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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:34:28 AM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
ARAP CHARLES
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:36:41 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:


Twende Kazi.. New thread of transition.. Applause
Watch and Listen and Live
Pesa Nane
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:36:47 AM
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Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:42:11 AM
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Pesa Nane
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:44:11 AM
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Pesa Nane
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:46:06 AM
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mlennyma
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:47:04 AM
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Pump and do a rights to save this crap from landing on dry land
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Pesa Nane
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:47:38 AM
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Ericsson
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:51:01 AM
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That borrowings figure is a thorn in the flesh for KQ.
Operating profit ni kiswahili to cheat investors on the impact of the borrowings.
The day when KQ will be borrowing less and repaying more is when turnaround will have began.As at now it's borrowing more than what it's repaying.
Equity position is still growing on the negative direction.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Pesa Nane
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:51:30 AM
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Pesa Nane
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:02:35 AM
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Overheard..

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I knew things were thick when I heard Ngunze say "There is nothing wrong with negative equity" and @alykhansatchu agreed! - @mungaikihanya
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Ebenyo
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:00:32 PM
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From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Impunity
#13 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:19:04 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ebenyo
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:21:29 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!


More borrowing.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
obiero
#15 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:23:27 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!


More borrowing.

"It is a matter of restoring the morale, changing things around making better working practices," Michael Joseph said, adding that "it might take a few months" to set the airline back on course.

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#16 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:33:09 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!


More borrowing. Further losses




Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:39:51 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Impunity wrote:
[quote=Ebenyo]From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!


More borrowing. Further losses


With an increase in the top line, a full year PBT is no longer in the realm of fiction

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:16:57 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Overheard..

Quote:
I knew things were thick when I heard Ngunze say "There is nothing wrong with negative equity" and @alykhansatchu agreed! - @mungaikihanya


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly #Truth I wonder if AKS is getting freebies from KQ to pump it up?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:32:23 PM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Impunity wrote:
[quote=Ebenyo]From negative 35 bilion to negative 38 bilion in shareholders equity.
Michael Joseph guagmire task!


Was this increase in negative equity due to selling of assets or more borrowing?
d'oh!


More borrowing. Further losses


With an increase in the top line, a full year PBT is no longer in the realm of fiction
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Unless:
1) GoK gives a "soft" loan to KQ of KES 30bn to pay off the other loans.
2) Forgiveness of debt by the creditors.
3) A huge increase in turnover [passengers, RSK, cargo, etc]

Bottomline: The "full-year PBT" remains a fiction for FY 2016-17 even FY 2017-18.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#20 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:59:51 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:

Well at least its generating more cash from operating activities.
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