the nation.

And it is this that Kenyatta has consistently failed to acknowledge.


By Patrick Gathara, dated December 1, 2017 on the Washington Post

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mpobiz
#3 Posted : Sunday, December 03, 2017 1:00:29 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Much as I do not sympathize with this situation, I have this feeling that it is not about the leaders anymore but the followers.

These feelings are best exemplified below:

Copy and Paste Extract

Quote:
Odinga has blown hot and cold, initially refusing to be sworn in by his supporters and later changing his mind.

Among many Kenyans, there is genuine fatigue with the economic disruption and the everyday inconveniences caused by the long stand-off.

At the same time, there is also a perceptible hardening, militancy even, among Odinga’s supporters.

He may be the figurehead, but more and more it feels like the opposition leader is just a passenger carried along on a wave of pent-up anger after a half a century of electoral injustice and marginalization.

It is this simmering rage and disaffection, rather than the more visible political scheming, that poses the greatest risk to the country.

While unlikely to explode into the open ethnic violence of 2008, at least in the short term, the resentment will continue to poison the political atmosphere and slowly strangle the nation.

And it is this that Kenyatta has consistently failed to acknowledge.


By Patrick Gathara, dated December 1, 2017 on the Washington Post

Source Link:

This is a useless article. It's as if the jubilee wing doesn't have it's own militants who are ready to do any thing for their leadership. But the jubilee leaders are not ridding on their supporters wave. They are leading the way by showing what's right and whats wrong and adhering to the rule of law.
If it's a matter of every party to take out their bulls out for a bull fighting contest then naswa is in for a rude shock because they are seriously outmuscled even in that area
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
2012
#4 Posted : Sunday, December 03, 2017 1:52:19 PM
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With all these killings, the question I always ask myself before sympathising with the politicians is; Who is/will benefit the most from the PR to follow and who loses the most?

If you can honestly deduce and answer this then you'll start seeing the bigger picture here. It's the reason I hate our politics. Our politicians have mastered the art of using the poor as the stepping stones. You can easily tell the winning side is also using reverse psychology on us as well regarding these killings.

BBI will solve it
:)
harrydre
#5 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 4:31:29 AM
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Yet again unfortunately, people will die. Time police target the politicians themselves.
i.am.back!!!!
freiks
#6 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 6:44:51 AM
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i always wonder what is this animal called political marginalisation, if you cant fit to the bigger poipulation political picture why call it marginalisation? Politics is about numbers, period! If you dont have numbers you are doomed to continue being number 2 and there about
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2012
#7 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:18:06 PM
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freiks wrote:
i always wonder what is this animal called political marginalisation, if you cant fit to the bigger poipulation political picture why call it marginalisation? Politics is about numbers, period! If you dont have numbers you are doomed to continue being number 2 and there about


Very true. Politics is also about the person you elect to represent you or your region. If the person is weak to carry the hopes of the region then the whole region will feel 'marginalized' yet it's far from the truth.

BBI will solve it
:)
murchr
#8 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:57:26 PM
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Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Shak
#9 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 2:56:06 PM
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murchr wrote:
Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV

A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will Raila explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process?
Gathige
#10 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 3:20:42 PM
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Shak wrote:
murchr wrote:
Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV

A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will he explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process?



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