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Bigchick
#81 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:17:22 PM
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Please somebody tell me in a nutshell.What orders have been given by the Supreme Court.

On the elections,on it being conducted by IEBC,On people being pointed by NASWA,On Safron ,On Al Guraia.etc.
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#82 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:17:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


Yes sir.

Hearing them talk outside the court just makes you see just how much they know they lost in 12 hours. The ooomph is not there
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murchr
#83 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:24:32 PM
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marko wrote:
murchr wrote:
washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


Yes sir.

Hearing them talk outside the court just makes you see just how much they know they lost in 12 hours. The ooomph is not there


Orengo is still cheating Kenyans about servers. Why dont these reporters ever engage professionals?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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washiku
#84 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:27:25 PM
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murchr wrote:
washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


Yes sir.


Wondered why he had conveniently jumped that paragraph though. Wonder whether it was part of his initial ruling.
Amores
#85 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:28:20 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Please somebody tell me in a nutshell.What orders have been given by the Supreme Court.

On the elections,on it being conducted by IEBC,On people being pointed by NASWA,On Safron ,On Al Guraia.etc.


The first respondent to hold the elections within 60 days from 1st Sept

No evidence of bungling of elections by IEBC officials

Each party to meet own costs
I am happy
Shak
#86 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:47:30 PM
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I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?
murchr
#87 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:49:36 PM
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Shak wrote:
I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?


They had print outs, Njoki may have originals
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Angelica _ann
#88 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:50:34 PM
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murchr wrote:
Shak wrote:
I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?


They had print outs, Njoki may have originals


Also time factor d'oh!
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hardwood
#89 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:53:06 PM
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Shak wrote:
I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?


The kortibandia was biased....

Shak
#90 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:04:17 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Shak wrote:
I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?


They had print outs, Njoki may have originals


Also time factor d'oh!

They only had to peruse the documents already tabled by NASA as fake or forged. How long would that have taken?
Katibampya
#91 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:22:31 PM
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Am I the only one struggling to understand how anyone can defend an election where results were declared without over 11,000 Forms 34As, which account for about 3.5 million votes? An election where 3 days after the declaration of the results, IEBC's Chiloba admitted that they were still unable to produce form 34As? An election where the Court Registrar is now in possession of 41,541 form 34As, while in the IEBC data, there are 40,883 registered polling stations? An election where Muite himself could not explain in court why so many forms lacked security features and when questioned about Nyali in particular, just gave a shocking blubber? An election where IEBC, given the perfect opportunity to debunk the petitioner's claims by opening the servers, declined? Seriously? Am I the only one struggling to understand? As Jubilee once told Raila, this is not a banana republic. Cases are determined based on the evidence adduced in court. If there's anyone they should be mad at, it should be IEBC. The anger is being directed towards the wrong people.
murchr
#92 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:26:43 PM
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Shak wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Shak wrote:
I am very disappointed in the IEBC and Uhuru's lawyers. How difficult was it for them to peruse the documents like Njoki did and challenge NASA's evidence? Were they overconfident?


They had print outs, Njoki may have originals


Also time factor d'oh!


They only had to peruse the documents already tabled by NASA as fake or forged. How long would that have taken?


But wao! that was a job well done. Any petition coming after this will be thoroughly scrutinized. Because there will be one. Ata zile za machinani, some lawyers have now taken points and notes.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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safariant
#93 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:27:15 PM
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Next target

JSC to question Njoki Ndung’u in gross misconduct case with JB Ojwang
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safariant
#94 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:31:44 PM
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Katibampya wrote:
COPY/PASTE
Am I the only one struggling to understand how anyone can defend an election where results were declared without over 11,000 Forms 34As, which account for about 3.5 million votes? An election where 3 days after the declaration of the results, IEBC's Chiloba admitted that they were still unable to produce form 34As? An election where the Court Registrar is now in possession of 41,541 form 34As, while in the IEBC data, there are 40,883 registered polling stations? An election where Muite himself could not explain in court why so many forms lacked security features and when questioned about Nyali in particular, just gave a shocking blubber? An election where IEBC, given the perfect opportunity to debunk the petitioner's claims by opening the servers, declined? Seriously? Am I the only one struggling to understand? As Jubilee once told Raila, this is not a banana republic. Cases are determined based on the evidence adduced in court. If there's anyone they should be mad at, it should be IEBC. The anger is being directed towards the wrong people.


Table your verifiable evidence. Stop going round in generalities.
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ngapat
#95 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:44:17 PM
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washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


How can they claim there were illigalities and that they they found no one culpable of any crime. Contradiction
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hardwood
#96 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:48:39 PM
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ngapat wrote:
washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


How can they claim there were illigalities and that they they found no one culpable of any crime. Contradiction


The 3 guys who were fired -Muhati, Wamae and Mugo should get their jobs back ASAP. The supreme court has spoken and said they are safi kama pamba.
muandiwambeu
#97 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:49:00 AM
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hardwood wrote:
ngapat wrote:
washiku wrote:
So as they conduct a new one, IEBC will hang on this:

THERE was no evidence adduced in court to find any criminal culpability on any Commissioner or staff of the IEBC....

This being the highest court, does it shut NASA's intentions to have some people out plus take them to jail?


How can they claim there were illigalities and that they they found no one culpable of any crime. Contradiction


The 3 guys who were fired -Muhati, Wamae and Mugo should get their jobs back ASAP. The supreme court has spoken and said they are safi kama pamba.

Hii story ya tumbili na nyani mwisho ni tarehe kumi na saba. Agents, observers, etc wa wekwe ndani ya kiems. Ukitoka polling station you signout. If u do not nakuharibike bahatibaya. Ukirigiwa ukiwa ndani kimbia police station. Hiyo ingine ni nyefinyefi ya tumbili tupu
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
mpobiz
#98 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:59:27 AM
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We were having a discussion on how maybe the nullified presidential polls have maybe increased investor confidence because of the checks and balances that are displayed by our constitution. But today I think it's vice versa because now investors also can see the supreme court is rogue and is under the control of unseen forces or individuals and nobody is safe.you can loose your investment because of small technicalities and processes.
We are all doomed.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
ngapat
#99 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:57:55 AM
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The SC committed an illigality. They ordered the scrutiny of forms on uncertified copies and made a ruling based on a report of the uncertified copies without reference to the original certified copies
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Angelica _ann
#100 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:34:45 AM
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I hear with Prof. Ojwang's polished English, many Jubilee supporters are still confused whether he was with them or not....
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