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Uchumi CEO & CFO fired.......
xyzee
#1 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 9:16:50 PM
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I thought Ciano was a geneous. what happened?

had he stepped down 2 years ago he'd be a legend....
masukuma
#2 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 9:26:14 PM
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xyzee wrote:
I thought Ciano was a geneous. what happened?

had he stepped down 2 years ago he'd be a legend....

hawa ndio nani? people who give genes?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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#3 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 9:32:21 PM
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He had been overrated.

I once attended one of his motivational talks and I felt he was a wanna be of some sort . His examples were quite idealistic yet hevwanted to pass them as real and relating to him.

There was nothing out of the ordinary.
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#4 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 10:47:54 PM
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:31:57 AM
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I watched him speak once and in the Q&A. He was actually advocating for overhauling of all middle to senior management in cases where a business is not doing well. Thereafter I thought he must have been a real @$$.

After he turned around a failing Uchumi, he should have made a succession plan and left. The personality of this kind of leaders who turns a business around (making some seemingly harsh decisions in the process) is not the kind of guy you want at the helm when the plan is growth.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:52:52 AM
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And to imagine he was being touted as possible MD for Mr Reddy kilowatt 😐😕😑

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:54:01 AM
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masukuma wrote:
xyzee wrote:
I thought Ciano was a geneous. what happened?

had he stepped down 2 years ago he'd be a legend....

hawa ndio nani? people who give genes?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


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Wamunyota
#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:11:22 AM
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Ciano is a brilliant man.He is a great strategist but poor in operations.He should have left after turning around Uchumi.Uchumi is still run as a parastatal.Things have changed and there is competition all over but Uchumi never adjusted to the changes in the environment.In fact small supermarkets like Maathai are now taking over uchumi's market share.
The supermarket is boring and doesnt attract the yolung generation.They need to hire some young guys who will inject the energy required.They also need to stop investing in Longterm assets which is unstrategic.They need to learn from Nakumatt which is the largest leasing company in East Africa.Lease your assets and use the cash to purchase the inventory.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:51:04 AM
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Kenyans are funny. Why are you rushing to sell Uchumi now? Let me give you an African analogy. If your cow has been sick and after several doctors you still dint know whats ailing your cow. You probably will start looking for someone to buy it at a throw away price. But Suddenly the disease is properly diagnosed and treatment started. Wouldnt you change your mind and wait as there is now hope that your cow will be healed and will be worth more in a few months? Tafakari hayo!
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:34:46 PM
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Which is the subset of the other. Turn around artist and con artist.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:14:19 PM
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instinct wrote:
Kenyans are funny. Why are you rushing to sell Uchumi now? Let me give you an African analogy. If your cow has been sick and after several doctors you still dint know whats ailing your cow. You probably will start looking for someone to buy it at a throw away price. But Suddenly the disease is properly diagnosed and treatment started. Wouldnt you change your mind and wait as there is now hope that your cow will be healed and will be worth more in a few months? Tafakari hayo!

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:38:38 PM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
Which is the subset of the other. Turn around artist and con artist.

Doesn't matter, at end of day Wanjiku is defrauded!!!
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:37:28 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Ciano is a brilliant man.He is a great strategist but poor in operations.He should have left after turning around Uchumi.Uchumi is still run as a parastatal.Things have changed and there is competition all over but Uchumi never adjusted to the changes in the environment.In fact small supermarkets like Maathai are now taking over uchumi's market share.
The supermarket is boring and doesnt attract the yolung generation.They need to hire some young guys who will inject the energy required.They also need to stop investing in Longterm assets which is unstrategic.They need to learn from Nakumatt which is the largest leasing company in East Africa.Lease your assets and use the cash to purchase the inventory.


Agreed. Iko kitu inaitwa Public Procurement Act which effectively hamstrings someone competing in the FMCG space. The gava should exempt Uchumi from the State Corporations Act or sell enough shares to lose control, ama anyone else coming in under the same environment will meet the same waterloo.
That said, I suspect there were serious corporate governance issues and the board sacked JC to cover their backsides. Why couldn't they just retire someone who had a month to go?
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:38:14 PM
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obiero wrote:
instinct wrote:
Kenyans are funny. Why are you rushing to sell Uchumi now? Let me give you an African analogy. If your cow has been sick and after several doctors you still dint know whats ailing your cow. You probably will start looking for someone to buy it at a throw away price. But Suddenly the disease is properly diagnosed and treatment started. Wouldnt you change your mind and wait as there is now hope that your cow will be healed and will be worth more in a few months? Tafakari hayo!

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:42:29 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
instinct wrote:
Kenyans are funny. Why are you rushing to sell Uchumi now? Let me give you an African analogy. If your cow has been sick and after several doctors you still dint know whats ailing your cow. You probably will start looking for someone to buy it at a throw away price. But Suddenly the disease is properly diagnosed and treatment started. Wouldnt you change your mind and wait as there is now hope that your cow will be healed and will be worth more in a few months? Tafakari hayo!

My signature foretold all of wazua

d'oh! d'oh! I can't put my finger on it but there's one stock/firm missing in your list Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

May it be the one that has risen by 11% in last two days? :)

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:43:21 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
instinct wrote:
Kenyans are funny. Why are you rushing to sell Uchumi now? Let me give you an African analogy. If your cow has been sick and after several doctors you still dint know whats ailing your cow. You probably will start looking for someone to buy it at a throw away price. But Suddenly the disease is properly diagnosed and treatment started. Wouldnt you change your mind and wait as there is now hope that your cow will be healed and will be worth more in a few months? Tafakari hayo!

My signature foretold all of wazua

d'oh! d'oh! I can't put my finger on it but there's one stock/firm missing in your list Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

and it's not KQ!smile
instinct
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:58:53 PM
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i went shopping at Uchumi today. Mombasa Rd branch. The shelves were well stocked unlike my visit there the day POTUS arrived. surprisingly i found all the items on my shopping list, 6000 worth. Staff were courteous unlike a month ago. Seems they're back to near normal operation at least. Has shortlisting for new CEO been done?
Chaka
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:58:11 PM
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instinct wrote:
i went shopping at Uchumi today. Mombasa Rd branch. The shelves were well stocked unlike my visit there the day POTUS arrived. surprisingly i found all the items on my shopping list, 6000 worth. Staff were courteous unlike a month ago. Seems they're back to near normal operation at least. Has shortlisting for new CEO been done?

Nice to hear that.How much did you pay for parking?These guys should find a way to offset parking fee vs the 6k spent..maybe refunding the fee via uchumi card?
dunkang
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:12:58 PM
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Also went to Uchumi Koinange and saw lots of change, including attitude, staff, speed etc.
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instinct
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:22:24 PM
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Chaka wrote:
instinct wrote:
i went shopping at Uchumi today. Mombasa Rd branch. The shelves were well stocked unlike my visit there the day POTUS arrived. surprisingly i found all the items on my shopping list, 6000 worth. Staff were courteous unlike a month ago. Seems they're back to near normal operation at least. Has shortlisting for new CEO been done?

Nice to hear that.How much did you pay for parking?These guys should find a way to offset parking fee vs the 6k spent..maybe refunding the fee via uchumi card?



Yeah that bit sucked. Kwanza i dint have coins!
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