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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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We need a food revolution "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:[quote=hardwood]Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. http://englishenglish.bi...14/01/Sunday-Dinner.jpg
My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. https://img-global.cpcdn.../1200x630cq70/photo.jpg[/quote] I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Ugali on it's own is so bila imagination... 0 creativity steps to cook ugali 1) boil water 2) pour flour into water 3) stir 4) wait 5) repeat 2, 3 and 4 until the house stinks Kumbe Italians have already done what I was recommending i.e upgrading ugali, and ugali comes in many shapes and fashions. All we need is imagination. Ugali chips  Ugali chips and steak  Ugali sukuma with shrimp a.k.a Polenta Bruschetta with Shrimp and Spinach Pesto Ugali lasagna  Ugali with mushroom  Polentapizza von Fanca  Orange & almond polenta cake 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner.  My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma.  I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals.  Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour  End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji.  Polenta (Italian - European) Unga  Meal  Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I want to import some ugali making machines (kama hiyo nimeweka hapo juu) from Italy and I want you @masukuma (and wazuans) to be one of my customers. Bei is less than a ching chong smart phone.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. Ugali doesn't impress me much. Of course if I stay too long without it I eat and it's tasty but after that.... meh!!! Asia is everything when it comes to meals... even a poor Asian eats better than a rich European All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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masukuma wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. Ugali doesn't impress me much. Of course if I stay too long without it I eat and it's tasty but after that.... meh!!! Asia is everything when it comes to meals... even a poor Asian eats better than a rich European Asia is close to being as big as Africa if not bigger as far as food is concerned. Asia's staple food is white rice - Wali ukipenda na ndengu Ndengu can be stored of kept to grow sprouts to make noodles. the dish looks like this   Vietnamese make noodles from rice (pho) brought to the table with some herbs, hot soup and some rawish meat  So what Asia? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. Ugali doesn't impress me much. Of course if I stay too long without it I eat and it's tasty but after that.... meh!!! Asia is everything when it comes to meals... even a poor Asian eats better than a rich European Asia is close to being as big as Africa if not bigger as far as food is concerned. Asia's staple food is white rice - Wali ukipenda na ndengu Ndengu can be stored of kept to grow sprouts to make noodles. the dish looks like this Vietnamese make noodles from rice (pho) brought to the table with some herbs, hot soup and some rawish meat So what Asia? Boss you are looking for it... Anything in Asia is better than Ugali! Even a plain chilli is better than ugali. People be more imaginative... Steps to cook ugali 1) add maize flour to boiling water 2) stir 3) smell 4) go to 1 or 2 above 5) serve Please... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. Ugali doesn't impress me much. Of course if I stay too long without it I eat and it's tasty but after that.... meh!!! Asia is everything when it comes to meals... even a poor Asian eats better than a rich European Asia is close to being as big as Africa if not bigger as far as food is concerned. Asia's staple food is white rice - Wali ukipenda na ndengu Ndengu can be stored of kept to grow sprouts to make noodles. the dish looks like this Vietnamese make noodles from rice (pho) brought to the table with some herbs, hot soup and some rawish meat So what Asia? Boss you are looking for it... Anything in Asia is better than Ugali! Even a plain chilli is better than ugali. People be more imaginative... Steps to cook ugali 1) add maize flour to boiling water 2) stir 3) smell 4) go to 1 or 2 above 5) serve Please... Chili is spice not food. Now you can say you like spiced food which is ok but ugali is the substitute to rice any wheaty food, roti bread or noodles Not everyone makes ugali as you, there are those who salt it, add butter, cook with milk instead of water. In short you are the Michael Angelo of your Ugali. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Even mzungu eats dinner like us (ie nyama na sukuma/cabbage) but because he doesnt have ugali, he uses waru a.k.a potato in various forms (eg mashed potato, roast potato, fried, chips etc) as the starch source. And maybe some pudding. He then adds some carrots and french beans to make the meal colorful and appetizing. In asia they use rice instead. In Italy pasta. So did @masukuma upgrade from ugali to waru a.k.a potato? Traditional British dinner. My dinner ugali na beef, sukuma. I know it's an emotive issue and I am opening a pandora's box when saying this but really... can someone tell me what ugali tastes like? really!! it's indoctrination of the highest order! if you discovered ugali when you are older do you think you would have liked it? just a ki-thick paste! 0 flavour! Kabisa.... what is the taste of ugali... afadhali viazi. Jiulize ni kwa nini ni nyinyi mnakula hiyo ugali na ambao waliwaletea hawakuli ila wanalisha farasi ama kutengeneza ethanol na hiyo kitu. There are so many starches in the world... Wheat, Potatoes, Rice... plus ukizeeka kama mimi huhitaji too much carbs so wacha ikae. Ugali ni chakula ya jela! Hata mzungu sikuhizi anakula chakula ya wahindi... discover asian dishes and you will look back at that ki-paste that stinks up your house with disdain. P.s. IT'S NOT AFRICAN FOOD... MAIZE WAS BROUGHT HERE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO. IT WAS A LATIN AMERICAN GRAIN. Afadhali hao mexicans hujaribu na hizo tacos zao. But we used to eat ugali made of millet and sorghum/cassava before mzungu brought maize. Thus ugali is older than maize. Maybe what we should think about is how to make ugali tastier. Just like the way asians add spices to their rice or mzungu adds butter and salt to his mashed potatoes. Thus to make "upgraded ugali" you could use 50/50 water:milk, then add some roiko and salt and some spices kama zile za pilau. The resulting ugali would be tasty even if taken alone. I have also seen ugali chips where the ugali is sliced into chips, dipped into some egg (ile imekorogwa) and deep fried before serving. Or we could make ugali chapati (tortillas) like the mexicans do. Also note that ugali is not supposed to be eaten alone, just like asians dont eat rice alone or msungu doesnt eat potato or spaghheti alone. Ugali needs to be accompanied by some meat and vegetables like other meals. Someone hijacked Mavegges kitchen and completely colonized his taste buds eventually changing his view of food. Just as an FYI - Apart from the waru which i would compare to our mukimo kimanga or matoke. Mzungu's equivalent of ugali like food is gritz which is almost like Njenga and Polenta which is more firm and ugali like. Grits (Mostly American) Can be eaten as breakfast, lunch or dinner. Flour End product. Its made abit wet if its breakfast....kama uji. Polenta (Italian - European) Unga Meal Ofcourse mzungu plays with his recipes so there are various variations of Polenta and grits that you can get out there. Yes... people should try harder! And plus... Mzungus (with the exception of a few groups) are also as unimaginative in food matters just like us. For real eating experiences - go to Asia! Now those are people who know that each meal is an important meal. No need to try harder, you actually shock me. Go to western, ocha huko ndani. Get a Lunje mamaa to make you an ugali-greens meal. You'll eat your fingers. Most of mzungu foods are useless, so tasteless and unfulfilling, so much so that you start missing Kenya on Day 1. Asian foods maybe... The variety is astounding, with a very rich variety of spices. But you saying Ugali is tasteless/for the lazy cooks sijui nini........that allegation is deep. A Majority of Kenyans must therefore be missing taste buds or are crazy. Ugali doesn't impress me much. Of course if I stay too long without it I eat and it's tasty but after that.... meh!!! Asia is everything when it comes to meals... even a poor Asian eats better than a rich European Asia is close to being as big as Africa if not bigger as far as food is concerned. Asia's staple food is white rice - Wali ukipenda na ndengu Ndengu can be stored of kept to grow sprouts to make noodles. the dish looks like this Vietnamese make noodles from rice (pho) brought to the table with some herbs, hot soup and some rawish meat So what Asia? Boss you are looking for it... Anything in Asia is better than Ugali! Even a plain chilli is better than ugali. People be more imaginative... Steps to cook ugali 1) add maize flour to boiling water 2) stir 3) smell 4) go to 1 or 2 above 5) serve Please... Chili is spice not food. Now you can say you like spiced food which is ok but ugali is the substitute to rice any wheaty food, roti bread or noodles Not everyone makes ugali as you, there are those who salt it, add butter, cook with milk instead of water. In short you are the Michael Angelo of your Ugali. Wole Soyinka once said "A tiger does not proclaim his tigritude, he pounces"... you cannot convince me of Ugali... I have eaten that pasty stuff all my life... if there was anything Ugali would have done to change my mind - it would have done it a long time ago! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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If this is what they serve in asia, and is what makes @masukuma salivate, let me stick to my dry fry or wet fry nyama and ugali. That asian food is too maji maji and looks terrible and unappetizing. The meat looks raw. Also where is the starch or it's those tiny noodles? Can one get sleep after eating noodles? One needs a lump of ugali to stretch the stomach and feel satisfied.
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hardwood wrote:If this is what they serve in asia, and is what makes @masukuma salivate, let me stick to my dry fry or wet fry nyama and ugali. That asian food is too maji maji and looks terrible and unappetizing. The meat looks raw. Also where is the starch or it's those tiny noodles? Can one get sleep after eating noodles? One needs a lump of ugali to stretch the stomach and feel satisfied. Maybe mavegges never meant to imply this dish from Vietnam. But Japanese have sushi, again rice with some vinegar wrapped on fish or some veggies/fruits with some salt and sugar seasoning   @hardwood you should shock your taste buds sometimes "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Those who live to eat are also ugali machines...
Starch is 'tasteless'. Why is my mouth watering?
Or how is it that saltless avocado and ugali inatembea tu vizuri?
Or ugali dipped in sugar? Or honey?
Siku moja jaribu ugali na ngwaci. Na katurungi bira shukari.
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masukuma wrote: Wole Soyinka once said "A tiger does not proclaim his tigritude, he pounces"... you cannot convince me of Ugali... I have eaten that pasty stuff all my life... if there was anything Ugali would have done to change my mind - it would have done it a long time ago! @Masukuma, usidharau ugali because of how it was made at your place. Mimi nilidharau githeri because of how it was made. My mum is the most unimaginative person when it comes to food and her favorite food was githeri which had 4 ingredients water, maize, beans, salt and occasionally some potatoes would be dropped in. No spices, no nothing. Even the githeri I ate in school tasted better. So my escape food was ugali because the mboga even if badly cooked had some better taste. It is only late in life that I could bring myself to eat githeri again when I discovered it can be made delicious. Give yourself a chance and find a good Luhya or Luo woman akupikie Ugali na samaki or Ugali na mrenda. While we are on this topic Mark Wiens probably has the best job in the world and he thinks everything in the world is tasty. He eats everything.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Yaani, mtu anaeza bembelezwa kula ugali?
Kweli dunia ina mambo.
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tycho wrote:Yaani, mtu anaeza bembelezwa kula ugali?
Kweli dunia ina mambo. Eh... na akatae!!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:Yaani, mtu anaeza bembelezwa kula ugali?
Kweli dunia ina mambo. Eh... na akatae!!! No problem. Vyakula ni vingi. Anjera iko pia. Unaeza kuja na yako pia...
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Chapo inafaa kupikwa Kwa Jiko update president set president = speaker where president is null
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