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Why closing Dadaab camp is a bad idea
Makali1
#1 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 1:52:28 AM
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Deputy President William Ruto yesterday gave the UNHCR 3 months to close down Dadaab camp or ELSE! As a Kenyan who is equally outraged at the massacre of those poor children at Garissa, I believe Ruto has good intentions at wanting to relocate/shut down this camp.

However, I'm of the opinion that it is a very bad idea for many reasons:

As we all know, the Kenya-Somali border is very porous and with rampant corruption, extremely easy to buy a Kenyan ID. With a Kenyan ID, it's not impossible for the eventual illegal migration of all these Somalis currently at Dadaab finding their way into the mainland of Kenya!

With a Kenyan ID and their huge numbers, they can easily sway elections to represent their interests, which believe me are in direct conflict with Kenyan Christians!

How shall we be able to differentiate which Somalis are legal and which aren't? In the last Kenyan Population Census, did you notice how quickly their ACTUAL numbers were retracted from the media??! "Kenyan" Islamic Somalis are currently estimated to be the 6th largest tribe and growing at an alarming rate.

Dadaab camp should be kept as is. Kenyan intelligence officers should infiltrate the camp from within and thwart any possible al-shabab threats. The army should also surround the camp to ascertain that no one leaves the camp headed to the mainland.

To get a sense of how easy it is for a Somali to cross the imaginary Kenyan-Somali border and obtain a LEGAL Kenyan ID, CNN's Nima Elbagir went undercover and did it for about 200 US dollars. This you-tube video demonstrates that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B63FDN8gN24

harrydre
#2 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 2:27:05 AM
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You are either a sympathizer or one of the kebabs. That's the route for arms and radicals. Close the godamn camp!
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Coolio
#3 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 2:34:03 AM
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What's your old handle Mr/ Mrs sympathizer?
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Makali1
#4 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 3:19:53 AM
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I am a 100% peace loving Christian KENYAN who is disgusted and fed up by Islamic terrorists attacking innocent Kenyans. I'm also very, very ANGRY at being fooled and taken for granted by the government.

I just posited a sober analysis instead of the knee-jerk reaction to close Dadaab which was actually proposed by "Somali Kenyans" in high ranking government positions for ex. Mr Duale. Suspiciously enough, it was only after getting Duale's/Somali "blessings" that Mr Ruto reiterated the same position about closing Dadaab camp and made it the official government stance.

Now, my friends, Mr Duale is the same man who apparently has a list of terrorist supporters. Does this man have our best interests at heart? That is for you to answer. He knows who financed terrorists, yet is only now coming up with this so-called list. Why didn't he alert the govt beforehand? Does anyone recall what he said after the Eastleigh bombings? I'm so outraged that Mr Uhuru's right hand man can do this! Is he a spy for the Islamic state? How has this man been able to infiltrate to such a high level? There's more here than meets the EYE! We demand an answer!!

Somalia does not have a functional government and hasn't had one for decades. Al-shabab still controls a huge segment of Somalia. At Dadaab camp, these refugees get food relief, some education, shelter and safety. Given that it is human nature to survive, are we so NAIVE to think that we can just close down a camp, ferry close to one million people to SOMALIA, close the gate and say "bye-bye see ya later?!" Those people will come right back into the heart of Kenya, armed with fake ID's. Since there's no camp to put them in, guess what? You will be forced to live with them. UNHCR and the entire world won't back you up anymore, after all didn't you guys insist on closing this camp??! No other country will volunteer to take these refugees and will be more than happy that they are now Kenya's headache.

This is the most likely scenario! That 700 km stone wall they're talking about building?? Haha! That was a good one. Really? Does this government take us for retards? Of course, that will be another graft in the making.

Now enter 1 million plus Somali Muslims into mainland Kenya. Kutakalika?? These guys mind you have IDs and they can vote. With our elections coming up in 2017, no candidate should dream of winning the presidency without the Muslim vote. In other words, welcome to Sharia Law! Oh yes! It's surely coming. Where you and I, ie kafirs, will live as dhimmis and pay jizya tax...eventually.

I propose we keep Dadaab camp open for logistical reasons. It's the perfect set up! Since it has been proven that al-shabab is living in our midst, round them up...all Somalis...process them. Those with Kenyan IDs must prove how they obtained them. If they can't explain, it will be assumed fake and illegal...straight to Dadaab. Those living illegally in Kenya, faster faster to the camp. This camp should be expanded and then a huge fence built around it and manned by the Kenyan military. No one can leave or enter without permission. Once inside the camp, they must follow the law of the land. Infiltrate them, learn their tactics and defeat them. Meanwhile, they're happy to live in relative security, food, their children are learning...etc. Lastly, proselytize the gospel of Christ in the final defeat of this ideological war. After many years, Islam influence at Dadaab will weaken. Then slowly by slowly, hopefully as Somalia becomes more stable they can be repatriated back to their country.
murchr
#5 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 4:34:57 AM
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^^^^^^^Haiyayaya...when you type out so much, no one will take the time to read. Keep it short and to the point. On this issue, am with the DP kabisa, they should move the camp to somalia and have the army create a buffer zone in between. Too much for being kind. And for your information, it was Kibaki who suggested that the camp should move back in 2012 at a London conference.
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#6 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 5:16:19 AM
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murchr wrote:
^^^^^^^Haiyayaya...when you type out so much, no one will take the time to read. Keep it short and to the point. On this issue, am with the DP kabisa, they should move the camp to somalia and have the army create a buffer zone in between. Too much for being kind. And for your information, it was Kibaki who suggested that the camp should move back in 2012 at a London conference.


1 million plus illegal immigrants will enter Kenya,illegally acquire 1 million plus Kenyan IDs,infiltrate and integrate into society,go on to vote,enforce Sharia law and institute jizya tax as the dhimmi Kenyans of this new Islamic state are helpless to do anything about it because the camp was closed.

The world and UNHCR will forget about the refugees and watch as even terrorists capitalize on this opportunity to acquire fake Kenyan passports because the camp was closed.

Why and how? Porous borders,corruption(possible Kshs 18.4 billion plus payout for the corrupt) and because the camp was closed.
Iganamagana
#7 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 7:32:05 AM
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Three months is such a long time! Close the damn place now.
Impunity
#8 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:29:00 AM
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What is the distance between Daadab camp and the Kenya-Somalia border?
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#9 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:40:03 AM
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#10 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:42:06 AM
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