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Round 2 is time to finish off baba politically
sparkly
#501 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 5:49:26 AM
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Shak wrote:
Amores wrote:
Maybe Chiloba should resign to save this country country from these geezers - let's see what will be the next excuse for bringing the economy to its knees.

And the former premier wonders why he never wins elections.....

He shouldn't resign. These guys are bullies and their demands are endless. Obviously they're not happy that Kenyans have been peaceful so this is the start of their plan to create anarchy


Mass action on Tusday to eject Chiloba.
They said they want teargas and bullets.

Sadly Baba is not ashamed to use his supporters as cannon fodder.

Kalooser, mdvd and billboard are shouting mass action but no Kambas or Luhyias will join the mass action calls. Kambas are not stone throwers and Luhyias will not eject their own.

It is very unfotunate that Luo blood will be shed on Tuesday.
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point
#502 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 6:40:19 AM
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The government has given the opposition too much leeway.Chilobae should not resign. Kwani Raila ni nani? in fact, we can swear in the President tomorrow and instead of spending 10b on an unnecessary election, we spend less than 10m on teargas.
Amores
#503 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 7:23:10 AM
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point wrote:
The government has given the opposition too much leeway.Chilobae should not resign. Kwani Raila ni nani? in fact, we can swear in the President tomorrow and instead of spending 10b on an unnecessary election, we spend less than 10m on teargas.

Can you imagine the destruction of property which will take place from tomorrow?
Of course they don't want an election,otherwise,they would not be making unrealistic demands. It is also interesting that right after the supreme court judgement ,they started talking about a constitutional crisis if elections are not held within 60 days. All these shenanigans by ODM are about making sure that elections do not take place.
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limanika
#504 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 7:47:34 AM
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Amores wrote:
point wrote:
The government has given the opposition too much leeway.Chilobae should not resign. Kwani Raila ni nani? in fact, we can swear in the President tomorrow and instead of spending 10b on an unnecessary election, we spend less than 10m on teargas.

Can you imagine the destruction of property which will take place from tomorrow?
Of course they don't want an election,otherwise,they would not be making unrealistic demands. It is also interesting that right after the supreme court judgement ,they started talking about a constitutional crisis if elections are not held within 60 days. All these shenanigans by ODM are about making sure that elections do not take place.


Govt should provide security so NASA can picket peacefully every day if they so wish. Sometimes, Aliar thinks we are in 2016 (when he kicked out IEBC), other times he thinks we are in 2007/2008 when he forced a coalition govt. Since we only have about 5 or so weeks to election, we can do with 5 weekly protests, unlike 2016 when aliar could go on with demos for ever so govt was forced to concede. But we also know he wants a new secretariat in place not for any good reasons but so that they can bungle the elections due to inexperience, and then have elections voided by SC again. We should not fall for his trick.

What we know is that IEBC MUST conduct an election within 60days since this is a court order. If they dont they go to jail, period. All we need (1) IEBC to ensure they go through the SC ruling with a tooth comb and ensure all loopholes that caused the nullification are sealed. (2) Parliament to re-work the election laws to eliminate electronic transmission of results (aliar will for ever claim there was hacking and servers should be opened if we use electronic transmission). 3) JP should start campaigns full throttle. As aliar demonstrates in Nairobi, highly powered JP delegations should be campaigning in his strong holds esp western, coast and ukambani.

Shak
#505 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 8:23:39 AM
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limanika wrote:
Amores wrote:
point wrote:
The government has given the opposition too much leeway.Chilobae should not resign. Kwani Raila ni nani? in fact, we can swear in the President tomorrow and instead of spending 10b on an unnecessary election, we spend less than 10m on teargas.

Can you imagine the destruction of property which will take place from tomorrow?
Of course they don't want an election,otherwise,they would not be making unrealistic demands. It is also interesting that right after the supreme court judgement ,they started talking about a constitutional crisis if elections are not held within 60 days. All these shenanigans by ODM are about making sure that elections do not take place.


Govt should provide security so NASA can picket peacefully every day if they so wish. Sometimes, Aliar thinks we are in 2016 (when he kicked out IEBC), other times he thinks we are in 2007/2008 when he forced a coalition govt. Since we only have about 5 or so weeks to election, we can do with 5 weekly protests, unlike 2016 when aliar could go on with demos for ever so govt was forced to concede. But we also know he wants a new secretariat in place not for any good reasons but so that they can bungle the elections due to inexperience, and then have elections voided by SC again. We should not fall for his trick.

What we know is that IEBC MUST conduct an election within 60days since this is a court order. If they dont they go to jail, period. All we need (1) IEBC to ensure they go through the SC ruling with a tooth comb and ensure all loopholes that caused the nullification are sealed. (2) Parliament to re-work the election laws to eliminate electronic transmission of results (aliar will for ever claim there was hacking and servers should be opened if we use electronic transmission). 3) JP should start campaigns full throttle. As aliar demonstrates in Nairobi, highly powered JP delegations should be campaigning in his strong holds esp western, coast and ukambani.


Also this time they should seal all access roads leading to anniversary towers. Let them contain demonstrations to the outskirts of town
Much Know
#506 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:14 AM
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Let them go make noise, it should remind the "short memory" public about Isaac hassan team and many other Innocent young educated gentlemen and women who have lost their jobs due to raira mouth of lies, and replaced by tribal goons who don't know what a server or email is yet earn millions per month arranging tenders as young jobless Kenyans suffer, watch what makes your shares useless as you spend ages yapping about fiscal policy in blue section, a wage bill loaded with illiterate tribal goons, the youth are watching, they have experienced this ujinga in, work, school, life and it affects them, they are now burning schools when they see raira burning stuff out there, spotlight will be on them soon, let's just count the ballots, kwisha!
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Much Know
#507 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 8:57:05 AM
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The stupid Judges should have just walked into any of the small cyber cafes in town in private time for a neutral lesson on servers, some semi-idler youth would have explained to them up to issues of encryption and other server side operations e.t.c which they surely have no idea about, they are somewhat " illiterate " in today's world and not LEARNED, but very illiterate judges.
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Much Know
#508 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:03:12 AM
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Its maraga to pay for any chaos and damage caused by naswa tomorrow, it's all on his head. Let's see if he will call them savages.
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Shak
#509 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:10:33 AM
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Much Know
#510 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:14:25 AM
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Shak wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/25/railas-secret-weapon-to-stop-repeat-election_c1641147

This is their plan.

And maraga has warned jubilee that he will nullify their win again, he will agree.
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Shak
#511 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:16:24 AM
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Much Know wrote:
Shak wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/25/railas-secret-weapon-to-stop-repeat-election_c1641147

This is their plan.

And maraga has warned jubilee that he will nullify their win again, he will agree.

The same constitution in the bill of rights gives people the right to vote. If they block the IEBC from conducting elections in their strongholds it will be argued that they denied people their constitutional right and not only can it not be used to annul an election but it also constitutes an offence
Much Know
#512 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:19:18 AM
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Shak wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Shak wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/25/railas-secret-weapon-to-stop-repeat-election_c1641147

This is their plan.

And maraga has warned jubilee that he will nullify their win again, he will agree.

The same constitution in the billnof rights gives people the right to vote. If they block the IEBC from conducting elections in their strongholds it will be argued that they denied people their constitutional right and that this is an offence

All the blonde mwilu judge knows is wako, hayo mengine ni yenu!
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harrydre
#513 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:20:18 AM
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Shak wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/25/railas-secret-weapon-to-stop-repeat-election_c1641147

This is their plan.



If they instruct their goons to bar voters from voting in some areas of his native Luo Nyanza political base, then automatically he will be disqualified for committing serious electoral offenses.
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Shak
#514 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:29:22 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Shak wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/25/railas-secret-weapon-to-stop-repeat-election_c1641147

This is their plan.



If they instruct their goons to bar voters from voting in some areas of his native Luo Nyanza political base, then automatically he will be disqualified for committing serious electoral offenses.

Exactly! Section 65 of the Elections Act is very clear:

65. Use of force or violence during election period A person who, directly or indirectly in person or by any other person on his behalf, inflicts or threatens to inflict injury, damage, harm or loss on or against a person— (a) so as to induce or compel that person to support a particular candidate or political party; (b) on account of such person having voted or refrained from voting; or (c) in order to induce or compel that person to vote in a particular way or refrain from voting, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding one million shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.
Njung'e
#515 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 11:01:12 AM
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Let's brace ourselves for bad days ahead. Raila's call to protest, in my view , is a call to violence. I won't be surprised if it turns out exactly like that.
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#516 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 12:27:15 PM
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When will baba start his campaigns?

Angelica _ann
#517 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 12:42:38 PM
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Interesting and sad at the same time Sad
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KulaRaha
#518 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 1:08:28 PM
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From past experience, Chiloba is dead man walking. He will be gone.
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murchr
#519 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 1:26:24 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
From past experience, Chiloba is dead man walking. He will be gone.


But why should this man dictate terms all the time? SCOK found no one liable
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KulaRaha
#520 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 1:36:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
From past experience, Chiloba is dead man walking. He will be gone.


But why should this man dictate terms all the time? SCOK found no one liable


Me is simple man, with simple thoughts:

NASA thinking: Chiloba works at Jubilee's beck and call. He can't be trusted.

JUBILEE thinking: We won but Chiloba screwed up our victory by not following process. He can't be trusted.

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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