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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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I have a 1 acre plot huko outskirts of Kitengela that I bought through a sacco. Most buyers were speculators and there may be no developments in the next 5yrs. This got me thinking, why don't I get 100 goats or sheep to graze on my land and neighbours lands for the time being before developments come up. Goats/sheep reproduce twice a year and thus my herd will be 300 after 1yr and about 1000 after 2yrs. That's about 5m in the bank. The nos in yr 5 will be too much to count. What are your thoughts on this?
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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good idea if u get a hardworking n trustworthy fella u r gd
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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I like your thinking.What about water and disease control?Also the goats may end up clearing all the grass and vegetation and may need to be relocated to replenish the place.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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jaggernaut wrote:I have a 1 acre plot huko outskirts of Kitengela that I bought through a sacco. Most buyers were speculators and there may be no developments in the next 5yrs. This got me thinking, why don't I get 100 goats or sheep to graze on my land and neighbours lands for the time being before developments come up. Goats/sheep reproduce twice a year and thus my herd will be 300 after 1yr and about 1000 after 2yrs. That's about 5m in the bank. The nos in yr 5 will be too much to count. What are your thoughts on this? 100 goats , youll need at least 2 kijanas to herd them at minimum wage thats 13,000 . Feeding your animals on grass alone will give you low productivity you need to supplement with grain feeds , best i believe are UNGA feeds and DOLA . Plus minerals best are from COOPERS for 100 goats you should need about a minimum of 400 kgs feed + minerals a month so say about 20,000/- . Cost of a shaded pen for them to sleep out of the elements 100,000/- . Tick wash or they will die from trips ( a disease they get when bitten) this will cost you about 3,000 /- every month , plus a 2 x 2000 back sprayers one for each kijana. Then you need a VET for when they get sick , they are prone no pnemonia with weather changes , about 5,000 a month on average. Clean water is important so a fresh . I advise you to to go ahead with it i did the same but do not count your goats before their born coz you should try and not allow mating to end up when you have births in the dry season . Too many deaths happen because of this. I also advise if your plot has any plastic bags do away with each and every one of them because these animals. eat them and die all the time. I am currently trying to create a hybrid and am looking myself for a boar goat and eventually a red kalahari , i have kenyan goats i.e the gala , i have german alpine , sanine , toggenburg and the kinyeji goats as well. It is a very interesting hobby if not a business and very fruitful. Keep trust worthy kijanas or youll hear ali umwa na nyoka ama umbwa all the time
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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mazingira wrote:jaggernaut wrote:I have a 1 acre plot huko outskirts of Kitengela that I bought through a sacco. Most buyers were speculators and there may be no developments in the next 5yrs. This got me thinking, why don't I get 100 goats or sheep to graze on my land and neighbours lands for the time being before developments come up. Goats/sheep reproduce twice a year and thus my herd will be 300 after 1yr and about 1000 after 2yrs. That's about 5m in the bank. The nos in yr 5 will be too much to count. What are your thoughts on this? 100 goats , youll need at least 2 kijanas to herd them at minimum wage thats 13,000 . Feeding your animals on grass alone will give you low productivity you need to supplement with grain feeds , best i believe are UNGA feeds and DOLA . Plus minerals best are from COOPERS for 100 goats you should need about a minimum of 400 kgs feed + minerals a month so say about 20,000/- . Cost of a shaded pen for them to sleep out of the elements 100,000/- . Tick wash or they will die from trips ( a disease they get when bitten) this will cost you about 3,000 /- every month , plus a 2 x 2000 back sprayers one for each kijana. Then you need a VET for when they get sick , they are prone no pnemonia with weather changes , about 5,000 a month on average. Clean water is important so a fresh . I advise you to to go ahead with it i did the same but do not count your goats before their born coz you should try and not allow mating to end up when you have births in the dry season . Too many deaths happen because of this. I also advise if your plot has any plastic bags do away with each and every one of them because these animals. eat them and die all the time. I am currently trying to create a hybrid and am looking myself for a boar goat and eventually a red kalahari , i have kenyan goats i.e the gala , i have german alpine , sanine , toggenburg and the kinyeji goats as well. It is a very interesting hobby if not a business and very fruitful. Keep trust worthy kijanas or youll hear ali umwa na nyoka ama umbwa all the time Many thanks for the detailed info. The sacco had a huge piece and iam looking at grazing on about 100 acres of rangeland before developments start coming up maybe in the next 5yrs. Hope there won't be any conflicts with the local residents over pasture.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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If you want peace with the locals, do not insist on building a wall which will cut off pasture land....you must be willing to share Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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mazingira wrote:jaggernaut wrote:I have a 1 acre plot huko outskirts of Kitengela that I bought through a sacco. Most buyers were speculators and there may be no developments in the next 5yrs. This got me thinking, why don't I get 100 goats or sheep to graze on my land and neighbours lands for the time being before developments come up. Goats/sheep reproduce twice a year and thus my herd will be 300 after 1yr and about 1000 after 2yrs. That's about 5m in the bank. The nos in yr 5 will be too much to count. What are your thoughts on this? 100 goats , youll need at least 2 kijanas to herd them at minimum wage thats 13,000 . Feeding your animals on grass alone will give you low productivity you need to supplement with grain feeds , best i believe are UNGA feeds and DOLA . Plus minerals best are from COOPERS for 100 goats you should need about a minimum of 400 kgs feed + minerals a month so say about 20,000/- . Cost of a shaded pen for them to sleep out of the elements 100,000/- . Tick wash or they will die from trips ( a disease they get when bitten) this will cost you about 3,000 /- every month , plus a 2 x 2000 back sprayers one for each kijana. Then you need a VET for when they get sick , they are prone no pnemonia with weather changes , about 5,000 a month on average. Clean water is important so a fresh . I advise you to to go ahead with it i did the same but do not count your goats before their born coz you should try and not allow mating to end up when you have births in the dry season . Too many deaths happen because of this. I also advise if your plot has any plastic bags do away with each and every one of them because these animals. eat them and die all the time. I am currently trying to create a hybrid and am looking myself for a boar goat and eventually a red kalahari , i have kenyan goats i.e the gala , i have german alpine , sanine , toggenburg and the kinyeji goats as well. It is a very interesting hobby if not a business and very fruitful. Keep trust worthy kijanas or youll hear ali umwa na nyoka ama umbwa all the time Thats very helpful information there. My question though, where do u get land to keep all the goats that you mentioned? and where do you get all these breeds? Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/10/2015 Posts: 103
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How is this project doing 8 months later?Granted a goats gestation period is 5 months.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/10/2015 Posts: 103
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I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Galla goat has some very tasty nyama. Was thinking of venturing into this too though using leased land.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 136
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Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis Good stuff  where did you get the Kalahari goat given it's predominantly found in S.Africa? Also distinguishing the Galla goat from the common East African goat can be quite tricky
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 136
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Lolest! wrote:Galla goat has some very tasty nyama. Was thinking of venturing into this too though using leased land. Kumbe we are many goat enthusiasts in the closet!mtu alete Guka sasa i am sure he is pretty knowledgeable. Hii Kalahari ulionja wapi? I am looking for its buck
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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oltome wrote:Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis Good stuff where did you get the Kalahari goat given it's predominantly found in S.Africa? Also distinguishing the Galla goat from the common East African goat can be quite tricky convex at the rear for Galla
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 136
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Lolest! wrote:oltome wrote:Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis Good stuff where did you get the Kalahari goat given it's predominantly found in S.Africa? Also distinguishing the Galla goat from the common East African goat can be quite tricky convex at the rear for Galla True, and to add on, black nose, long prickled ears,black skin on tail and black skin on the knees
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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oltome wrote:Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis Good stuff where did you get the Kalahari goat given it's predominantly found in S.Africa? Also distinguishing the Galla goat from the common East African goat can be quite tricky @ Kili, I have some somali/galla goat (i hear the name galla is derogatory for the Orma ). where can i get the kalahari?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/10/2015 Posts: 103
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I believe the biggest difference between galla and the small e.a goat (commonly known as kienyeji)is size & taste.When you put the 2 together the kienyeji ones look like kids to the galla.@oltome,majimaji,I got some kalahari bucks & semen from RSA.Definate advantage of Kalahari,boer & savanna is fast growth rate.The kienyeji ones will attain dead weight of 7-8 kgs in 24 months. Imagine slaughtering a superior breed/cross @ 6 months @ 60 kgs per animal @ 400 per kg.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Kili wrote:I believe the biggest difference between galla and the small e.a goat (commonly known as kienyeji)is size & taste.When you put the 2 together the kienyeji ones look like kids to the galla.@oltome,majimaji,I got some kalahari bucks & semen from RSA.Definate advantage of Kalahari,boer & savanna is fast growth rate.The kienyeji ones will attain dead weight of 7-8 kgs in 24 months. Imagine slaughtering a superior breed/cross @ 6 months @ 60 kgs per animal @ 400 per kg. @Kili, Can I buy from you either buck or doe?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Kili wrote:I believe the biggest difference between galla and the small e.a goat (commonly known as kienyeji)is size & taste.When you put the 2 together the kienyeji ones look like kids to the galla.@oltome,majimaji,I got some kalahari bucks & semen from RSA.Definate advantage of Kalahari,boer & savanna is fast growth rate.The kienyeji ones will attain dead weight of 7-8 kgs in 24 months. Imagine slaughtering a superior breed/cross @ 6 months @ 60 kgs per animal @ 400 per kg. @Kili, Can I buy from you either buck or doe?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis could you consider selling a couple of the galla and the kalahari?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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mkenyan wrote:Kili wrote:I have cross bred 150 galla does with kalahari red.Galla weighs 30-40 kgs while the kalahari weighs 100-120.First generation should give me some interesting mbuzis as I upgrade my way to exclusive fullblood kalaharis could you consider selling a couple of the galla and the kalahari? Galla is available in many places including Baba Dogo, Nrb
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