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Law Capping interest rates
Spikes
#1921 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:00:22 AM
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mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
watesh
#1922 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:07:57 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move
Wakanyugi
#1923 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 2:43:26 PM
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Joined: 7/3/2007
Posts: 1,634
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance. We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors.

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit. Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
wukan
#1924 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:59:59 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile



maka
#1925 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:15:15 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#1926 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:17:16 PM
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Location: Nairobi
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#1927 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:19:25 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Location: NAIROBI
maka wrote:
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?


M-Akiba can't be a game changer.Wanjiku has no money to sustain GoK appetite for borrowing.
Money is with HNWI,Institutions and Foreign Investors
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1928 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:48:51 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?


M-Akiba can't be a game changer.Wanjiku has no money to sustain GoK appetite for borrowing.
Money is with HNWI,Institutions and Foreign Investors

Excuse @maka.. He has limited knowledge of the financial sector.. Link http://www.businessdaily...68276-6dnvcxz/index.html

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#1929 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:40:15 PM
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Joined: 7/23/2008
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
[quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?


M-Akiba can't be a game changer.Wanjiku has no money to sustain GoK appetite for borrowing.
Money is with HNWI,Institutions and Foreign Investors

Excuse @maka.. He has limited knowledge of the financial sector.. Link http://www.businessdaily...8276-6dnvcxz/index.html[/quote]

As long as the reversal needs to go through parliament, the banksters can do as many studies as they want, short of Ammergedon, the rate cap will not be reversed, not by MP's.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Wakanyugi
#1930 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:43:35 PM
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Joined: 7/3/2007
Posts: 1,634
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
wukan wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
watesh wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Everyone is hearing what they want to hear.

The president did not regret capping the bank rates, he said the lack of credit flow to SME's was an unfortunate consequence which he will work on. "work on" in my opinion does not equate to reversing the capping law (which by the way he can't even if he wanted to)

Let him use other means for example reduce the govt appetite for borrowing from the domestic market.



Rate~cap days are numbered. No matter how deep the ostrich sinks its head in the bloody sand.

HERE


CS Rotich's take as of yesterday 27th March


Treasury secretary Henry Rotich yesterday said the government is mulling reviewing the caps in the wake of a sharp decline in credit growth.
“We are monitoring the situation very closely. This will inform our next course of action, including reviewing the caps if that’s necessary,” said Mr Rotich in a separate event.

mtangoja sanaaaaaaa

This thing wont be reversed before elections....the signing was a political move


Banksters pining for the bad old days of buccaneer banking need to get over their misplaced sense importance.Banks are fine just preserving shareholders capital and buying govt bondssmile We just learned from the recent strike that Kenyans can do without Doctors. Health care and Credit is like apples and mangoes

Wanjiku has survived very well without bank credit.Most mobile loans are borrowed at 4am by wanjiku mama mbogas so Wanjiku prefers expensive mobile credit to no credit Thanks to M-akiba the government is about to show it can do the same. 150 million is not even enough to fill Kabura's gunias And you fellows still think you are gods gift to the nation? Get real. Chill God loves yousmile smile





Someone said m akina could be a game changer if handled well...the govt can be borrowing at 10% or lower what alternative will banks be left with?


M-Akiba can't be a game changer.Wanjiku has no money to sustain GoK appetite for borrowing.
Money is with HNWI,Institutions and Foreign Investors


Famous last words.

Consider:
1. The take up of M-Akiba is defying all expectations, high as they were. Rotich even wants to change the law to allow bigger transactions through Mpesa, to wit - COMPETION

2. The CBK Governor has lifted the moratorium on registering new banks - COMPETITION

3. I expect the ceiling on bank capitalization to be raised within the year; expect M&A action in the banking sector to heat up - CONSOLIDATION/COMPETITION

And, if the above still does not get to you, maybe this will:

The new constitution has not only limited the governments power of fiat, it has also introduced a new power center, in peoples activism. If banks wanted the cap lifted, the crude arm twisting, way they are going about it is exactly the wrong way. You don't believe me? Wait for KOT to get involved.

Then there is this reality - banks have been screwing Wanjiku and SME's for eons. Threatening to screw them even more, unless the cap is lifted, is like asking a condemned man to chose between death by drowning and death by hanging.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
obiero
#1931 Posted : Sunday, April 02, 2017 7:19:28 PM
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Good news from CBA http://kenyanwallstreet....ngs-driven-fees-m-shwari

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watesh
#1932 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 7:48:10 AM
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[quote=obiero]Good news from CBA http://kenyanwallstreet....gs-driven-fees-m-shwari[/quote]
The power of m-shwari....this bank isn't feeling any pinch. If only KCB could utilize this platform well
Angelica _ann
#1933 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 9:09:11 AM
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watesh wrote:
[quote=obiero]Good news from CBA http://kenyanwallstreet....gs-driven-fees-m-shwari[/quote]
The power of m-shwari....this bank isn't feeling any pinch. If only KCB could utilize this platform well


How come Equitel has not penetrated this market the way it did with loans to Wanjuku??????
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
quicksand
#1934 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 9:27:06 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:

watesh wrote:


The power of m-shwari....this bank isn't feeling any pinch. If only KCB could utilize this platform well


How come Equitel has not penetrated this market the way it did with loans to Wanjuku??????

....there is more to be read from the tea leaves Think Think Think
Here goes:
Rumor has it the principals have high stakes in CBA. So if CBA is coming out unscathed by the interest cap regime (from this Mshwari thing) while the other banks are nursing bruises then interest caps are going nowhere for now..hata hao Bankster CEOs dance with their underwear on their heads or lick shoes clean ....
Equity and Equitel running into rough seas (either by omission or commission -Safaricom will remain unfazed by the loud noises made by Airtel or these toothless, windbag commissioners like Wangusi) is an advantageous thing as it takes some wind out of the sails of James Mwangi....some uncomfortable rumors about an interest in the top seat had started swirling around.
In all seriousness though, Equitel should take over Airtel Ke, root and branch, application layer all the way to the metal ...and introduce true Kenyan badassness in Telecomms...reducing the hegemony and making the sector robust again. There is money still to be made in this sector.
maka
#1935 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 11:18:46 AM
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watesh wrote:
[quote=obiero]Good news from CBA http://kenyanwallstreet....gs-driven-fees-m-shwari[/quote]
The power of m-shwari....this bank isn't feeling any pinch. If only KCB could utilize this platform well


KCB should work on their systems 1st they are bogus kabisa.....
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#1936 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:16:24 AM
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All listed lenders to take profit reduction hits in the Q1 apart from simba and dtb

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Aguytrying
#1937 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:48:36 AM
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Hahaha. Thanks for the opportunity to get equity bank on the cheap. Thanks. I waited for 4 years, I'm grateful
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wukan
#1938 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:59:51 PM
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Quote:
The price of the 2kg packet of maize flour has risen to a historic high of Sh153.
Other food items whose prices have been rising fast are the 500ml packet of milk that is currently retailing at Sh56 from Sh53 during the same period last year.
Rice, another staple in Kenya, has also risen to sell at Sh113 from Sh101 in the corresponding period last year.
The price of sugar has continued to rise, taking the 2kg packet to Sh300.
The high cost of living has eroded the purchasing power of low-income households that spend a large fraction of their income on food.
The job market survey, conducted by Corporate Staffing Services using data from the Institute of Human Resource Management (IHRM), found that 73 per cent of employers across 12 sectors have stopped new hiring.


The doom and gloom reportSad Sad The story so far. Once inflation goes up the CBK rate goes up. It doesn't end wellPray
mlennyma
#1939 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:32:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
All listed lenders to take profit reduction hits in the Q1 apart from simba and dtb

will this cause any stampede?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
bartum
#1940 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:55:45 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
All listed lenders to take profit reduction hits in the Q1 apart from simba and dtb

will this cause any stampede?

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