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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Who else wants to bet that this won't happen? Sadly another opportunity for NASA leaders to sacrifice their poor supporters to the police while they and their families watch from the comfort of their big cars, big homes and foreign lands. Revolutionaries "in deed".
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Much as I do not sympathize with this situation, I have this feeling that it is not about the leaders anymore but the followers. These feelings are best exemplified below: Copy and Paste ExtractQuote:Odinga has blown hot and cold, initially refusing to be sworn in by his supporters and later changing his mind.
Among many Kenyans, there is genuine fatigue with the economic disruption and the everyday inconveniences caused by the long stand-off.
At the same time, there is also a perceptible hardening, militancy even, among Odinga’s supporters.
He may be the figurehead, but more and more it feels like the opposition leader is just a passenger carried along on a wave of pent-up anger after a half a century of electoral injustice and marginalization.
It is this simmering rage and disaffection, rather than the more visible political scheming, that poses the greatest risk to the country.
While unlikely to explode into the open ethnic violence of 2008, at least in the short term, the resentment will continue to poison the political atmosphere and slowly strangle the nation.
And it is this that Kenyatta has consistently failed to acknowledge. By Patrick Gathara, dated December 1, 2017 on the Washington Post Source Link:
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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aemathenge wrote:Much as I do not sympathize with this situation, I have this feeling that it is not about the leaders anymore but the followers. These feelings are best exemplified below: Copy and Paste ExtractQuote:Odinga has blown hot and cold, initially refusing to be sworn in by his supporters and later changing his mind.
Among many Kenyans, there is genuine fatigue with the economic disruption and the everyday inconveniences caused by the long stand-off.
At the same time, there is also a perceptible hardening, militancy even, among Odinga’s supporters.
He may be the figurehead, but more and more it feels like the opposition leader is just a passenger carried along on a wave of pent-up anger after a half a century of electoral injustice and marginalization.
It is this simmering rage and disaffection, rather than the more visible political scheming, that poses the greatest risk to the country.
While unlikely to explode into the open ethnic violence of 2008, at least in the short term, the resentment will continue to poison the political atmosphere and slowly strangle the nation.
And it is this that Kenyatta has consistently failed to acknowledge. By Patrick Gathara, dated December 1, 2017 on the Washington Post Source Link: This is a useless article. It's as if the jubilee wing doesn't have it's own militants who are ready to do any thing for their leadership. But the jubilee leaders are not ridding on their supporters wave. They are leading the way by showing what's right and whats wrong and adhering to the rule of law. If it's a matter of every party to take out their bulls out for a bull fighting contest then naswa is in for a rude shock because they are seriously outmuscled even in that area Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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With all these killings, the question I always ask myself before sympathising with the politicians is; Who is/will benefit the most from the PR to follow and who loses the most? If you can honestly deduce and answer this then you'll start seeing the bigger picture here. It's the reason I hate our politics. Our politicians have mastered the art of using the poor as the stepping stones. You can easily tell the winning side is also using reverse psychology on us as well regarding these killings.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Yet again unfortunately, people will die. Time police target the politicians themselves. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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i always wonder what is this animal called political marginalisation, if you cant fit to the bigger poipulation political picture why call it marginalisation? Politics is about numbers, period! If you dont have numbers you are doomed to continue being number 2 and there about Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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freiks wrote:i always wonder what is this animal called political marginalisation, if you cant fit to the bigger poipulation political picture why call it marginalisation? Politics is about numbers, period! If you dont have numbers you are doomed to continue being number 2 and there about Very true. Politics is also about the person you elect to represent you or your region. If the person is weak to carry the hopes of the region then the whole region will feel 'marginalized' yet it's far from the truth.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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murchr wrote:Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will Raila explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will he explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process? Baba supporters are the people. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will he explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process? Kalonzo moved on zamani. He's already in 2022, he cannot get involved in losing circuses that will jeopardize his chances. Kenyans also moved on since baba failed to capitalize on the situation when it was still hot. I think he will be sworn in by the lakeside, it's probably the only region still on hold on elections hang-ups plus it offers a picturesque background.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Gathige wrote:Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Wiper party deputy leader, Farah Maalim distances himself from plans to swearing in Raila Odinga as President terming it "a recipe for chaos" #AMLiveNTV A president should also be sworn in along with his deputy. Now that Kalonzo will obviously not be present how will he explain to his supporters the validity of the whole process? Baba supporters are the people. usicheze na Article 1 of the constitution!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tomorrow article 1 of the constitution may be read to mean anything.... usicheze na 'the people' All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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masukuma wrote:tomorrow article 1 of the constitution may be read to mean anything.... usicheze na 'the people' A very sickening article 1 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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And they said they will pick a CJ or is it a judge from the amongst "The People" Now I used to think those stories of maji maji were historical tales....kumbe thy were true. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sad. Young man was killed while welcoming baba...Pole.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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It's #BondoExpress whether you swear or don't. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is how the cookie crumbles! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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On 12th we will see who the real Nasarites are and the fakes. That's the day NASA will realize that NASA died after the August 8th elections and constituents faded back to their original parties. They will be swearing in the ODM president on 12th. In Kenya from history, losing coalitions disintegrate immediately after the elections.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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murchr wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how the cookie crumbles!
Quite an about turn for Farah This fellow was the first person to threaten that they would swear in Raila, Ivory Coast style, if the election did not go their way. I wonder what changed? Ama alichapwa kofi ya tumbo? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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