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beatification of Sister Irene Nyaatha
Wamunyota
#1 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 9:46:47 AM
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Six witnesses had to confirm whether the special wax seals had been tampered with and after the casket was removed from the tomb like box, they went round the wooden casket confirming and counterchecking whether they were intact.

And all, starting with Archbishop Kairu confirmed the seals were intact.

Jubilation and ululation from Catholic Faithful who had flocked in to witness the event after attending a mass at the same venue filled the Mathari Old Chapel, confirming the beatification ceremony had started.

“We are really happy and excited that our prayer and wish has come true. We now hope another miracle will be realized soon so that Sister Irene can be declared a saint,” said Fr Mutahi.

Before removing the casket, Archbishop Kairu blessed the dais at Dedan Kimathi grounds where the main ceremony will be conducted on Saturday.

The journey to sainthood
Hutia Mundu!!
Swenani
#2 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 9:50:32 AM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Six witnesses had to confirm whether the special wax seals had been tampered with and after the casket was removed from the tomb like box, they went round the wooden casket confirming and counterchecking whether they were intact.

And all, starting with Archbishop Kairu confirmed the seals were intact.

Jubilation and ululation from Catholic Faithful who had flocked in to witness the event after attending a mass at the same venue filled the Mathari Old Chapel, confirming the beatification ceremony had started.

“We are really happy and excited that our prayer and wish has come true. We now hope another miracle will be realized soon so that Sister Irene can be declared a saint,” said Fr Mutahi.

Before removing the casket, Archbishop Kairu blessed the dais at Dedan Kimathi grounds where the main ceremony will be conducted on Saturday.

The journey to sainthood


Is it necessary,why cant she be made a saint without exhuming her body?What value does sainthood add?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Wamunyota
#3 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 10:05:17 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Six witnesses had to confirm whether the special wax seals had been tampered with and after the casket was removed from the tomb like box, they went round the wooden casket confirming and counterchecking whether they were intact.

And all, starting with Archbishop Kairu confirmed the seals were intact.

Jubilation and ululation from Catholic Faithful who had flocked in to witness the event after attending a mass at the same venue filled the Mathari Old Chapel, confirming the beatification ceremony had started.

“We are really happy and excited that our prayer and wish has come true. We now hope another miracle will be realized soon so that Sister Irene can be declared a saint,” said Fr Mutahi.

Before removing the casket, Archbishop Kairu blessed the dais at Dedan Kimathi grounds where the main ceremony will be conducted on Saturday.

The journey to sainthood


Is it necessary,why cant she be made a saint without exhuming her body?What value does sainthood add?


It is a prerequisite for the ceremony.Sainthood is the greatest recognition for a servant of God.
The ceremony has also ensured growth in biachara huko Nyeli.
Biachala booms huko Nyeli
Hutia Mundu!!
Jitahidi
#4 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 10:15:36 AM
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It's a rigorous process....DN says there is even a devils' advocate to critic the proposed saints looking for tiny mistakes
jaggernaut
#5 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 10:31:50 AM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Six witnesses had to confirm whether the special wax seals had been tampered with and after the casket was removed from the tomb like box, they went round the wooden casket confirming and counterchecking whether they were intact.

And all, starting with Archbishop Kairu confirmed the seals were intact.

Jubilation and ululation from Catholic Faithful who had flocked in to witness the event after attending a mass at the same venue filled the Mathari Old Chapel, confirming the beatification ceremony had started.

“We are really happy and excited that our prayer and wish has come true. We now hope another miracle will be realized soon so that Sister Irene can be declared a saint,” said Fr Mutahi.

Before removing the casket, Archbishop Kairu blessed the dais at Dedan Kimathi grounds where the main ceremony will be conducted on Saturday.

The journey to sainthood


Is it necessary,why cant she be made a saint without exhuming her body?What value does sainthood add?


It is a prerequisite for the ceremony.Sainthood is the greatest recognition for a servant of God.
The ceremony has also ensured growth in biachara huko Nyeli.
Biachala booms huko Nyeli


Yaani the respected "Telegraph" is now quoting the gutter "Nairobi Star"? Hogwash press!!!
Swenani
#6 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 12:13:23 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Six witnesses had to confirm whether the special wax seals had been tampered with and after the casket was removed from the tomb like box, they went round the wooden casket confirming and counterchecking whether they were intact.

And all, starting with Archbishop Kairu confirmed the seals were intact.

Jubilation and ululation from Catholic Faithful who had flocked in to witness the event after attending a mass at the same venue filled the Mathari Old Chapel, confirming the beatification ceremony had started.

“We are really happy and excited that our prayer and wish has come true. We now hope another miracle will be realized soon so that Sister Irene can be declared a saint,” said Fr Mutahi.

Before removing the casket, Archbishop Kairu blessed the dais at Dedan Kimathi grounds where the main ceremony will be conducted on Saturday.

The journey to sainthood


Is it necessary,why cant she be made a saint without exhuming her body?What value does sainthood add?


It is a prerequisite for the ceremony.Sainthood is the greatest recognition for a servant of God.
The ceremony has also ensured growth in biachara huko Nyeli.
Biachala booms huko Nyeli


Would you prefer to be recognized by people when you are dead or by God when you are alive and dead?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
githundi
#7 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 12:25:02 PM
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It's about Sister Irene Stefani Nyaatha, @Swenani.
Please be positive. The Catholics are celebrating a person who touched other people lives. A missionary who sacrificed her life for Christ. It's a big moment for Catholics.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
Swenani
#8 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 12:34:21 PM
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githundi wrote:
It's about Sister Irene Stefani Nyaatha, @Swenani.
Please be positive. The Catholics are celebrating a person who touched other people lives. A missionary who sacrificed her life for Christ. It's a big moment for Catholics.


I know that,being positive doesnt necessarily mean you do not ask question.

Is it necessary to exhume bodies to celebrate a persons life?,If my folks from Eshimalavandu village did they same,we would be branded witches
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
githundi
#9 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 1:49:51 PM
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Live and let live. If those affected are okay with it and it doesn't affect you, why not?
Democracy does not belong to the dead
mpobiz
#10 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 2:07:20 PM
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Swenani wrote:
githundi wrote:
It's about Sister Irene Stefani Nyaatha, @Swenani.
Please be positive. The Catholics are celebrating a person who touched other people lives. A missionary who sacrificed her life for Christ. It's a big moment for Catholics.


I know that,being positive doesnt necessarily mean you do not ask question.

Is it necessary to exhume bodies to celebrate a persons life?,If my folks from Eshimalavandu village did they same,we would be branded witches

Wololo . Thats a very valid point. We were watching news with one of my fish when she made this quote "isnt this some form of ushirikina?" i was unable to answer her.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Lolest!
#11 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 2:30:03 PM
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Swenani wrote:
githundi wrote:
It's about Sister Irene Stefani Nyaatha, @Swenani.
Please be positive. The Catholics are celebrating a person who touched other people lives. A missionary who sacrificed her life for Christ. It's a big moment for Catholics.


I know that,being positive doesnt necessarily mean you do not ask question.

Is it necessary to exhume bodies to celebrate a persons life?,If my folks from Eshimalavandu village did they same,we would be branded witches

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause True. BBC would do a documentary on a savage African tribe!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Robinhood
#12 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 3:31:11 PM
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Some of the rituals of the Catholic church are puzzling at best
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
wazuaguest
#13 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 5:24:26 PM
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perplexing
Africa belongs to Africans.
harrydre
#14 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 5:58:24 PM
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githundi wrote:
Live and let live. If those affected are okay with it and it doesn't affect you, why not?


It's a first in Africa, it's a long journey to Sainthood. I think the Late Cardinal Maurice Otunga & Sister Anna Ali are also on the path to sainthood and Happens to very few who lived their lives dedicated to God. Let the Catholics be. It's their faith.

http://mobile.nation.co....0/-/v4lwdo/-/index.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Ali
i.am.back!!!!
Mtafiti
#15 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 6:46:11 PM
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harrydre wrote:
[quote=githundi]Live and let live. If those affected are okay with it and it doesn't affect you, why not?


It's a first in Africa, it's a long journey to Sainthood. I think the Late Cardinal Maurice Otunga & Sister Anna Ali are also on the path to sainthood and Happens to very few who lived their lives dedicated to God. Let the Catholics be. It's their faith.

http://mobile.nation.co....0/-/v4lwdo/-/index.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Ali[/quote]


I thought the first was Augustine of Hippo,Algeria?

Does it help the dead, the living or none? Why beatify? Cathos, please tuelimisheni.
githundi
#16 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 8:28:22 PM
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Catholics remember the faithful who lived outstanding lives before them. More so the ones who had dedicated their lives to others, living not for themselves but for Christ; for humanity.
They remind some of us that although we have challenges in our own lives, it's possible that we can be holy, we will overcome. The Catholic Church is the church of the apostles. These people become our role models in the Christian journey. That's why majority of Christians first names are derived from names of early Christians who are perceived to have led exceptional lives.
Most Christians believe that when good people die, they go to heaven from where they inspire us and watch over us. Catholics believe these people pray for us.
As to who is supposed to benefit from these rites, the answer is; to the living.
Sister Irene beatification ceremony shows that good deeds never die and she inspires a generation to dedicate their lives to Christ. She shows that no matter who we are, wherever we are we can make a difference and make the world a better place to be.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
Mtafiti
#17 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 9:00:30 PM
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githundi wrote:
Catholics remember the faithful who lived outstanding lives before them. More so the ones who had dedicated their lives to others, living not for themselves but for Christ; for humanity.
They remind some of us that although we have challenges in our own lives, it's possible that we can be holy, we will overcome. The Catholic Church is the church of the apostles. These people become our role models in the Christian journey. That's why majority of Christians first names are derived from names of early Christians who are perceived to have led exceptional lives.
Most Christians believe that when good people die, they go to heaven from where they inspire us and watch over us. Catholics believe these people pray for us.
As to who is supposed to benefit from these rites, the answer is; to the living.
Sister Irene beatification ceremony shows that good deeds never die and she inspires a generation to dedicate their lives to Christ. She shows that no matter who we are, wherever we are we can make a difference and make the world a better place to be.


Amen!
Murira Ikihia
#18 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2015 9:40:31 PM
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A quick lesson on the Catholic faith - the fourth article of the apostles creed as codified in the 4th Century in Nicene: "I believe in one, holy catholic and apostolic church, the communion of saints, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting". Saints are the heroes of faith i.e. people whose lives stand out as beacons of faith for us (the living) to emulate. Catholic saints are holy people and human people who lived extraordinary lives. Each saint the Church honors responded to God's invitation to use his or her unique gifts. God calls each one of us to be a saint.The church has a well established philosophy and logic and structures to ensure that it does not declare an individual to be a saint where there is any doubt about their faith. In addition to being a holy person, there has to be two certified miracles before being canonized. Why miracles? These are a matters of faith and if indeed, God wishes a christian to be upheld as an example, He will give an unambiguous sign. This sign has to be examined objectively and is only declared to be a miracle if there is no explanation under the current body of knowledge to explain the phenomena. On last thing, beatification cannot occur before at least five years after death have elapsed.
Beatification is the first step towards sainthood. The remains of the body of Sr Irene are what we call first class relics. There are other earthly possessions that could have survived upto this point, we call them second class relics. There are about 30,000 canonized saints in the Church. The church understands every material thing as part of creation. For instance, St. Isidore of Seville - is the patron saint of the internet.

Our prayer is that through the intercession of Sr Irene, God will give peace to our country and the humility to conquer the pride in our hearts and society. Amen.

Makali1
#19 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:57:45 AM
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False doctrines of men=paganism=Catholicism
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#20 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:42:33 AM
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