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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
Gathige
#2341 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:27:16 PM
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2012 wrote:
Baba is up to something sinister. I wonder what it is...



Maybe be to disrupt elections on the 26th even though he has declared he will not contest, whatever that means, now that his name is in the ballot.

Let wait to hear him tomorow in Msa
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murchr
#2342 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:41:57 PM
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Am noticing Orengo is holding pressers with ODM (mostly Luo) MPs. Where are Kaloozers people? Did they all go with him to the states?
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innairobi
#2343 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:42:50 PM
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RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
2012
#2344 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:27:33 PM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
Baba is up to something sinister. I wonder what it is...



Maybe be to disrupt elections on the 26th even though he has declared he will not contest, whatever that means, now that his name is in the ballot.

Let wait to hear him tomorow in Msa


According to UhuRuto and we know they are very well informed from all the intelligence they get, Raila went to UK to get our former colonizers to intervene and push for an 'all inclusive government' yaani a nusu mkate to save Kenya.

BBI will solve it
:)
gk
#2345 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:42:33 PM
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2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
Baba is up to something sinister. I wonder what it is...



Maybe be to disrupt elections on the 26th even though he has declared he will not contest, whatever that means, now that his name is in the ballot.

Let wait to hear him tomorow in Msa


According to UhuRuto and we know they are very well informed from all the intelligence they get, Raila went to UK to get our former colonizers to intervene and push for an 'all inclusive government' yaani a nusu mkate to save Kenya.


There's a fairly credible whatsapp message in circulation connecting the dots. Malloch Brown (one of the guys RAO was photographed with in UK) is the owner of Smartmatic, the company that lost IEBC job to OT Morpho.
Malloc was a former deputy to Kofi Annan,he who we now learn pulled all strings to stop UhuRuto presidency.
Malloch has also served at George Soros' Open Society whose funding for anti establishment NGOs is an open secret.

limanika
#2346 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 10:01:34 PM
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innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic
Baratang
#2347 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 10:13:54 PM
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gk wrote:
2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
Baba is up to something sinister. I wonder what it is...



Maybe be to disrupt elections on the 26th even though he has declared he will not contest, whatever that means, now that his name is in the ballot.

Let wait to hear him tomorow in Msa


According to UhuRuto and we know they are very well informed from all the intelligence they get, Raila went to UK to get our former colonizers to intervene and push for an 'all inclusive government' yaani a nusu mkate to save Kenya.


There's a fairly credible whatsapp message in circulation connecting the dots. Malloch Brown (one of the guys RAO was photographed with in UK) is the owner of Smartmatic, the company that lost IEBC job to OT Morpho.
Malloc was a former deputy to Kofi Annan,he who we now learn pulled all strings to stop UhuRuto presidency.
Malloch has also served at George Soros' Open Society whose funding for anti establishment NGOs is an open secret.



Exactly. And while still there, he made an appeal to the international community to intervene in the Kenya's current political situation. 2007 process playing out again, but this time round it is demonstrating criminals against the police not citizens against citizens....more serious, Raila is running away from elections that the Supreme court ordered. I bet even the internationa community don't quite understand what is there in Kenya to intervene, the Nasa demonstrations and the subsequent battles with police or the non-existent physical conflict between Nasa and Jubilee.
Baratang
#2348 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 10:39:16 PM
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smile smile The lady must be wondering whom to go for in such a case..
innairobi
#2349 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:34:45 PM
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limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
harrydre
#2350 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:10:44 AM
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Let's see how the day goes. With no demos in ukambani, MaDvd 's stronghold and now looks like Mombasa, babu kwisa!
i.am.back!!!!
limanika
#2351 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 6:34:08 AM
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innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.
2012
#2352 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:26:26 AM
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limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.



Let them attempt to disrupt elections on the day. They will be committing an election offence with a min sentence of 5 years.

BBI will solve it
:)
limanika
#2353 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:52:29 AM
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murchr wrote:
Am noticing Orengo is holding pressers with ODM (mostly Luo) MPs. Where are Kaloozers people? Did they all go with him to the states?

It is because they do not now understand aliars plan/strategy and it becomes taxing always being a flower girl coz that's what these pressers are- you are supposed to attend yet you do not even know what is in the statement or the core strategy- indeed you can recall kalooser saying on national tv he would try to talk to agwambo to accept to participate in the election?

I hope someone can explain to kamba and mulembe nation, in a language they can understand, that 'no election' campaign by Agwambo and Luo nyanza is actually meant to void any 2017 pre-election MOUs (since 8/8 election was nullified) and thus make sure Rao is on ballot in 2022.

A classic case of 'Asante ya punda ni mateke'.
Shak
#2354 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:06:46 AM
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2012 wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.



Let them attempt to disrupt elections on the day. They will be committing an election offence with a min sentence of 5 years.

I'm reading that presiding and returning officers from nyanza and parts of western are being threatened that should they participate in the elections their homes will be burnt down
limanika
#2355 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:16:02 AM
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Shak wrote:
2012 wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.



Let them attempt to disrupt elections on the day. They will be committing an election offence with a min sentence of 5 years.

I'm reading that presiding and returning officers from nyanza and parts of western are being threatened that should they participate in the elections their homes will be burnt down

IEBC could postpone elections in such hot spots...
Bigchick
#2356 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:42:47 AM
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Shak wrote:
2012 wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.



Let them attempt to disrupt elections on the day. They will be committing an election offence with a min sentence of 5 years.

I'm reading that presiding and returning officers from nyanza and parts of western are being threatened that should they participate in the elections their homes will be burnt down


Can Maraga guide on this now that they have made it clear what their intentions are?

But can we trust Maraga?From this weeks 5th Estate he went to Lithuania after the coup judgement to meet George Soros for further guidance.Are we as a country helpless in the hands of Maraga?Can we disobey his orders now that he looks partisan?
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limanika
#2357 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 10:01:02 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
2012 wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
innairobi wrote:
RAO ni kama ako na four options:

1. Push for daily protests in the hope rising death toll will draw international negotiators that will push for a caretaker government
2. Disrupt the elections then go to court to invalidate it and push for a caretaker government
3. Declare independence of NASA strongholds, arm his supporters and spark civil war
4. Walk away

The worst case is civil war but that will be very hard for him to sustain beyond a couple of weeks.

Today, on national TV, we heard NASA MPs 'declare' they will disrupt elections. If they will go scot free after making such treasonous statements, then Kenya is a banana republic


arrest is actually what they want. will fire up lukewarm supporters, attract international sympathy as martyrs and force dialogue. allowing them to run free and dealing with them during demos is smarter. violent demos are in 5-10% of the country. wont change much as we head to polls so no need to escalate it.

I didn't mean they be arrested. But should be made to record statements, they also be investigated whether fit to hold public office, etc. etc.



Let them attempt to disrupt elections on the day. They will be committing an election offence with a min sentence of 5 years.

I'm reading that presiding and returning officers from nyanza and parts of western are being threatened that should they participate in the elections their homes will be burnt down


Can Maraga guide on this now that they have made it clear what their intentions are?

But can we trust Maraga?From this weeks 5th Estate he went to Lithuania after the coup judgement to meet George Soros for further guidance.Are we as a country helpless in the hands of Maraga?Can we disobey his orders now that he looks partisan?

Let's see how this plays out next one week...i suspect only luo nyanza will keep to the 'no election' madness. Coz it is in the interest of Kalonzo, Madvd and joho that a credible election is held. Otherwise they should forget the ticket in 2022. There is a trap agwambo has laid for them, and he wants them to be the cheer leaders when he shouts 'no elections'
kenmac
#2358 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 11:55:16 AM
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Exposed: Today, we bring you inside info of what Raila really went to do in London. Forget about the so called Lecture at Chatham House. Raila went to meet his masters, and report the status of the Coup. WE also bring you the intricate details that connect top Judiciary, IEBC and Civil Society names to the latest stage in the Coup Plot
We also explain why Raila wants OT Morpho and Safaricom out of the way.
Take a look at the Photo Raila posted on his official Twitter Handle. he met Former UN number Two Lord Malloch Brown.
The name Malloch Brown doesn't ring a bell in many Kenyans...but he is the person funding Raila, and the key force behind the Judiciary, IEBC and Civil Society planners of the current artificial instability
Who is Lord Malloch? We will go step by step
1)Malloch is employed by George Soros, the global guru in Coups. Malloch basically runs all the activities of Soros.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Malloch_Bro
wn,_Baron_Malloch-Brown#Association_with_George_Soros
In effect, Malloch is the person that gives money to the NGOs that Fund the Judiciary and the Evil Society .
2) Malloch owns the company that lost to OT Morpho in the bid to run the electronic transmission of the elections. Raila kicked out Hassan team from IEBC after they refused to play ball with Malloch's company Smartmatic. http://www.smartmatic.co...ord-mark-malloch-brown/ .
After the Commissioners were kicked out, they approached Chiloba- who was then running the IEBC....Chiloba refused to play ball and declined the offer to kick out OT Morpho and replace them with Smartmatic You can read more details in this story written by John Kamau in the Sunday Nation http://
www.nation.co.ke/oped/op...-xhtml-cbxh9f/index.html
"When the IEBC advertised for delivery of voter identification devices, a company known as Smartmatic International tendered to supply the gadgets."
Insiders say that Smarmatic tried getting into a partnership with Safaricom, in a bid to make it have a strong case....Safaricom declined.
Now, you get why Raila is vehemently against Chiloba, OT Morpho and Safaricom
3) Malloch, Annan and the Civil Society Conspiracy against Uhuru and Ruto. After Raila started hitting the French Company OT Morpho... the French Intelligence Agencies leaked Annan's secrets to the Press.. part of the story is published in Today's Standard https://www.standardmedi
a.co.ke/article/2001257305/revealed-kofi-annan-planned-to-
block-uhuru-from-presidency . Annan vigourously tried to stop the Uhuru Ruto ticket, and shamelessly supported Raila. Now, Malloch was Annan's sidekick at the UN, and just before he left office as the UN Boss, Annan appointed Malloch as the number two of UN. https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/
sga984.doc.htm
Do you see the link?The French Intelligence Agencies are linking Raila, Annan and Malloch in the scheme to steal business from the French Firm.
4) UN Link to the dark deals: read the following paragraph in the link above "Prior to becoming Chef de Cabinet, Mr. Malloch Brown served as Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), the UN's global development network, from July 1999 to August 2005. During that time, he was also the Chair of the United Nations Development Group, a committee consisting of the heads of all UN funds, programmes and departments working on development issues."
From the above link, you can see that Malloch was the Head of UNDP........Ezra Chiloba worked at the UNDP for five years. Chiloba was then expected to give business to Smartmatic a company owned by his former Boss.. he refused. Now he is targeted.
Do you know about a vocal top IEBC Official who is close to the UN? Do you remember how she pushed to have UNDP take over election management? Do you remember Raila calling for UN to run this elections? Do you remember UNDP offering to give us election material for Free?.....link it to Malloch
5) Malloch link to electronic RIGGING. Malloch's company has been accused of being part of the schemes in electronic Rigging. http://uk.businessinsider.com/george-soros-con
nection-to-voting-machines-2016-10?IR=T
http://dailycaller.com/2...-machines-in-16-states/
Though the Liberal Press tried very hard to defend Soros, the evidence about Malloch being behind rigging is clear. Now, as you swallow this information ask yourself why Raila wanted a 100% electronic voting system...run by well known global Vote Rigger Malloch?
6)Ask yourself why the crooked Maraga 4 gave OT Morpho unrealistic deadlines to open the servers? This was Maraga's clever way of kicking out OT Morpho and Safaricom and having them replaced by Malloch's Smartmatic Company. Remember, Malloch is the one that gives the Judiciary nearly 80% the external budget cash.
7) Do you remember when a senior Supreme Court Official took off to London instead of being in Kenya at a crucial period last month? It is said that the Supreme Court Official went to London to meet Mulloch and Soros. He was open and told them that Raila cannot and will never win the popular vote. He then gave them the idea of funding a FRESH ELECTION. The senior Supreme Court Official advised that the Judiciary can not hand over victory to Raila if he does not have the numbers.
So, Raila was summoned to London by his bosses. He was ordered to step down for Mudavadi- Kalonzo Ticket in the FRESH ELECTION.
Well, I've just explained the Photo in a thousand words. Keep it here for more details after the release of the Prof Mutahi Ngunyi Fifth Estate....... Goldon Opiyo
......Ecclesiastes
kenmac
#2359 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 11:57:45 AM
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... Duplicate
......Ecclesiastes
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#2360 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:46:11 PM
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They are talking about Biafra now.
They must be aware that over 2m Biafrans died from salvation during the misguided secession attempt.

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Wrong forever on the throne
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