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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Looks like the rumour of a Kenyatta-Moi dynasty could be true Uhuru went to meet baba wa taifa in Kabarak on the eve of supreme court ruling... There's a likelihood of us having a Project Gideon a la Project Uhuru of 2002 Could lead to lots of friction within Jubilee Interesting times
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Lolest! wrote:Looks like the rumour of a Kenyatta-Moi dynasty could be true
Uhuru went to meet baba wa taifa in Kabarak on the eve of supreme court ruling...
There's a likelihood of us having a Project Gideon a la Project Uhuru of 2002
Could lead to lots of friction within Jubilee
Interesting times He previously declared his support for the the DP unlike mo1 who dismissed his. In any case, it will fail. I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Man Giddy is a non starter.He has no ambition for the post.His only claim to fame is his Moi name. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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If Ouru tries that, Ruto will join tinga and that will be the end of jubilee ladies & gentlemen. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Bigchick wrote:Man Giddy is a non starter.He has no ambition for the post.His only claim to fame is his Moi name. I have heard that somewhere before...yeah..Gideon is a passing cloud Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kaka2za wrote:Bigchick wrote:Man Giddy is a non starter.He has no ambition for the post.His only claim to fame is his Moi name. I have heard that somewhere before...yeah..Gideon is a passing cloud Who thought UK will be president? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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harrydre wrote:If Ouru tries that, Ruto will join tinga and that will be the end of jubilee ladies & gentlemen. UMK is a gentleman, will support WSR in 2022 to the end!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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This was just a one off delegated role, bwana!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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Angelica _ann wrote:This was just a one off delegated role, bwana!!! That is how these things start. Goodwill is worth more than gold and this is how it is built. Relationships are everything. D.T. Moi has a bigger regional goodwill bank than any Kenyan president ever. If Gideon plays his cards well he can inherit it. "Bringing greetings from mzee" is enough to open many doors for him.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hehe... Giddi is too soft for this one. Hustler will run circles around the guy! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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masukuma wrote:hehe... Giddi is too soft for this one. Hustler will run circles around the guy! I think that will be his strength. Being underestimated, not being forceful. Such guys are good listeners. After 10 years in power Ruto will have a hard time claiming he is still a hustler. Gideon will be the underdog. As far as people are concerned Gideon is still safi kama pamba even if there has been mention of Mobitelea and Kroll report etc there are no local enemies who can say alinifanyia or alichukua shamba yangu. 20 years is also enough to shield him from his father's sins. The biggest elephant in the room will however be Mt. Kenya. Wasapere can laugh and dine with Ruto but he can never delude himself that they can trust him. I believe Gideon is more sellable in Mt. Kenya region than Ruto. I think the 2022 race will go into a runoff because nobody will win the 1st round. Mt. Kenya will not vote as a block in 2022. Alliances will have to be crafted going into the runoff and anything could happen. Meanwhile if Gideon gets into cabinet, Ruto had better watch out.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Kusadikika wrote:masukuma wrote:hehe... Giddi is too soft for this one. Hustler will run circles around the guy! I think that will be his strength. Being underestimated, not being forceful. Such guys are good listeners. After 10 years in power Ruto will have a hard time claiming he is still a hustler. Gideon will be the underdog. As far as people are concerned Gideon is still safi kama pamba even if there has been mention of Mobitelea and Kroll report etc there are no local enemies who can say alinifanyia or alichukua shamba yangu. 20 years is also enough to shield him from his father's sins. The biggest elephant in the room will however be Mt. Kenya. Wasapere can laugh and dine with Ruto but he can never delude himself that they can trust him. I believe Gideon is more sellable in Mt. Kenya region than Ruto. I think the 2022 race will go into a runoff because nobody will win the 1st round. Mt. Kenya will not vote as a block in 2022. Alliances will have to be crafted going into the runoff and anything could happen. Meanwhile if Gideon gets into cabinet, Ruto had better watch out. all this math will change if baba will be on the ballot. Mt. Kenya will vote against to the man! otherwise my prayer is the Mois, odinga's and Kenyattas just go away and we have a level playing field in 2022. i.am.back!!!!
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harrydre wrote:Kusadikika wrote:masukuma wrote:hehe... Giddi is too soft for this one. Hustler will run circles around the guy! I think that will be his strength. Being underestimated, not being forceful. Such guys are good listeners. After 10 years in power Ruto will have a hard time claiming he is still a hustler. Gideon will be the underdog. As far as people are concerned Gideon is still safi kama pamba even if there has been mention of Mobitelea and Kroll report etc there are no local enemies who can say alinifanyia or alichukua shamba yangu. 20 years is also enough to shield him from his father's sins. The biggest elephant in the room will however be Mt. Kenya. Wasapere can laugh and dine with Ruto but he can never delude himself that they can trust him. I believe Gideon is more sellable in Mt. Kenya region than Ruto. I think the 2022 race will go into a runoff because nobody will win the 1st round. Mt. Kenya will not vote as a block in 2022. Alliances will have to be crafted going into the runoff and anything could happen. Meanwhile if Gideon gets into cabinet, Ruto had better watch out. all this math will change if baba will be on the ballot. Mt. Kenya will vote against to the man! otherwise my prayer is the Mois, odinga's and Kenyattas just go away and we have a level playing field in 2022.
That leaves Ruto as a front runner.
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Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him. uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally. gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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innairobi wrote:Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.
uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.
gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. True. That's how he became Njamba. There are clips on him online either in Kikuyu/Wangige that brought out his element. Luck too was on his side being a Kenyatta. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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innairobi wrote:Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.
uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.
gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple.
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Buster wrote:innairobi wrote:Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.
uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.
gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple. I can see guys are joking with Ruto hapa wazua, our next President unless ....... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Buster wrote:innairobi wrote:Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.
uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.
gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple. I can see guys are joking with Ruto hapa wazua, our next President unless ....... Methinks RAO made Uhuru president but Ruto was needed to consolidate and affirm the vote. If RAO had supported MK in '08 and not antagonised Mlima people, he would have succeeded MK. I agree with the sentiment that UK and therefore Mlima (to a large extent) will not abandon Ruto with or without RAO. The only people who stood in his way were Kalonzo and Madvd who are about to finish their own political obituaries. ....but 5 yrs is a long time in siasa.
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Angelica _ann wrote:Buster wrote:innairobi wrote:Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.
uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.
gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice. He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple. I can see guys are joking with Ruto hapa wazua, our next President unless ....... In 2022 there will be only 3 names on the ballot. Looto, Baba and Dida. And okuyos will choose looto, because he was Ohuru's fiercest supporter and campaigner, rather than baba. Baba would be president today if he never fought kifaki. Looto learnt from babas mistake and played safe and thus will be your next president.
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