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Tribulations of a Kenyan contractor doing state jobs...
majimaji
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:10:49 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?
Swenani
#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:24:26 AM
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majimaji wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?


Exactly!That's not a profit!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Kaigangio
#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:06:07 AM
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…After the normal preparations, that is, provision of the surety bond, workmans compensation and the program of works, the contractor delivers them to the project owner (the ministry). A meeting is arranged to discuss the actual site handover, the project commencement date and any other matters related to the roads project. After that meeting the contractor mobilises and takes his machinery and personnel to site.

At the site, a workers camp is constructed including a site office. Once done, the contractor starts to do the road route bush clearance. Back in the ministry, the bosses cannot agree on who should be the clerk of Works (COW) and the Resident Engineer (RE) because of their own personal interest and this goes on for close to six months. In the meantime the contractor at the site does the entire bush clearing along the road route. Once done, the contractor carries out the normal surface excavation in a bid to remove the top soil and in other places getting the levels right. After a couple of days the ministry is hit with an additional works variation equivalent to 10,000 cubic meters of rock excavations valued at kshs 20m!! The ministry does not know what to do with it since there is no personnel from the ministry to verify and measure the quantities as declared by the contractor as the fights within the ministry over the RE are still ranging. Two months later the ministry is hit with yet another rock excavation variation amounting to 18,000 cubic metres valued at ksh 36m!!. This time, the contractor declares that he is going to suspend the works unless the additional works have been approved. The contractor gives a two weeks ultimatum or notice of intention to suspend the works. Also three months down the line since the commencement of the roads project, the contractor has not been paid even a single cent for the works so far done and contained in the previous three works done and payment valuations (the first valuation, kshs 20m…the second valuation, kshs 18m…the third valuation ksh15m).

Three weeks later the contractor suspends the works and immediately sends some of the staff back to Nairobi, but leaves a skeleton staff. At the ministry, the heads are now rolling seriously…No COW and no RE, the contractor has not been paid and to make the matters worse, the contractor has suspended the works!!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:22:45 AM
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majimaji wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly hold your horses mr...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
majimaji
#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:29:58 AM
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so far so good...
Kaigangio
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:30:55 AM
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Swenani wrote:
majimaji wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?


Exactly!That's not a profit!


But, the contractor completed the road project and spent money and had to be paid for the works done…total payments - expenses = profit/losssmile smile
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
alma1
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:34:08 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Swenani wrote:
majimaji wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?


Exactly!That's not a profit!


But, the contractor completed the road project and spent money and had to be paid for the works done…total payments - expenses = profit/losssmile smile


Kaigangio please say there was a road built.....ooohhh please
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Kaigangio
#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:59:42 AM
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alma1 wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Swenani wrote:
majimaji wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


You mean he scammed the taxpayer 70m?


Exactly!That's not a profit!


But, the contractor completed the road project and spent money and had to be paid for the works done…total payments - expenses = profit/losssmile smile


Kaigangio please say there was a road built.....ooohhh please

What do you know @alma1? The road was indeed built...at a cost!!Laughing out loudly
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
UpcomingPaperChaser
#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 4:27:36 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


Acha kutuacha pending aiseh..................kama hii story humaliza basi wee msela nenda zako mdogo mdogo...........no options........faster faster tupe uhondo au tembeza kiatu. na hatuombi by the way!!
Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
Kusadikika
#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:52:09 PM
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Uuuuuuuiiii! Kagizzard tumalizie bwana. The way it is going I can only see a profit coming from the courts where a case is filed, Attorney General does a poor job defending, GOK is made to pay and some lawyers and possibly judges buy a house in Kitisuru with their new found wealth.
Angelica _ann
#31 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:03:25 PM
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Juicy story keep it going..... KNH still pendingsmile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Lolest!
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:42:58 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Uuuuuuuiiii! Kagizzard tumalizie bwana. The way it is going I can only see a profit coming from the courts where a case is filed, Attorney General does a poor job defending, GOK is made to pay and some lawyers and possibly judges buy a house in Kitisuru with their new found wealth.

I know a young state lawyer who's very wealthy from such. He defends GoK shoddily, loses the case, earns his cut
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Kaigangio
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:46:17 AM
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Alright guys!

The contractor did not make a loss of ksh 3m…

Instead he made a total profit of kshs 70m!!!

Don't be shocked...the shocker is coming shortly!


Acha kutuacha pending aiseh..................kama hii story humaliza basi wee msela nenda zako mdogo mdogo...........no options........faster faster tupe uhondo au tembeza kiatu. na hatuombi by the way!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly wewe paper chaser wacha unafik!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:00:50 AM
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…The first week after the suspension of works nothing happens. The second week, nothing. The third week, something happens. A call is made to the contractor from the ministry and a meeting is arranged for the following day. The meeting is branded as urgent. The following day the contractor gathers his contractual arsenal and enough artillery and steps into the ministry’s main board room for the meeting at 1400 hours. Inside the board room, he finds about ten people seated. Some of them are farmiliar and others are not. The contractor is shown where to sit. Some little waiting, the chairman of the meeting joins the panel and the meeting kicks off. After a formal introduction, the ministry lays its demands on the table, after accusing the contractor of abandoning the works. The contractor argues that he has not abandoned the works, but rather suspended it. The contractor says he has worked for four months and three payment valuations amounting to kshs 53m have not been paid, variations amounting to kshs 56m have not been approved despite the works having been executed, no COW to document the site conditions and the report on the progress of works, no RE to supervise the works and giving directions where challenges arise. The chairman is very amazed at what he is hearing from the contractor as this has turned out to be a breach of the contract that the ministry entered into with the contractor by the ministry. Further the contractor says that as the works remains suspended, the idle labour, machinery and plant and remobilization will have to be paid for by the ministry as part of the extended preliminary and general items. Also, the interest accrued on the three valuations whose total value is kshs 53m has to be paid. The chairman confirms that the several previous reports that he has seen and read have indicated that some moneys have been paid for by the ministry for this project, but incidentally nobody in that panel can explain how the money has been paid yet the contractor has not received anything!! After a lot of deliberations, the contractor completely declines to go back to site and carry on with the works until the payment issue is sorted by the ministry. The meeting ends in a stale mate and the chairman promises to call another meeting in the cause of the week.
…As the works remains suspended for the fourth week a call is made to the contractor on a Thursday from the most unusual quarters. The voice in that call is one that the MD has heard before lastly in Pretoria, South Africa. They arrange for a meeting the following day, not in the ministry offices, but in Windsor hotel where the project evaluators previously made the MD’s forehead run wet with beads of thin sweat. As the contractor turns the lock and pushes the door into the meeting room at 10:00am, he finds five men sitting around an oval shaped table with their eyes all trained on him…They are all familiar faces, the first three were the “outsiders” who do not work in the ministry, and the other two are senior ministry officials. The contractor takes his seat. After a brief un-necessary introduction the bossy gentleman from the unique trio starts off by urging the contractor to be considerate and not to bite the hand that feeds him. The contractor retorts that it is his wish to do the right thing, but as a farmer they are breaking his hands. Everybody laughs sarcastically.
The bossy gentleman looks at his close companions and then the ministry officials and then the contractor. He throws his right hand inside the left hand pocket of his deep blue coat and draws out a small brown envelope which he places on the table. Again he looks at the other men and the ministry officials before shifting his gaze to the contractor. He picks the envelope, opens it and takes out three cheques. He looks at them cheques, looks at the four men and finally looks at the contractor, and holding the full unfolded cheques, he asks the contractor, “How much?” The contractor looks at the five men and the cheques and then asks the bossy man, “You don’t seem to have been satisfied with what you have been treated to so far?” The man retorts, “you know what chief, the teeth have multiplied and become much longer. Besides, the berries have increased in number and sizes and we believe there should be a corresponding increase in input for attainment of the same level of satisfaction. So how much?”
After a brief negotiation, they settle at kshs 2m which the contractor promises to deliver the following day, upon which he would be given the cheques. The following day, the contractor in the same room, the same five people, places a bulging black polythene paper on the oval table and tells the bossy man to count. After saying no need, the man hands the brown envelope to the contractor and the contractor confirms the presence of the three cheques. After a brief exchange the contractor agrees to write to the ministry to confirm that he would remobolise in one weeks time. As the contractor is leaving the meeting room, he decides to open the envelope and take out the cheques. The first cheque is for an amount of kshs 20m dated four months before the present date, the second cheque is in the amount of kshs 18m is dated three months before the present date and the third cheque in the amount ksh 15m is dated two months before the present date. The contractor frowns and curses those "sons of bitches" for taking him through the thin. Even after receiving the cheques worth kshs 53m, the contractors financial problems/woes are far from over…
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
limanika
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:24:57 AM
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Overall thread title should have been 'tribulations of taxpayer'. Oftentimes these contracting companies were formed by same govt officials thro proxy, hence they happily ride through these 'tribulations '
Baratang
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:48:19 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
…Even after receiving the cheques worth kshs 53m, the contractors financial problems/woes are far from over…

That is a lot of money the contractor has received. Why would the contractor still be in problems at least on this job?d'oh! d'oh!


Othelo
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:03:46 PM
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Baratang wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
…Even after receiving the cheques worth kshs 53m, the contractors financial problems/woes are far from over…

That is a lot of money the contractor has received. Why would the contractor still be in problems at least on this job?d'oh! d'oh!



Boss tuliza boli..... smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Kaigangio
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:17:55 PM
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limanika wrote:
Overall thread title should have been 'tribulations of taxpayer'. Oftentimes these contracting companies were formed by same govt officials thro proxy, hence they happily ride through these 'tribulations '

@limanika...the guy who is actually facing tribulations here is the contractor. Sadly, the tribulations are coming from the taxpayers themselves.Sad Sad

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#39 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:30:08 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Baratang wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
…Even after receiving the cheques worth kshs 53m, the contractors financial problems/woes are far from over…

That is a lot of money the contractor has received. Why would the contractor still be in problems at least on this job?d'oh! d'oh!



Boss tuliza boli..... smile

@baratang...You see at an average mark up of 15% the contractor has spent about kshs 46m on materials and labour. Don't forget before the contract started, the contractor had already spent kshs 21m. And then during the grand receiving of the cheques kshs 2m was expended. So total expenditure to date is actually kshs 69m.

As of now the profit so far is kshs 53-kshs 69 = kshs -16m

The contractor is still down by kshs 16m, meaning he has not broken even yet.Sad


...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Baratang
#40 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:55:19 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Baratang wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
…Even after receiving the cheques worth kshs 53m, the contractors financial problems/woes are far from over…

That is a lot of money the contractor has received. Why would the contractor still be in problems at least on this job?d'oh! d'oh!



Boss tuliza boli..... smile

@baratang...You see at an average mark up of 15% the contractor has spent about kshs 46m on materials and labour. Don't forget before the contract started, the contractor had already spent kshs 21m. And then during the grand receiving of the cheques kshs 2m was expended. So total expenditure to date is actually kshs 69m.

As of now the profit so far is kshs 53-kshs 69 = kshs -16m

The contractor is still down by kshs 16m, meaning he has not broken even yet.Sad



Woooiiii!! Poor contractor.
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