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Baba can't be arrested.we cannot win against corruption
Fyatu
#1 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 11:29:56 PM
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We cannot win against corruption because most individuals in Kenya are above the law. It is plain simple. Some individuals in Kenya cannot be arrested and charged in a court of law because they are above the law. Baba has sub-consciously proved this to be true.

Anyone perceived to be powerful in Kenya cannot be arrested or charged in a court of law because by doing so, there might be tribal upheaval leading to economic repercussions.

It is official. In Kenya you have to be big in monetary value as well as politically connected to be above the law. This rot is rooted down to the junior-most government officer or a any wanna-be businessman/tender-entrepreneur.

If we are serious in our fight against corruption then, a police constable should be able to arrest a former-senior government officer(Former prime Minister or even former President) without fear of repercussion.

The Kenyan courts should be able to make a just decision no matter who the accused is etc.

Hata yule dere ana angusha chuani kwa roady asi sazwe...pia huyo karao ana okota. Wote ndani na wanang'anywe mali....ni hayo tu kwa sasa

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sparkly
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 6:28:01 AM
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Baba blew the whistle. You do not arrest the whistle blower.

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obiero
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 6:41:43 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Baba blew the whistle. You do not arrest the whistle blower.


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Fyatu
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:49:02 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Baba blew the whistle. You do not arrest the whistle blower.



I'm not saying baba should be arrested,what i'm saying is that this Eurobond fiasco has exposed one major weakness in the government's fight against corruption. They cannot arrest the (corrupt) big fish, neither can they charge them in court or confiscate/freeze their assets. As far as i am concerned baba still remains "safi kama pamba" but the point is that the whole saga took the "mtu wetu" turn/twist. All the nations that have successfully slayed the corruption monster have done it in a very radical way...high profile arrests, forceful repossession of stolen assets etc
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Angelica _ann
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:55:47 AM
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Baba should be put in that witness protection system & hidden somewhere majuu!!!
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Njung'e
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:01:10 AM
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http://www.the-star.co.k...llion-nys-cash_c1261028

What action can be taken against the named lawyers and did i just see the name of Wailer's best friend.God help!!
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alma1
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:10:31 AM
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The fact is there are two factions in Jubilee. That's why Raila is a great person for them to have around. Someone they can rally around in unison.

When people start going for these corruption stories, you shall see those factions tear each other apart.

Yes, mzee Njunge, Farouk Kibet, an aide to Deputy President William Ruto, recieved Sh1.5 million through Family Bank, Eldoret Branch, according to the star

Fyatu has yet to state what law Raila should be arrested with. What crime is he alleged to have committed.

No money was lost in the Devolution Ministry, they said. Now they are saying they are freezing assets.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Fyatu
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:21:41 AM
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alma1 wrote:
The fact is there are two factions in Jubilee. That's why Raila is a great person for them to have around. Someone they can rally around in unison.

When people start going for these corruption stories, you shall see those factions tear each other apart.

Yes, mzee Njunge, Farouk Kibet, an aide to Deputy President William Ruto, recieved Sh1.5 million through Family Bank, Eldoret Branch, according to the star

Fyatu has yet to state what law Raila should be arrested with. What crime is he alleged to have committed.

No money was lost in the Devolution Ministry, they said. Now they are saying they are freezing assets.



I am not saying baba should be arrested. I am saying that what we need are high profile arrests of high-profile corrupt people (most of them are known). So far no one can point to a thing that Raila has stolen from the people hence no one can arrest him....
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alma1
#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:29:43 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
alma1 wrote:
The fact is there are two factions in Jubilee. That's why Raila is a great person for them to have around. Someone they can rally around in unison.

When people start going for these corruption stories, you shall see those factions tear each other apart.

Yes, mzee Njunge, Farouk Kibet, an aide to Deputy President William Ruto, recieved Sh1.5 million through Family Bank, Eldoret Branch, according to the star

Fyatu has yet to state what law Raila should be arrested with. What crime is he alleged to have committed.

No money was lost in the Devolution Ministry, they said. Now they are saying they are freezing assets.



I am not saying baba should be arrested. I am saying that what we need are high profile arrests of high-profile corrupt people (most of them are known). So far no one can point to a thing that Raila has stolen from the people hence no one can arrest him....


I apologise I got you wrong.

But think about this. The EACC says its going to arrest Raila. Then according to the star, they decided not to do so because they were warned of strikes in the country.

That to me should never have been part of their thinking. If they believed that they were right to warn him of arrest, then they should have done so.

Creating this aura of some people who can't be arrested is the very reason that Raila is calling them a fake commission.

I personally don't see what they would have arrested him for. But at the same time, I'm not the investigating officer. They should have done so whether the country burns or not.

There should never be sacred cows in this country.

So either they found out they goofed or they can't do their work. None of those two leaves a warm feeling in my heart.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Fyatu
#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:52:09 AM
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alma1 wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
alma1 wrote:
The fact is there are two factions in Jubilee. That's why Raila is a great person for them to have around. Someone they can rally around in unison.

When people start going for these corruption stories, you shall see those factions tear each other apart.

Yes, mzee Njunge, Farouk Kibet, an aide to Deputy President William Ruto, recieved Sh1.5 million through Family Bank, Eldoret Branch, according to the star

Fyatu has yet to state what law Raila should be arrested with. What crime is he alleged to have committed.

No money was lost in the Devolution Ministry, they said. Now they are saying they are freezing assets.



I am not saying baba should be arrested. I am saying that what we need are high profile arrests of high-profile corrupt people (most of them are known). So far no one can point to a thing that Raila has stolen from the people hence no one can arrest him....


I apologise I got you wrong.

But think about this. The EACC says its going to arrest Raila. Then according to the star, they decided not to do so because they were warned of strikes in the country.

That to me should never have been part of their thinking. If they believed that they were right to warn him of arrest, then they should have done so.

Creating this aura of some people who can't be arrested is the very reason that Raila is calling them a fake commission.

I personally don't see what they would have arrested him for. But at the same time, I'm not the investigating officer. They should have done so whether the country burns or not.

There should never be sacred cows in this country.

So either they found out they goofed or they can't do their work. None of those two leaves a warm feeling in my heart.


Exactly my point. And this is the irony about the "We shall arrest Raila" stance that they took. Sub-consciously Baba has shown us that EACC cannot arrest big fish...reminds me of those old school Gado cartoons (cliches) where EACC was depicted as a toothless bulldog
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