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The Young Lawyer
Prospects of being a lawyer is having a big car, big house, sizeable spouse and healthy kids who attend those schools.
But before then, a lawyer is sufferer.
After reading law for five years, one is expected to go for pupilage.
This pupilage stage is where most students wished they could have done "lighter courses"
At the ODPP there's no pay, you just work hoping they'll absorb you later.
At the AGs a lawyer is paid 10k, then you're posted anywhere in the country. How you transport yourself and your stuff there is your own typhoid.
The biggest taker of pupils are law firms.
Good law firms in Nairobi pay between 20 - 30k. Houses in Nairobi may consume half of that, u have to walk long distances at lunch hour to look for pocket friendly vibandas. Then you have to wake up before the birds to pay fair fare or you just pretend you want to avoid jam. Law firms in Nairobi that pay 10k and below should be evacuated because they are spoiling the name of the capital city.
In up country, some law firms are courageous enough to pay 5k to a degree holder. That 5k is not paid at once, some months you can even go without it.
Surely how do these law firms expect people to live?
You meet a class mate who all over sudden looks twice their age. With suits that passed retirement age two years ago. Shoes are not totally worn out because lawyers are thin and light. Suits have changed colors thrice from the original color.
The firms expect you to smile as you welcome clients. How can someone who ate nothing smile,? They keep thinking how much they owe the owner of madondo hotel, many wishing they were tunoi.
Some students have eaten greens so much so that they spit green saliva.
Some have entered MoU with kibanda proprietor so that they can eat and pay later whenever they use their wits in the firms to get money through other unorthodox means.
Mama mboga has her book where she records her debtors. The column of a lawyer she writes: wakili wa suti brown. Because there are several other lawyers in her book.
People from village keep sending you harambee cards for various projects. Some have so much faith in you that the make you guest of honor: Hon. Mwesimiwa wakili Ochi Baba- Guest of Honor.
Some concerned Aunties also tempt you with suitable spouses, wondering what you're waiting for while your agemates have beaten homes with two wives.
But lawyers are resilent, I haven't any who has committed suicide despite the untold sufferings.
Keep up friends, tough times won't last forever!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:The Young Lawyer
Prospects of being a lawyer is having a big car, big house, sizeable spouse and healthy kids who attend those schools.
But before then, a lawyer is sufferer.
After reading law for five years, one is expected to go for pupilage.
This pupilage stage is where most students wished they could have done "lighter courses"
At the ODPP there's no pay, you just work hoping they'll absorb you later.
At the AGs a lawyer is paid 10k, then you're posted anywhere in the country. How you transport yourself and your stuff there is your own typhoid.
The biggest taker of pupils are law firms.
Good law firms in Nairobi pay between 20 - 30k. Houses in Nairobi may consume half of that, u have to walk long distances at lunch hour to look for pocket friendly vibandas. Then you have to wake up before the birds to pay fair fare or you just pretend you want to avoid jam. Law firms in Nairobi that pay 10k and below should be evacuated because they are spoiling the name of the capital city.
In up country, some law firms are courageous enough to pay 5k to a degree holder. That 5k is not paid at once, some months you can even go without it.
Surely how do these law firms expect people to live?
You meet a class mate who all over sudden looks twice their age. With suits that passed retirement age two years ago. Shoes are not totally worn out because lawyers are thin and light. Suits have changed colors thrice from the original color.
The firms expect you to smile as you welcome clients. How can someone who ate nothing smile,? They keep thinking how much they owe the owner of madondo hotel, many wishing they were tunoi.
Some students have eaten greens so much so that they spit green saliva.
Some have entered MoU with kibanda proprietor so that they can eat and pay later whenever they use their wits in the firms to get money through other unorthodox means.
Mama mboga has her book where she records her debtors. The column of a lawyer she writes: wakili wa suti brown. Because there are several other lawyers in her book.
People from village keep sending you harambee cards for various projects. Some have so much faith in you that the make you guest of honor: Hon. Mwesimiwa wakili Ochi Baba- Guest of Honor.
Some concerned Aunties also tempt you with suitable spouses, wondering what you're waiting for while your agemates have beaten homes with two wives.
But lawyers are resilent, I haven't any who has committed suicide despite the untold sufferings.
Keep up friends, tough times won't last forever!! Are you a young lawyer? You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Definitely a young lawyer.  Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 299 Location: kenya
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:The Young Lawyer
Prospects of being a lawyer is having a big car, big house, sizeable spouse and healthy kids who attend those schools.
But before then, a lawyer is sufferer.
After reading law for five years, one is expected to go for pupilage.
This pupilage stage is where most students wished they could have done "lighter courses"
At the ODPP there's no pay, you just work hoping they'll absorb you later.
At the AGs a lawyer is paid 10k, then you're posted anywhere in the country. How you transport yourself and your stuff there is your own typhoid.
The biggest taker of pupils are law firms.
Good law firms in Nairobi pay between 20 - 30k. Houses in Nairobi may consume half of that, u have to walk long distances at lunch hour to look for pocket friendly vibandas. Then you have to wake up before the birds to pay fair fare or you just pretend you want to avoid jam. Law firms in Nairobi that pay 10k and below should be evacuated because they are spoiling the name of the capital city.
In up country, some law firms are courageous enough to pay 5k to a degree holder. That 5k is not paid at once, some months you can even go without it.
Surely how do these law firms expect people to live?
You meet a class mate who all over sudden looks twice their age. With suits that passed retirement age two years ago. Shoes are not totally worn out because lawyers are thin and light. Suits have changed colors thrice from the original color.
The firms expect you to smile as you welcome clients. How can someone who ate nothing smile,? They keep thinking how much they owe the owner of madondo hotel, many wishing they were tunoi.
Some students have eaten greens so much so that they spit green saliva.
Some have entered MoU with kibanda proprietor so that they can eat and pay later whenever they use their wits in the firms to get money through other unorthodox means.
Mama mboga has her book where she records her debtors. The column of a lawyer she writes: wakili wa suti brown. Because there are several other lawyers in her book.
People from village keep sending you harambee cards for various projects. Some have so much faith in you that the make you guest of honor: Hon. Mwesimiwa wakili Ochi Baba- Guest of Honor.
Some concerned Aunties also tempt you with suitable spouses, wondering what you're waiting for while your agemates have beaten homes with two wives.
But lawyers are resilent, I haven't any who has committed suicide despite the untold sufferings.
Keep up friends, tough times won't last forever!! This is the problem of thinking that you can make it big in a career within the first year of employment. Just like in other careers one needs to face it rough at first.Its what we call experience.Pesa baadaye.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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@Maka is lucky, He works for Cliff Ombeta and he gets a crying allowance depending with how many times he shed tears on TV for a client. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2015 Posts: 166
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popat wrote:Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:The Young Lawyer
Prospects of being a lawyer is having a big car, big house, sizeable spouse and healthy kids who attend those schools.
But before then, a lawyer is sufferer.
After reading law for five years, one is expected to go for pupilage.
This pupilage stage is where most students wished they could have done "lighter courses"
At the ODPP there's no pay, you just work hoping they'll absorb you later.
At the AGs a lawyer is paid 10k, then you're posted anywhere in the country. How you transport yourself and your stuff there is your own typhoid.
The biggest taker of pupils are law firms.
Good law firms in Nairobi pay between 20 - 30k. Houses in Nairobi may consume half of that, u have to walk long distances at lunch hour to look for pocket friendly vibandas. Then you have to wake up before the birds to pay fair fare or you just pretend you want to avoid jam. Law firms in Nairobi that pay 10k and below should be evacuated because they are spoiling the name of the capital city.
In up country, some law firms are courageous enough to pay 5k to a degree holder. That 5k is not paid at once, some months you can even go without it.
Surely how do these law firms expect people to live?
You meet a class mate who all over sudden looks twice their age. With suits that passed retirement age two years ago. Shoes are not totally worn out because lawyers are thin and light. Suits have changed colors thrice from the original color.
The firms expect you to smile as you welcome clients. How can someone who ate nothing smile,? They keep thinking how much they owe the owner of madondo hotel, many wishing they were tunoi.
Some students have eaten greens so much so that they spit green saliva.
Some have entered MoU with kibanda proprietor so that they can eat and pay later whenever they use their wits in the firms to get money through other unorthodox means.
Mama mboga has her book where she records her debtors. The column of a lawyer she writes: wakili wa suti brown. Because there are several other lawyers in her book.
People from village keep sending you harambee cards for various projects. Some have so much faith in you that the make you guest of honor: Hon. Mwesimiwa wakili Ochi Baba- Guest of Honor.
Some concerned Aunties also tempt you with suitable spouses, wondering what you're waiting for while your agemates have beaten homes with two wives.
But lawyers are resilent, I haven't any who has committed suicide despite the untold sufferings.
Keep up friends, tough times won't last forever!! This is the problem of thinking that you can make it big in a career within the first year of employment. Just like in other careers one needs to face it rough at first.Its what we call experience.Pesa baadaye. This is a good discussion. A look at the figures they are extremely low compared to the qualification.
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Rank: Hello Joined: 2/9/2016 Posts: 1
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Such are the woes of all Kenyan graduates who have done the so called prestigious courses.ie law, engineering, Medicine etc You slave for 5yrs to get enslaved on the basis of gaining experience.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/8/2015 Posts: 42
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Is this "unyanyasaji" of new graduates any different in developed nations? The U.K. is having beef with junior doctors who feel overworked and underpaid.
It's as if the social-economic law of gravity has changed: pick speed as you fall (progress) down the career path, with a peak speed (earning). Motion starts at zero or near-zero, and often accelerates to dizzying speeds (and we know there are crazy employment income figures).
I doubt if we can change this trend, because the new graduands are often at 10% practical knowledge till experience takes of (creating the boost in income).
Pay is very much a demand-supply driven variable. Unless govt wants to intentionally shift this curve. And i doubt the current govt or its alternative can engage issues that deep
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Sven Thoreksson wrote:Such are the woes of all Kenyan graduates who have done the so called prestigious courses.ie law, engineering, Medicine etc You slave for 5yrs to get enslaved on the basis of gaining experience. People are better off taking biz courses, they end up managing those who took prestigious courses, An entry position for an accounts assistant is 80K!(Not the wahindi and okuyo run family establishments) If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Okay I am no lawyer, but I can advise don't enter a firm looking for a big salary enter wanting to be a part of the firm, any firm welcomes new business and unless you were just drinking and partying in campus you should know a few guys with problems and some chums and they need a lawyer, ask the boss what they would give you if you get them new business, if you happen to bring in a big one the firm starts to treat your pocket better. But make sure you have an agreement first otherwise you will be very bitter for getting millions for your firm and getting your 5k at the end of the month. To Each His Own
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