As sad as the issue is, you have a very narrow focus on real issues. There is nothing personal that any politician from any divide would have done to prevent Madaga's situation from happening other than the medical staff and administration at KNH. You keep barking about tribalism, whilst its a genuine concern IT IS NOT THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL PROBLEMS!

Read the stories below and tell me how TRIBALISM influenced it.






The reason I have randomly quoted stories from the internet is because your tired one line narrative that tribalism is to blame for all our problems and that people like me (as if you personally know me) are responsible is as lame as they come. If you do not want to be challenged on the validity of your arguments its better you keep to your arm chair analysis of Kenyan football where you think Nyamweya is the problem.

Look who is talking.The king of hate and tribalism in this republic.

As sad as the issue is, you have a very narrow focus on real issues. There is nothing personal that any politician from any divide would have done to prevent Madaga's situation from happening other than the medical staff and administration at KNH. You keep barking about tribalism, whilst its a genuine concern IT IS NOT THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL PROBLEMS!

Read the stories below and tell me how TRIBALISM influenced it.






The reason I have randomly quoted stories from the internet is because your tired one line narrative that tribalism is to blame for all our problems and that people like me (as if you personally know me) are responsible is as lame as they come. If you do not want to be challenged on the validity of your arguments its better you keep to your arm chair analysis of Kenyan football where you think Nyamweya is the problem.

I find it utterly laughable that the tribalism apologists : peterreborn and kratos are defending Kenyan mediocrity by pointing to the west.

I have gone to hospitals in North America numerous times. I have gone to Kenyan hospitals as well.

Trust me the level of chronic incompetence that you see in Kenya is unthinkable in North America.

That is not to say that hospitals in the west make some mistakes. Of course they do. But they are not chronically incompetent. And people who do not do their jobs are held accountable.

I have relatives who are trying to get cancer treatment at Kenyatta. It is an ordeal. People have to wait months to get chemotherapy. And many hospital staff have a "don't care attitude so followup on treatment can be spotty.

Ask yourself why many Kenyans are doing harambees to go to India for cancer treatment and other treatments.

If we were issue based voters, the president would make it a priority to fix kenyatta hospital and the health system as a whole. But he does not have to because Kenyans will vote on tribal basis anyway

If Kratos and peter-reborn try to compare Kenyan health system to the North American ones, please do them justice and laugh at them. It is comical and is very poor logic.

Its like saying Harambee Stars losing to Comoros and Lesotho at home is OK because Germany the world champions also lose sometimes.

@PeterReborn - We can agree to disagree but if we don't agree on the issues it will be difficult to commit to any solution(s) while being driven by conflicting individual and group interests.

Unless we can agree on and be driven by a 'higher' purpose/values,I think we will continue to get along(when necessary or convenient) for the opportunity to get ahead even if it is at the expense of others.

The family of an accident survivor who spent 18 hours in an ambulance will this morning decide whether to switch off life support and allow him to die.

Family members said doctors had lost hope that Mr Alex Madaga will come out of a coma and the hospital has counselled them to accept his possible death.

His wife, however, clings to the hope that her husband of one year will recover.

“The doctors have counselled me, saying that there is no hope but I know his condition might change, it is now in God’s hands,” said the wife, Ms Jessica Moraa.

His father, Mr Bainito Matini Cheni, 63, has sent for his wife and she is expected from Mbale, their upcountry home this morning. Together, they will decide whether to switch off the life support machine.

“They have said there is no hope. They say blood has clotted in his brain but his heart is beating okay. I asked them to switch off the machines because I don’t think my son is there any more,” he said in an interview with the Nation after seeing his son breathing with the assistance of a ventilator.

According to Ms Moraa, this is the second tragedy to hit the family after the couple lost their nine-month-old baby less than five months ago.

The KNH management also defended its actions, saying that Mr Madaga was admitted in their Critical Care Unit because a bed was available but not because of the intervention of the patient’s family members as alleged by Ms Moraa and her family.

“We even gave them oxygen cylinders as they waited for a bed,” said Mr Simon Ithae, the hospital’s communications officer.

He supported the statement by the hospital’s deputy director clinical services, Dr Simeon Monda, that there was neither a bed nor a ventilator machine to help the patient breathe.

Dr Monda said: “The ambulance was the safest place for him to be at the time because it had the necessary equipment. We only have 21 ICU beds for the over 2,500 patients admitted in KNH daily.”

CASH PAYMENT

Two private hospitals that Mr Madaga’s wife claimed would not admit her husband without a cash payment of at least Sh200,000 clarified that they too, like KNH, could not admit the patient because they did not have a free bed in the ICU.

They denied claims that they turned away the patient because his relatives did not have the money to pay the deposit.

Nairobi Women’s Hospital’s public relation officer, Mr Johnson Mwinzi, said the hospital has a policy where “a patient is admitted first and then payment is followed up later”.

“Indeed, Kikuyu Mission Hospital referred four patients to our facility at Adams Arcade Branch but they only picked two patients because we only have three ICU beds and one was already occupied and thus Mr Madaga was referred elsewhere.”

Mr Madaga had been referred to the hospital from Kikuyu Mission Hospital on Monday night after the hit-and-run accident in Kangemi.

Ms Moraa and the paramedics who took care of Mr Madaga in the ambulance said they had sought assistance at two other hospitals on Ngong Road but were turned away at both.

However, the hospitals yesterday said they had no record indicating that Mr Madaga was taken there and, therefore, could not comment on the allegations.

Mr Madaga had critical injuries and his chances of survival were not helped by being denied intensive care for 18 hours.

I find it utterly laughable that the tribalism apologists : peterreborn and kratos are defending Kenyan mediocrity by pointing to the west.

I have gone to hospitals in North America numerous times. I have gone to Kenyan hospitals as well.

Trust me the level of chronic incompetence that you see in Kenya is unthinkable in North America.

That is not to say that hospitals in the west make some mistakes. Of course they do. But they are not chronically incompetent. And people who do not do their jobs are held accountable.

I have relatives who are trying to get cancer treatment at Kenyatta. It is an ordeal. People have to wait months to get chemotherapy. And many hospital staff have a "don't care attitude so followup on treatment can be spotty.

Ask yourself why many Kenyans are doing harambees to go to India for cancer treatment and other treatments.

If we were issue based voters, the president would make it a priority to fix kenyatta hospital and the health system as a whole. But he does not have to because Kenyans will vote on tribal basis anyway

If Kratos and peter-reborn try to compare Kenyan health system to the North American ones, please do them justice and laugh at them. It is comical and is very poor logic.

Its like saying Harambee Stars losing to Comoros and Lesotho at home is OK because Germany the world champions also lose sometimes.