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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
gk
#521 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:19:59 AM
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freiks wrote:
newfarer wrote:
this is madness

http://www.businessdaily...254-14u591rz/index.html

would like to hear how both Uhuru and rao will work towards reducing the national debt now that we are in it


This debt is below the 50% mark or there about of our GDP. You should start worrying when it gets to above 60%


Almost all the member countries of OECD have debt to GDP ratios above 80% with Japan topping a massive 250%, US 105%, Germany 82%. Even China is about 70% in the red.
ZZE123
#522 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:23:29 AM
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gk wrote:
freiks wrote:
newfarer wrote:
this is madness

http://www.businessdaily...254-14u591rz/index.html

would like to hear how both Uhuru and rao will work towards reducing the national debt now that we are in it


This debt is below the 50% mark or there about of our GDP. You should start worrying when it gets to above 60%


Almost all the member countries of OECD have debt to GDP ratios above 80% with Japan topping a massive 250%, US 105%, Germany 82%. Even China is about 70% in the red.

Who is the lender if all the big boys have debt?d'oh! d'oh!
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#523 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:35:17 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
gk wrote:
freiks wrote:
newfarer wrote:
this is madness

http://www.businessdaily...254-14u591rz/index.html

would like to hear how both Uhuru and rao will work towards reducing the national debt now that we are in it


This debt is below the 50% mark or there about of our GDP. You should start worrying when it gets to above 60%


Almost all the member countries of OECD have debt to GDP ratios above 80% with Japan topping a massive 250%, US 105%, Germany 82%. Even China is about 70% in the red.

Who is the lender if all the big boys have debt?d'oh! d'oh!

Thin air is the best lender, in peaceful knowledge based economies like US kitu 60% knowledge based, Japan 75% Knowledge based e.t.c can borrow from thin air very well, for poorer countries knowledge wise that are cash dependent, resource dependent like Kenya, Greece, e.t.c to repay, problems can arise, but overall Kenyas debts is way tooo small to worry about.
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Bigchick
#524 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:38:40 AM
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I like this debate.Very enlightening.I look and sound very sharp in the evenning when having tea or on weekends at Kamakis

Meanwhile what is the ideal debt size.In business I know 60% to 70% is tolerable.
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Much Know
#525 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:21:04 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
I like this debate.Very enlightening.I look and sound very sharp in the evenning when having tea or on weekends at Kamakis

Meanwhile what is the ideal debt size.In business I know 60% to 70% is tolerable.

These is highly variable and is defined in financial mechanics as leverage, which in turn depends on the "moments of turn" around the fulcrum (center), or objective, or what the famous Stanford Prof. in Business Jim Collins calls your "hedgehog concept" i.e what kind of load are you trying to lift and have you taken the correct measurements, that's how the facebook guy came from a campus jamaa to a leading "billionaire".

In Kenya of course you will not find such sophistication in the financial sector, they want a bloti title deed, or log book, at a very high interest rate, more or less the same things a loan shark will ask for, but J.P Morgan bank which is historically an entrepreneurial, actually the first "knowledge bankers" have opened an office in Nairobi na kama una knowledge worth billions, try them.
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madollar
#526 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:02:19 PM
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IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote
Bigchick
#527 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:20:07 PM
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madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.
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Iganamagana
#528 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:06:43 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.


Have you factored in the 1% NASWA will loose courtesy of the Rent harmonization and other foot in the mouth utterances. You can bank on the NASWA brigade to put their feet where their mouths are.
FRM2011
#529 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:31:21 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.


IPSOS, March 2017.
Kabogo - 53%
Waititu - 39%

That is all we have to say for now.
Liv
#530 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:49:35 PM
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madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



This adds up to 98%. Where is the 2% balance?

IPSOS is known to favour Raila..... the difference between Uhuru and Raila is much bigger than 5%.
Iganamagana
#531 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:01:43 PM
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Liv wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



This adds up to 98%. Where is the 2% balance?

IPSOS is known to favour Raila..... the difference between Uhuru and Raila is much bigger than 5%.


Si ni ya wale wengine? Kina Nyaga, Dida and that arrogant Prof Wainaina with a silly temper.
Flo-ology
#532 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:20:51 PM
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Iganamagana wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.


Have you factored in the 1% NASWA will loose courtesy of the Rent harmonization and other foot in the mouth utterances. You can bank on the NASWA brigade to put their feet where their mouths are.


Did you watch mudavadi interview on KTN? He said they have clear plan on rent reduction; scrap taxes on rent and build more rentals. Does this make sense to you?
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washiku
#533 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:23:59 PM
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washiku
#534 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:27:27 PM
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@FRM11, Now that you get mesmerized by crowds, what do these ones mean?












Gathige
#535 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:46:56 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.


Have you factored in the 1% NASWA will loose courtesy of the Rent harmonization and other foot in the mouth utterances. You can bank on the NASWA brigade to put their feet where their mouths are.


Did you watch mudavadi interview on KTN? He said they have clear plan on rent reduction; scrap taxes on rent and build more rentals. Does this make sense to you?


When Baba was on Citizen sometime ago, he said they will use the Kibra experience to control rents elsewhere. I can see those Yaya Towers apartments rent being fixed to kindu 10k!
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kingfisher
#536 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:55:31 PM
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Where are the IEBC number we start crunching them in earnest?
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madollar
#537 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:10:12 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
Where are the IEBC number we start crunching them in earnest?

Huko kwingine ni turnout huku ndio Kuna maneno .Who has the edge
IEBC Registered Voters
Nairobi
2,304,386
Kajiado
409,266
Narok
347,427
Trans Nzoia
339,832
Turkana
188,617
Mandera
168,478
Garissa
132,486
Wajir
155,916
Marsabit
143,541
Samburu
79,477
Isiolo
72,548
kingfisher
#538 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:37:29 PM
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madollar wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Where are the IEBC number we start crunching them in earnest?

Huko kwingine ni turnout huku ndio Kuna maneno .Who has the edge
IEBC Registered Voters
Nairobi
2,304,386
Kajiado
409,266
Narok
347,427
Trans Nzoia
339,832
Turkana
188,617
Mandera
168,478
Garissa
132,486
Wajir
155,916
Marsabit
143,541
Samburu
79,477
Isiolo
72,548


weka yote hapa. Unaogopa nani???
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
Bigchick
#539 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:42:58 PM
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washiku wrote:
@FRM11, Now that you get mesmerized by crowds, what do these ones mean?















This mammoth has shocked even Joshua.Am waiting to hear his comments.
Meanwhile what is going through Kideros mind?As for PK he should just withdraw from the race.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
madollar
#540 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:29:14 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
madollar wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Where are the IEBC number we start crunching them in earnest?

Huko kwingine ni turnout huku ndio Kuna maneno .Who has the edge
IEBC Registered Voters
Nairobi
2,304,386
Kajiado
409,266
Narok
347,427
Trans Nzoia
339,832
Turkana
188,617
Mandera
168,478
Garissa
132,486
Wajir
155,916
Marsabit
143,541
Samburu
79,477
Isiolo
72,548


weka yote hapa. Unaogopa nani???

Hiyo post itakuwa mrefu sana
Should be Raila 42% =7,900,000 Uhuru 47%=8,930,000 Undecided 8%=1,500,000 as per that opinion poll

Kiambu
1,173,593
Nakuru
948,668
Meru
712,378
Murang’a
590,775
Nyeri
460,806
Uasin Gishu
451,485
Kericho
379,815
Kirinyaga
351,162
Nandi
349,340
Nyandaua
336,322
Bomet
325,606
Embu
315,668
Laikipia
239,497
Baringo
227,918
Tharaka Nithi
216,522
West Pokot
178,989
E Marakwet
178,975
Kisii
544,753
Nyamira
279,685
Kakamega
746,877
Machakos
627,168
Mombasa
596,485
Bungoma
559,897
Kisumu
548,868
Kilifi
510,484
Kitui
477,655
Homa Bay
476,150
Siaya
447,745
Makueni
421,180
Migori
388,967
Busia
347,911
Kwale
282,436
Vihiga
267,481
Taita Taveta
155,904
Tana River
118,189
Lamu
70,224
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