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Can data be transmitted from anywhere in KE?
muganda
#1 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 2:31:08 PM
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CA head Wangusi doesn't think so
IEBC head Chiloba doesn't think so
Government knows it cannot.

Technically (not Politically) speaking, the Chief Technical head of Imasarat, with previous stints in Nokia, UUNET believes the answer only takes 2 short months, as below:



masukuma
#2 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 3:21:25 PM
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VSATs on cattle dipa and water holes? Those are our polling stations. Kenyans are too willing to spend big money to transmit results from cattle dips and water holes and poor primary schools than use the same money for more meaningful development of that very same polling station to aassist in its primary use. juzi we were transmitting for CAW Reps (that's the official name for MCAs) from Kalokol and mosiro... there was no coverage in the polling stations of those CAWs.
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masukuma
#3 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 3:51:11 PM
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I think Kenya becomes a developed country during elections where anything short of some fancy shmansy electronic system is seen to be mediocrity. si we spend that money huko during the 4 years? we talk big about electronic elections happening from random primary schools and laugh at proposals to have laptops in the same schools. We say... hata hawana shule wanasoma chini ya miti... during elections wacha watume results haraka kutoka chini ya hizo miti... hatuwezi ngoja 24hrs.
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muganda
#4 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 4:21:46 PM
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masukuma wrote:
I think Kenya becomes a developed country during elections where anything short of some fancy shmansy electronic system is seen to be mediocrity. si we spend that money huko during the 4 years? we talk big about electronic elections happening from random primary schools and laugh at proposals to have laptops in the same schools. We say... hata hawana shule wanasoma chini ya miti... during elections wacha watume results haraka kutoka chini ya hizo miti... hatuwezi ngoja 24hrs.

Very good response - you've risen above the *technical* aspects smile
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#5 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 5:51:41 PM
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No you can't I am trying to transmit a picture via whatsapp, and some google maps point for directions and I can't, NB I was just a few kilometers inwards from Mariakani yesterday ,some places are more remote than this, the GoK can but they don't want to or just want to annoy baba
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aemathenge
#6 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 5:56:26 PM
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masukuma wrote:
VSATs on cattle dipa and water holes? Those are our polling stations. Kenyans are too willing to spend big money to transmit results from cattle dips and water holes and poor primary schools than use the same money for more meaningful development of that very same polling station to aassist in its primary use. juzi we were transmitting for CAW Reps (that's the official name for MCAs) from Kalokol and mosiro... there was no coverage in the polling stations of those CAWs.

I am of the contrary opinion.

Unless we spend this "big money", then the following will cease to exist:

Cattle Dips
Water Holes
Poor primary schools
CAW Reps
Kenia as (we) know it today.
Et Al.

Instead, there will be Somalia, South Sudan, Burundi, et al.

Let me be more precise:

Spend that big money OR for any rubbish "njuala" you see Strawn all over the environment, there will be a human body part rotting away.

How many "njuala" plasti bags/rubbish have you seen today?

Feel me?
Angelica _ann
#7 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:06:35 PM
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What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all....


According to Jubilee the last mile has reached all villages smile
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masukuma
#8 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:16:11 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
VSATs on cattle dipa and water holes? Those are our polling stations. Kenyans are too willing to spend big money to transmit results from cattle dips and water holes and poor primary schools than use the same money for more meaningful development of that very same polling station to aassist in its primary use. juzi we were transmitting for CAW Reps (that's the official name for MCAs) from Kalokol and mosiro... there was no coverage in the polling stations of those CAWs.

I am of the contrary opinion.

Unless we spend this "big money", then the following will cease to exist:

Cattle Dips
Water Holes
Poor primary schools
CAW Reps
Kenia as (we) know it today.
Et Al.

Instead, there will be Somalia, South Sudan, Burundi, et al.

Let me be more precise:

Spend that big money OR for any rubbish "njuala" you see Strawn all over the environment, there will be a human body part rotting away.

How many "njuala" plasti bags/rubbish have you seen today?

Feel me?

Don't be dramatic...nani hao wanapigana? the only problem comes when some two groups are on opposite sides. The votes that count are in areas with coverage and that should work. I am talking about a law that dictates some stuff. IEBC as it happens is going with the said technologies. The contention is "what should happen in kalokol when things fail.
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aemathenge
#9 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:17:02 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all


In that case, @Masukama's sentiments hold merit.

There are better investments to pour our scarce resources into than permanent online connection for every Cattle Dip, Watering Hole, Poor Primary School and what have you, and which connection will be in use once every five years except the occasional By-Erection.
masukuma
#10 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:22:33 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all


In that case, @Masukama's sentiments hold merit.

There are better investments to pour our scarce resources into than permanent online connection for every Cattle Dip, Watering Hole, Poor Primary School and what have you, and which connection will be in use once every five years except the occasional By-Erection.

There is a lot of hyperbole in this discussion. The facts are tech is being procured that should work in these places... There are work arounds si mulipata results za CAWs hizi. The biggest contention is WHAT HAPPENS WHEN (NOT IF) THEY FAIL.
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murchr
#11 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:28:07 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all....


According to Jubilee the last mile has reached all villages smile


Its too late for that kind of investment. Maybe 2022. The time we have now is not enough to code test and train staff including kibarua.
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aemathenge
#12 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:31:19 PM
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masukuma wrote:

Don't be dramatic...nani hao wanapigana?

Stick around my friend. They will come out of the woodwork at the appropriate time.

The dramatics are in the early booking of flights out of Nairobbery scheduled from July.
Liv
#13 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 6:54:45 PM
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In Kenya, only the Nandi and the Agikuyu can go to real war.

So stop telling stories about how the country will be finished in 2017 if we don't invest vsat and other electronic results transmission gadgets.

That will never happen as long as these two tribes are on the same side
Angelica _ann
#14 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 7:03:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all....


According to Jubilee the last mile has reached all villages smile


Its too late for that kind of investment. Maybe 2022. The time we have now is not enough to code test and train staff including kibarua.

I keep on reading 'including Kabura‘ d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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murchr
#15 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2016 7:31:42 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What #Baba is asking for is investment in elections results technology once and for all....


According to Jubilee the last mile has reached all villages smile


Its too late for that kind of investment. Maybe 2022. The time we have now is not enough to code test and train staff including kibarua.

I keep on reading 'including Kabura‘ d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Ata yeye atakuwa hapo akingojea remember she's supposedly an IT specialist
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masukuma
#16 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 5:36:20 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:

Don't be dramatic...nani hao wanapigana?

Stick around my friend. They will come out of the woodwork at the appropriate time.

The dramatics are in the early booking of flights out of Nairobbery scheduled from July.

Kuna vita na kuna skirmishes
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maka
#17 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:36:21 AM
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@Masukuma you were the one who kept on bashing me that pesa za serikali si za uma...what changed...?
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#18 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:43:28 AM
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PEV only happens because there are influential and high profile politicians and personalities who incite, plan, support and bankroll it.
In the absence of that nothing much would happen.
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Angelica _ann
#19 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:06:24 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
PEV only happens because there are influential and high profile politicians and personalities who incite, plan, support and bankroll it.
In the absence of that nothing much would happen.

And we know them!!!!!
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#20 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:50:52 AM
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muganda wrote:
CA head Wangusi doesn't think so
IEBC head Chiloba doesn't think so
Government knows it cannot.

Technically (not Politically) speaking, the Chief Technical head of Imasarat, with previous stints in Nokia, UUNET believes the answer only takes 2 short months, as below:





satellite internet like vsat is the way to go.there are places mobile signal like safaricom and airtel cannot reach
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