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paulkimani wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. Some guys were not amused with your sentiments that time. I always wondered if these trio could scam their employer, Britam, what aren't they capable of? It’s four of them. Edwin Dande, Patricia Wanjama, Elizabeth Nkuku and Shiv Arora. I called it from day one and everyone hated on me. https://twitter.com/bone...290580602060668928?s=21
“ @CytonnInvest there's some mazematics going on in your unit trust statements that you need to fix. Things don't add up.” Word on the street is that Shiv Arora has jumped ship like the proverbial rat. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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KulaRaha wrote:paulkimani wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. Some guys were not amused with your sentiments that time. I always wondered if these trio could scam their employer, Britam, what aren't they capable of? It’s four of them. Edwin Dande, Patricia Wanjama, Elizabeth Nkuku and Shiv Arora. I called it from day one and everyone hated on me. https://twitter.com/bone...290580602060668928?s=21
“ @CytonnInvest there's some mazematics going on in your unit trust statements that you need to fix. Things don't add up.” Word on the street is that Shiv Arora has jumped ship like the proverbial rat. He was their “Chief Financial officer” CFO he must be liable for all this damage? Yes Queen, Patricia was legal at Britam.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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paulkimani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:paulkimani wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. Some guys were not amused with your sentiments that time. I always wondered if these trio could scam their employer, Britam, what aren't they capable of? It’s four of them. Edwin Dande, Patricia Wanjama, Elizabeth Nkuku and Shiv Arora. I called it from day one and everyone hated on me. https://twitter.com/bone...290580602060668928?s=21
“ @CytonnInvest there's some mazematics going on in your unit trust statements that you need to fix. Things don't add up.” Word on the street is that Shiv Arora has jumped ship like the proverbial rat. He was their “Chief Financial officer” CFO he must be liable for all this damage? Yes Queen, Patricia was legal at Britam. Through all my research, I remember entering their offices once as a “potential client” Edwin and Shivs eyes were bloodshot red and one had a little “baby powder” stuck to their tie.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. UUUUUWWWWIIII. Anyway still investing with them. Had my money reinvested back into the fund for an extended period of 1 year from my due date through the infinite wisdom of the board. I will be back here tell you in 2 years whether or not I still have my money. 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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tony stark wrote:tony stark wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rollout wrote:Even educated investor will struggle to remember which product is regulated and which product is not regulated.
-- Cytonn High Yield Solution (CHYS)
-- Cytonn High Yield Fund (CHYF)
At best, Cytonn did a terrible job making sure their investors understand what they were investing in. At worst, Cytonn intentionally wanted to confuse their investors.
It was obviously this one, prey on the massess' innocence and limited investment knowledge/exposure. I have invested in the cyton high yield solution and have gotten my money out with no problem or hustle. I then reinvested again and I am still expecting to get my money with no hustle. Will know by September if I get my money. But the experience clear. They informed me several times through the agent that this is an unregulated product and they try to sell you to the regulated product. You even sign that you know he risk. Wouldn't say they tried to hide anything. Do i know their investment strategy that will yield 18% in these ridiculous times. NO! Do I expect to get 18% interest ..... YES! These are the kind of messages I need from my fund manager "Dear Esteemed Client, Following the assent of the Tax Amendment Bill 2020, CHYS & CPN investors will now enjoy a final tax rate of 15% on their returns, instead of the previous 30%. This is more reason to further your investment in CHYS & CPN. CMMF & CHYF will continue as before with a 15% final tax on the interest" Let me collect my 18% +covid tax relief yangu. Aluta continua!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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VituVingiSana wrote:paulkimani wrote:itz wrote:paulkimani wrote:itz wrote:Has anyone here gotten their money back from Cytonn High yield fund? this year Have you tried? If you have and been unsuccessful, you should probably get the other investors and a lawyer. Unless the money has already left and been embezzled by the four thieves. Sorry about your luck. They were a horrible scam from day 1. Best of luck to you. I have tried and they say the board decided to extended redemption dates by 12 months after already moving mine by 3 months.You also had the option of topping up and buying a unit/ not sure which development at current market prices. Now everyone is silent. I’m sorry to tell you, they’ll extend again after the year is up. They have the right. You’ll never see the money. It’ll disappear. Sorry for your troubles, I would still advise a lawyer and finding other investors to join (Twitter is a good place to start) Best of luck. This is not a thread/topic I usually post on since I am mostly in equities and GoK paper. Read a few pages. Vitu ni motomoto. Good luck! @PaulKimani 10 - 0 @Haters You can't be serious. @paulkimani is as biased as they come. Standing in the middle of a pandemic saying "I told you this company will fail 5 years ago" is like standing in the middle of a storm and saying I told you it's going to rain. So before we crown paulkimani a prophet for trolling a company for 5 years you have to access cytonn correctly 1. Are the issues they are facing mainly due to the Rona or is it bad management. PK says its bad management and insinuated that they take drugs. Very biased! 2. The financial market have massive inefficiencies. Can a company honestly make 25% returns on investments consistently. In real estate yes but the big problem with real estate is financing for it. This is what I can tell cytonn is doing getting cheap funds and using the cheap funds in real estate and other areas and doing it at scale. I think that is the relevant question? Is Cytonn successfully using the money raised in activities that can ensure 25-30% returns consistently. I did my home work maybe the rest can do theirs as well. 3. If you have answered issues 1 and 2 then the final question should be .... what does this mean for their future. Well Rona, will still be here and real estate will not have improved so is this just kicking the can down the road. Depending on how you answer question 2 the future can real look very very bright for anyone who is liquid and wants to get into real estate. As Wamugunda will say ploti maguta maguta are every where and you can squeeze those shillings till Kenyatta winces on the statue. Cytonn has successfully locked down funds for an extra 1-3 years for most people. in a real estate market that is down if they know what they are doing this is christmas for cytonn. But as a hater. Paul Kimani is the example of a troll that has no substance. At least Wamugunda knows what he is talking about but this comedian has no clue how to evaluate this business. Paul Kimani 0 - Haters 0.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 561 Location: Britain
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paulkimani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:paulkimani wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. Some guys were not amused with your sentiments that time. I always wondered if these trio could scam their employer, Britam, what aren't they capable of? It’s four of them. Edwin Dande, Patricia Wanjama, Elizabeth Nkuku and Shiv Arora. I called it from day one and everyone hated on me. https://twitter.com/bone...290580602060668928?s=21
“ @CytonnInvest there's some mazematics going on in your unit trust statements that you need to fix. Things don't add up.” Word on the street is that Shiv Arora has jumped ship like the proverbial rat. He was their “Chief Financial officer” CFO he must be liable for all this damage? Yes Queen, Patricia was legal at Britam. Thanks for your clarification. A quartet of evil indeed. The odour emanating from this thing could put a skunk to shame.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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Queen wrote:paulkimani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:paulkimani wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Queen wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Watch this thread. There will be many guys who lose their money to this scheme.
remember I said it here. Post No.28. Posted on 16th January, 2016. Premonition? Back then they were paying between 18% and 24% on deposits. No premonition needed, ponzi alert activated. Remember, if it looks like a goat, has horns like a goat, and bleats like a goat, then it probably is a goat. Some guys were not amused with your sentiments that time. I always wondered if these trio could scam their employer, Britam, what aren't they capable of? It’s four of them. Edwin Dande, Patricia Wanjama, Elizabeth Nkuku and Shiv Arora. I called it from day one and everyone hated on me. https://twitter.com/bone...290580602060668928?s=21
“ @CytonnInvest there's some mazematics going on in your unit trust statements that you need to fix. Things don't add up.” Word on the street is that Shiv Arora has jumped ship like the proverbial rat. He was their “Chief Financial officer” CFO he must be liable for all this damage? Yes Queen, Patricia was legal at Britam. Thanks for your clarification. A quartet of evil indeed. The odour emanating from this thing could put a skunk to shame. Apologies, he was the COO - Chief Operating Officer. Sad he can quit and get away with it, while operations are still ongoing and clients are worrying tirelessly or don’t have access to their funds during this unprecedented time. Hopefully they will ALL be held liable when the time comes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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Tony Stark - read all 42 pages and come back with specific questions. Can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t have time to waste so if you’re just going to troll out long essays - keep going bro. “Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you.” - tony stark Even he admits it  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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paulkimani wrote:Tony Stark - read all 42 pages and come back with specific questions. Can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t have time to waste so if you’re just going to troll out long essays - keep going bro. “Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you.” - tony stark Even he admits it So your evidence is the rumblings on Wazua?? You don't have your thoughts on paper?? I have been following this thread for a while and have seen your propaganda. So let me summarize for you. There is a general viewpoint that 18- 20% is ridiculous return on investments. This seems to be kularaha argument. Makes sense if you only think of the NSE casino. But this is a wrong hypothesis .... Real estate easily returns 25 -40% when annualized for rent and capital appreciation.. Also cash management services can be very lucrative. There are several high return investments the challenge is scale and repeatability. Your other hypothesis is Ooohhh they robbed Britam. Clearly this was addressed in court and this is clearly a case of the big dog trying to chase away competition. This is very rampant in Kenya. Your other insinuations about character and personalities in cytonn seems to be your main focus in 38 pages. However this is the most biased part. Nikama ulinyimwa na mtu cytonn ... Na sijui kama ni boy ama girl in cytonn alikunyima. Because boss you need to have more focus in life before you discuss other people's lives. I believe this summarizes the 42 pages? Is there anything I missed?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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murchr wrote:tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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tony stark wrote:murchr wrote:tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Sure. I still believe the business concept is bout to fail and would advise anyone to keep off. But long termers....keep holding on you never know. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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tony stark wrote:murchr wrote:tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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KulaRaha wrote:tony stark wrote:murchr wrote:tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Congratulations. You should tell the story of the Eskay company on Wazua. It would be great to learn from! Also I am very glad The Real Massey aka The real Cindano did not collapse the company!!! It seems I am the paul Kimani of the Eskay company!! Organize, mobilize, viva!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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KulaRaha wrote:tony stark wrote:murchr wrote:tony stark wrote:Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personallyMany people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Not crying yet. When the time comes to cry or celebrate we will all know Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Some people had their doubts on the company, said as much on this thread and moved on. I guess many here agree with Paul Kimana's sentiments on Cytonn. But i guess they dont agree with the way he has been pushing the agenda (he is personal and vindictive  ). In terms of doubting Cytonn, he came very late to the party, wazuans had highlighted everything earlier on this thread and there is another one hidden hapa hapa wazua. Ni hayo tu. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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