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CIC FY16
murchr
#1 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 5:36:15 PM
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Full results link https://view.publitas.co...year-ended-31-dec-2016/

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Metasploit
#2 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 5:38:38 PM
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It had to be announced on a Friday afternoon

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
murchr
#3 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 5:56:37 PM
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1.14B to 188Million terrible
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#4 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 6:01:55 PM
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murchr wrote:
1.14B to 188Million terrible

Very poor. ..hata kama equities are depressed but when they will be announcing 1000% profit rise it will be like a dream
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
actuarywahisa
#5 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 6:22:07 PM
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This is some lovely stuff! Wow!
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Ebenyo
#6 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 7:12:46 PM
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dvds?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#7 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 8:46:48 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
dvds?


sh.0.105 per share
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Chaka
#8 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 9:06:09 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
dvds?


sh.0.105 per share

To teach these people a lesson,ten cents should be outlawed..minimum legal tender should be 50 cents..
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 9:30:45 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
dvds?


sh.0.105 per share

10.5 cents? Why even offer the extra 0.5 cents?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#10 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 9:49:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
dvds?


sh.0.105 per share

10.5 cents? Why even offer the extra 0.5 cents?

0.5 cents is a PPT trick coz it reflects a divided growth of 5%.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Horton
#11 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 10:18:41 PM
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PE of 53! Loss teritory next year?
mlennyma
#12 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 10:23:15 PM
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Horton wrote:
PE of 53! Loss teritory next year?

No,cic will make more than 300% profit. let's compare notes then
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
muandiwambeu
#13 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 10:47:29 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
murchr wrote:
1.14B to 188Million terrible

Very poor. ..hata kama equities are depressed but when they will be announcing 1000% profit rise it will be like a dream

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , eti CIC wamevunja record ya wanjiku kuchomeka. Waaaah.CIC doing pata potea hapa NSE. Hii CIC is worse than @ obiero single handedly running kq @the showSad . Wanjiku alichanuliwa kitambo, xaxa ni wakati wa masonko na makoporates kuchanuka.smile game shot! This co is 99.99999....9% into gambling like bizina. Weeeee, kanyumirie teketeke kitambo ilale!
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Spikes
#14 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 10:55:10 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
murchr wrote:
1.14B to 188Million terrible

Very poor. ..hata kama equities are depressed but when they will be announcing 1000% profit rise it will be like a dream

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , eti CIC wamevunja record ya wanjiku kuchomeka. Waaaah.CIC doing pata potea hapa NSE. Hii CIC is worse than @ obiero single handedly running kq @the showSad . Wanjiku alichanuliwa kitambo, xaxa ni wakati wa masonko na makoporates kuchanuka.smile game shot! This co is 99.99999....9% into gambling like bizina. Weeeee, kanyumirie teketeke kitambo ilale!

Applause Applause Applause
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
hisah
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:52:00 AM
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This will spook the few wanjikus left which then presents a hunting ground for trades for TA fans. Monday open will likely gap down below 3 bob handle. In future those gaps will be targets on the way up.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ericsson
#16 Posted : Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:31:08 AM
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hisah wrote:
This will spook the few wanjikus left which then presents a hunting ground for trades for TA fans. Monday open will likely gap down below 3 bob handle. In future those gaps will be targets on the way up.


Clean up and transparency ongoing.
Reasons for the decline in profits have been clearly explained in the notes below the financial statements for TA fans
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e295
#17 Posted : Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:16:41 AM
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What is TA? Please no insults
winmak
#18 Posted : Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:35:16 PM
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e295 wrote:
What is TA? Please no insults


Technical analysis
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
e295
#19 Posted : Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:15:26 PM
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winmak wrote:
e295 wrote:
What is TA? Please no insults


Technical analysis

Thanks. Now I know
Ericsson
#20 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 1:52:56 AM
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Reasons given for the decline in profits;
--Depressed NSE prices in the NSE resulting in unrealised losses of sh.143mn
--Change in reserving methodology by IRA which increased Life Business reserves by sh.704mn
--Aggressive provisioning of debtors in General Insurance business resulting in additional ksh.326mn provisioning
--Loss of sh.297.5mn following the hyper inflation reporting in SS as a result of SSP devaluation
--Loss of ksh.89mn following uncharacteristic school fires in 2016
The above justifications are valid and I find their reporting transparent compared to the ones of Sanlam where there was cooking.

@mlennyama
I agree with you 2017 results they will report more than 300% growth
The company says it will prioritise profitable insurance business ahead of market share growth going forward.
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