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I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
I believe that there must be procedures the surgeon undertakes to confirm that the patient he is about to operate is the right one. Even a mechanic doesn't overhaul the engine of any car he finds with the bonnet open in his yard - and then blames watu wa mkono. He has to first confirm that he is overhauling the right engine.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
I believe that there must be procedures the surgeon undertakes to confirm that the patient he is about to operate is the right one. Even a mechanic doesn't overhaul the engine of any car he finds with the bonnet open in his yard - and then blames watu wa mkono. He has to first confirm that he is overhauling the right engine. a butcher does not socialize with the cattle he is about to work on! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
I believe that there must be procedures the surgeon undertakes to confirm that the patient he is about to operate is the right one. Even a mechanic doesn't overhaul the engine of any car he finds with the bonnet open in his yard - and then blames watu wa mkono. He has to first confirm that he is overhauling the right engine. a butcher does not socialize with the cattle he is about to work on! A butcher may not, but a vet must know his cow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
I believe that there must be procedures the surgeon undertakes to confirm that the patient he is about to operate is the right one. Even a mechanic doesn't overhaul the engine of any car he finds with the bonnet open in his yard - and then blames watu wa mkono. He has to first confirm that he is overhauling the right engine. a butcher does not socialize with the cattle he is about to work on! A butcher may not, but a vet must know his cow. who said those guys are vets? check out the Title of this thread All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,697
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Koros And Clinical Services guy suspended "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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 c&p twitter Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:Koros And Clinical Services guy suspended Great. The buck must stop somewhere.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,697
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Mistakes like these are easy to fix. They can be fixed with processes and checklists. The problem with KNH and in healthcare in general is that there is hierarchy that is maintained by Huuuuuuuuge egos. There are people who are hard to talk to and cannot be corrected.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Shida ya Pre-Matiang'i graduates. Quite a number of the so called doctors cheated their way to and through med school. The Surgeons are only qualified to be nurses at best while nurses should be the sweepers. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
You're among the few wazuans with a brain. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Swenani wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
You're among the few wazuans with a brain. Lucky him.He hasn't been to KNH otherwise they would sliced off some of it. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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kaka2za wrote:Shida ya Pre-Matiang'i graduates. Quite a number of the so called doctors cheated their way to and through med school.
The Surgeons are only qualified to be nurses at best while nurses should be the sweepers. Kenya has some of the best doctors in Africa. Don't mix up safety issues at KNH with doctors qualification If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Swenani wrote:kaka2za wrote:Shida ya Pre-Matiang'i graduates. Quite a number of the so called doctors cheated their way to and through med school.
The Surgeons are only qualified to be nurses at best while nurses should be the sweepers. Kenya has some of the best doctors in Africa. Don't mix up safety issues at KNH with doctors qualification Kenya had the best doctors before 2005. Then we started dishing out grade A like confetti. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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The problem at KNH IMHO is not the doctor's but rather the administrative and bureaucratic structures. Here the doctors have no say in how things function eg how dead bodies are removed from wards and the small protocols on how admission and patient care is undertaken. This is the reserve of the likes of Koros and co......who must ensure the simplest protocols are adhered to to the letter.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,274 Location: Kenya
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kaka2za wrote:Swenani wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:
I refuse to blame the neuro-surgeon, but rather the medic staff who prepare the patient for the theatre table.
How would the neuro-surgeon have known the patient who had been wheeled into the theatre and lay partially covered on the table is the right or wrong one, until he opened up the cranium and saw no blood clot?
You're among the few wazuans with a brain. Lucky him.He hasn't been to KNH otherwise they would sliced off some of it. @intelligent, just like a pilot. A surgeon does not just walk into a theatre and operates... As @kusadikika says, there are processes and checklists, did he go through that? The problem is Huuuuuuuuge egos, where the surgeon feels he shouldn't go through the "usual" procedures. As @kusadikika says: these are people who are hard to talk to and cannot be corrected. Can you imagine a pilot who feels he does not need to go through the checklist, just because it is the job of the men on the ground to fuel the plane! How intelligent can that be @intelligent?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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 This guy has just remembered he has been to KNH Public ward for head injuries All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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By 2022, these idiots will have made luto unelectable..... Quote:Bring back Koros or you will be axed, Kericho MPs tell CS https://www.the-star.co....cho-mps-tell-cs_c1724345
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