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A local newspaper says kenya african farmers have gotten ripped off again and again, and for over 50 years. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/wts4huz/-/index.html
Wazuans, how is it, for those who we brought up with proceeds from coffee and those in business. Personally, I plan to plant 4acres in the Kilimambogo area but plan to roast the coffee and market it myself. Any hope?
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majimaji wrote:A local newspaper says kenya african farmers have gotten ripped off again and again, and for over 50 years. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/wts4huz/-/index.html
Wazuans, how is it, for those who we brought up with proceeds from coffee and those in business. Personally, I plan to plant 4acres in the Kilimambogo area but plan to roast the coffee and market it myself. Any hope? http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...aspx?g=posts&t=27974In the world of securities, courage and patience become the supreme virtues after adequate knowledge and a tested judgment are at hand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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TheGeek wrote:[quote=majimaji] A local newspaper says kenya african farmers have gotten ripped off again and again, and for over 50 years. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/wts4huz/-/index.html
Wazuans, how is it, for those who we brought up with proceeds from coffee and those in business. Personally, I plan to plant 4acres in the Kilimambogo area but plan to roast the coffee and market it myself. Any hope? http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...spx?g=posts&t=27974[/quote] @Majimaji There are more rewarding ways to make money, forget about coffee and ignore the link to the thread shared by Thegeek. 99% of the people there are only interested in how they can make money from you.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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matatuman wrote:TheGeek wrote:[quote=majimaji] A local newspaper says kenya african farmers have gotten ripped off again and again, and for over 50 years. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/wts4huz/-/index.html
Wazuans, how is it, for those who we brought up with proceeds from coffee and those in business. Personally, I plan to plant 4acres in the Kilimambogo area but plan to roast the coffee and market it myself. Any hope? http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...spx?g=posts&t=27974[/quote] @Majimaji There are more rewarding ways to make money, forget about coffee and ignore the link to the thread shared by Thegeek. 99% of the people there are only interested in how they can make money from you. It it possible to roast coffee in a an artisanal way and sell it to my neighbours? why do i have to sell my beans to others?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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majimaji wrote:matatuman wrote:TheGeek wrote:[quote=majimaji] A local newspaper says kenya african farmers have gotten ripped off again and again, and for over 50 years. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/wts4huz/-/index.html
Wazuans, how is it, for those who we brought up with proceeds from coffee and those in business. Personally, I plan to plant 4acres in the Kilimambogo area but plan to roast the coffee and market it myself. Any hope? http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...spx?g=posts&t=27974[/quote] @Majimaji There are more rewarding ways to make money, forget about coffee and ignore the link to the thread shared by Thegeek. 99% of the people there are only interested in how they can make money from you. It it possible to roast coffee in a an artisanal way and sell it to my neighbours? why do i have to sell my beans to others? Challenge is the market. Kenya is a tea (not coffee) drinking nation. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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mlennyma wrote:My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. The presidents and their cronies are the mafia. Fortunately for them, the bulk of the tyranny of numbers don’t have clue on the potential of coffee.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Coffee mafia issue very much in the news, like someone with deep pockets is running a campaign. Commodities exchange, anyone??? Life is short. Live passionately.
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mlennyma wrote:My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. Wanjiku never wins. Wanjiku will always loose. Thats just the way it is especially in Kenya and more so in Central. Someone in these forums said, whenever you see Wanjiku investing or buying something run away. There is no one left to fight for her. It is everyone for him/herself. Sad. But true.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mlennyma wrote:My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. blind loyalty really hurts especially matters economics. Other areas keep playing the "marginalized" card but I don't know if they'd have been any better if they had as many presidents from their region given the sycophantic support all politicians seem to have.If farmers got fair returns for coffee, tea and other crops across the country that can have a very good trickle down effect on the economy and shore up the Kenya shilling when the same is exported. It can also help farmers increase their yield without govt subsidies/bailouts every now and then.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. blind loyalty really hurts especially matters economics. Other areas keep playing the "marginalized" card but I don't know if they'd have been any better if they had as many presidents from their region given the sycophantic support all politicians seem to have.If farmers got fair returns for coffee, tea and other crops across the country that can have a very good trickle down effect on the economy and shore up the Kenya shilling when the same is exported. It can also help farmers increase their yield without govt subsidies/bailouts every now and then. the political class is well aware how hard it is to manipulate a rich person so the game will remain keep them as poor as possible "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago. blind loyalty really hurts especially matters economics. Other areas keep playing the "marginalized" card but I don't know if they'd have been any better if they had as many presidents from their region given the sycophantic support all politicians seem to have.If farmers got fair returns for coffee, tea and other crops across the country that can have a very good trickle down effect on the economy and shore up the Kenya shilling when the same is exported. It can also help farmers increase their yield without govt subsidies/bailouts every now and then. the political class is well aware how hard it is to manipulate a rich person so the game will remain keep them as poor as possible they'd also have no "agenda" to campaign on.Its always "if you elect me,I will [insert something that hasn't been done since independence]. From the look of things, the Nyeri governor seems to be a lone ranger in this fight but I wish him all the best.I wish he had more support/pressure not from fellow politicians but from the farmers who stand to benefit the most.
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How possible is this?Quote:Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.
The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:How possible is this?Quote:Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.
The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal. My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"... A New Kenya
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Much Know wrote:Swenani wrote:How possible is this?Quote:Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.
The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal. My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"... Shafting continues. ..
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enyands wrote:Much Know wrote:Swenani wrote:How possible is this?Quote:Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.
The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal. My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"... Shafting continues. .. Not yet independence "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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limanika wrote:Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere One day,one time a true leader will come,and change will reign. at the moment none. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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limanika wrote:Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere Pipe dream.
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matatuman wrote:limanika wrote:Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere Pipe dream. The Govt is part of the problem
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