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Old Xtrail vs Old Rav 4
tnai9
#1 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 11:53:27 AM
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I have some experience with cars but I know there are experts here in wazua. I would like to acquire an older SUV-2000cc Max either RAV4/X-trail 2001-2005 model budget 800K max.Of these two dear wazuans, which would you advice bearing in mind an ordinary Nairobians concerns.
-Fuel consumption (is there a difference assume both are 2K cc?)
-Serviceability and likelihood of issues - have heard some horror issues with some X-trails not sure if it cuts across. X-Trails are also cheaper to buy, not sure about running costs vs Rav 4.

I intend to use the car for the long haul - 5+ years.
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jerry
#2 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 5:36:41 PM
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I recommend to you my KAU ***R CRV at 750k!
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sparkly
#3 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 8:39:21 PM
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tnai9 wrote:
I have some experience with cars but I know there are experts here in wazua. I would like to acquire an older SUV-2000cc Max either RAV4/X-trail 2001-2005 model budget 800K max.Of these two dear wazuans, which would you advice bearing in mind an ordinary Nairobians concerns.
-Fuel consumption (is there a difference assume both are 2K cc?)
-Serviceability and likelihood of issues - have heard some horror issues with some X-trails not sure if it cuts across. X-Trails are also cheaper to buy, not sure about running costs vs Rav 4.

I intend to use the car for the long haul - 5+ years.


For 10-15 year old cars, what you are looking for is a well maintained car regardless engine cc or model.

Cars depreciate fast so your main expense will be repairs and maintenance.

I would rather top up the 800k and buy an ex-japan saloon than a 2001 RAV 4. The repairs you incur in the next 2 years will be enough to buy another old RAV 4.



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tnai9
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:54:58 AM
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sparkly wrote:

For 10-15 year old cars, what you are looking for is a well maintained car regardless engine cc or model.

Cars depreciate fast so your main expense will be repairs and maintenance.

I would rather top up the 800k and buy an ex-japan saloon than a 2001 RAV 4. The repairs you incur in the next 2 years will be enough to buy another old RAV 4.


Is it that bad? I was imagining changes to the usual suspects -suspension, links etc. I have a 'newer' saloon that I will easily dispose off for abt 1M and wanted an SUV coz I intend to venture off road most weekends. I am biased a bit towards toyota though. Any owners of 'old' Rav 4s, say 2003-2005 Models?? Kindly share experiences
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tnai9
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:56:48 AM
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jerry wrote:
I recommend to you my KAU ***R CRV at 750k!


Thanks @Jerry, but I wasn't keen on Honda, though I understand their engines are unbreakable.
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sparkly
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:21:07 AM
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tnai9 wrote:
sparkly wrote:

For 10-15 year old cars, what you are looking for is a well maintained car regardless engine cc or model.

Cars depreciate fast so your main expense will be repairs and maintenance.

I would rather top up the 800k and buy an ex-japan saloon than a 2001 RAV 4. The repairs you incur in the next 2 years will be enough to buy another old RAV 4.


Is it that bad? I was imagining changes to the usual suspects -suspension, links etc. I have a 'newer' saloon that I will easily dispose off for abt 1M and wanted an SUV coz I intend to venture off road most weekends. I am biased a bit towards toyota though. Any owners of 'old' Rav 4s, say 2003-2005 Models?? Kindly share experiences


You will be lucky to get a RAV 4 in good shape for 800k.

Hope you get lucky.
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jerry
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:21:38 AM
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tnai9 wrote:
jerry wrote:
I recommend to you my KAU ***R CRV at 750k!


Thanks @Jerry, but I wasn't keen on Honda, though I understand their engines are unbreakable.

True about engine being what you say. Other parts also last long and it''s stable on the road (off-road) and incomparable to RAV4. I'm not marketing though. The consumption is rather a deterrent at a conservative 8.5KPL!
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tnai9
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:39:50 AM
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sparkly wrote:

You will be lucky to get a RAV 4 in good shape for 800k.
Hope you get lucky.


I have some small room for adjustment, but wanted one for like 800K, then I use like 100k to change what I don't like so that I have a 'fresh' starting point. Seeing some good ones(visually) on olx for such a price range
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tnai9
#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:50:20 AM
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jerry wrote:

True about engine being what you say. Other parts also last long and it''s stable on the road (off-road) and incomparable to RAV4. I'm not marketing though. The consumption is rather a deterrent at a conservative 8.5KPL!


That is for town driving or highway? If town not bad but kama ni highway then that is expensive. Is it a 2000cc? Thought Rav 4s are thirstier than hondas generally?
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faa
#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:52:16 AM
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I have a old rav 4,well maintained by a lady,with new tyres.

Good condition. @

Please send me your email i send you the pics

pope-2009@live.com

tnai9
#11 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:00:53 AM
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faa wrote:
I have a old rav 4,well maintained by a lady,with new tyres.

Good condition. @

Please send me your email i send you the pics

pope-2009@live.com



Sent
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sitaki.kujulikana
#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:49:13 AM
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does mentioning car owned by lady increase the value of a car, I have seen that phrase used frequently by many car sellers.
tnai9
#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:52:57 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
does mentioning car owned by lady increase the value of a car, I have seen that phrase used frequently by many car sellers.


Its assumed -and is mostly true-that ladies are gentler drivers with almost zero levels of testosterone and don't hit potholes and drive over pavements or rough up the car, so its assumed the car has been pampered and should therefore be 'safer' to buy..
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TheGeek
#14 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:29:35 PM
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tnai9 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
does mentioning car owned by lady increase the value of a car, I have seen that phrase used frequently by many car sellers.


Its assumed -and is mostly true-that ladies are gentler drivers with almost zero levels of testosterone and don't hit potholes and drive over pavements or rough up the car, so its assumed the car has been pampered and should therefore be 'safer' to buy..


flipside being majority know little about sparkplug and brakepads.
chances of a fishy mechanic has replaced their "worn out" genuine engine components with grogon parts is high.

Get a reputable mech to examine the vehicle before you buy.
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tnai9
#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:55:50 AM
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TheGeek wrote:
tnai9 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
does mentioning car owned by lady increase the value of a car, I have seen that phrase used frequently by many car sellers.


Its assumed -and is mostly true-that ladies are gentler drivers with almost zero levels of testosterone and don't hit potholes and drive over pavements or rough up the car, so its assumed the car has been pampered and should therefore be 'safer' to buy..


flipside being majority know little about sparkplug and brakepads.
chances of a fishy mechanic has replaced their "worn out" genuine engine components with grogon parts is high.

Get a reputable mech to examine the vehicle before you buy.


You can also be never sure that it was actually only lady driven, now that its mostly men who bring it to the yard or are the ones advertising it..
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jerry
#16 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:15:41 PM
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tnai9 wrote:
jerry wrote:

True about engine being what you say. Other parts also last long and it''s stable on the road (off-road) and incomparable to RAV4. I'm not marketing though. The consumption is rather a deterrent at a conservative 8.5KPL!


That is for town driving or highway? If town not bad but kama ni highway then that is expensive. Is it a 2000cc? Thought Rav 4s are thirstier than hondas generally?

Highway, 2000cc petrol. What's the consumption for RAV4? I think the best CRV will give you 13kpl on highway.
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jerry
#17 Posted : Saturday, January 02, 2016 9:51:50 AM
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jerry wrote:
tnai9 wrote:
jerry wrote:

True about engine being what you say. Other parts also last long and it''s stable on the road (off-road) and incomparable to RAV4. I'm not marketing though. The consumption is rather a deterrent at a conservative 8.5KPL!


That is for town driving or highway? If town not bad but kama ni highway then that is expensive. Is it a 2000cc? Thought Rav 4s are thirstier than hondas generally?

Highway, 2000cc petrol. What's the consumption for RAV4? I think the best CRV will give you 13kpl on highway.

I need a maroon Premio 1800cc!
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tnai9
#18 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 9:40:07 AM
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jerry wrote:

I need a maroon Premio 1800cc!


Maroon is a very rare colour.. Do you want do downgrade the consumption?

1800cc Toyota is a very good consumer. Still struggling with the decision of upgrading my fuel consumption now that am in town mostly..

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faa
#19 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 2:56:16 PM
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jerry wrote:
tnai9 wrote:
jerry wrote:

True about engine being what you say. Other parts also last long and it''s stable on the road (off-road) and incomparable to RAV4. I'm not marketing though. The consumption is rather a deterrent at a conservative 8.5KPL!


That is for town driving or highway? If town not bad but kama ni highway then that is expensive. Is it a 2000cc? Thought Rav 4s are thirstier than hondas generally?

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