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Safaricom HY 2014/2015 EPS up 32%
mazingira
#101 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:12:55 PM
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I think Safcom should venture in TV , i mean theyve got a great network already set up . With decent fibre optic speeds and 4G comming up its sensible break into the market provide communication through , phone , data and Television . what do u wazuans think
Ericsson
#102 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:19:28 PM
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Venturing into TV they will be hammered heavily with the likes of Multichoice and Zuku.
It's more profitable being the infrastructure provider.
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streetwise
#103 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:30:22 PM
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They know the business of data and voice transmission, question is do they understand the business of news.

My suggestion let them sell bandwidth to others
mazingira
#104 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:36:28 PM
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Theyve got to divest their investments theyve got too much cash on their hands which will be idle soon , what do you think they can do with it. Theyd kill multichoice , its expensive and desperetly needs real competition not zuku or smart times i mean something with quality on air . I think home internet and with it TV would be a good bet especially as a packaged deal
Ericsson
#105 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:47:22 PM
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That cash could be used in venturing to other countries through acquisitions of stakes in struggling companies.
Multichoice is richer;fighting multichoice is like fighting gava you will definitely lose
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streetwise
#106 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:53:05 PM
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Not like fighting gava..like fighting coca cola..ask Richard Branson
mazingira
#107 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 5:08:17 PM
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Then if thats the case safcom had once thought of going into Ethiopia population is almost double i believe , so if 10 % take up lines and mpesa takes off well. Then its all $ in the bank but have to be careful if what happened to yu in kenya happens to safcom in Ethiopia then were all tears
murchr
#108 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 7:00:29 PM
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Safcom will get into TV. They could be waiting for that switch off on analog TV then they dive in proper. Cable TV is so much better than satellite TV, competition here will be Zuku. My guess is they will be providing Internet + TV on their package. Pricing will be key....

The Ethiopian govt is very restrictive of their market. Its going to be a tall order for them to just dive in there (you cant even skype in ET) Most probably the govt will set up a mobile operating company and maybe Safcom may be invited as a shareholder.
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murchr
#109 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 7:14:59 PM
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Safcom will get into TV. They could be waiting for that switch off on analog TV then they dive in proper. Cable TV is so much better than satellite TV both in quality and cheap to set up, competition here will be Zuku. My guess is they will be providing Internet + TV on their package. Pricing will be key....

The Ethiopian govt is very restrictive of their market. Its going to be a tall order for them to just dive in there (you cant even skype in ET) Most probably the govt will set up a mobile operating company and maybe Safcom may be invited as a shareholder.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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jwatesh
#110 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:07:31 PM
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Home internet should be Safaricom's next move if they dont want Zuku to take away their data customers. I have Zuku at home, never use Safcom bundles while at home. Getting into this market early enough will prevent the money from flowing outside. In countries like Canada the leading telecommunication companies such as Rogers and Bell provide phone services, home internet, cable services and home phone. All the money stays within their pipeline whether inside the home or out
murchr
#111 Posted : Monday, February 09, 2015 6:14:15 AM
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Daily Nation wrote:
Safaricom’s money transfer service, M-Pesa, has a clear market leadership and is poised to be the primary non-voice revenue driver for the telco, a new research shows.

Citigroup Global Markets Inc. notes that M-Pesa’s market leadership faces very little competition from the companies offering similar services in the industry, while its full potential is far from being realised.

“We expect M-Pesa and data (currently 18 per cent and 8 per cent of the company’s revenue respectively) to be the key growth drivers for Safaricom. M-Pesa active users are still just 56 per cent of Safaricom’s subscriber base, with good scope to continue growing in our view.

“We also think average revenue per user expansion can continue as Safaricom stimulates increased usage and services such as Lipa Na M-Pesa (payments to merchants) gain traction,” said the report.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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quicksand
#112 Posted : Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:04:38 PM
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Now this:
http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/qwae62/-/index.html
How lazy is Airtel????
Disclosure: I own stock.
MaichBlack
#113 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:34:20 AM
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quicksand wrote:
Now this:
http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/qwae62/-/index.html
How lazy is Airtel????
Disclosure: I own stock.

Quote:
“You see, being creative and competitive is not abusing dominance in any way. You can’t cap someone’s innovation and creativity at a percentage so that you protect those who are not as creative and innovative. As far as we are concerned, there is fair competition in the industry,” he (Mr. Wangusi) said.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#114 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:46:55 AM
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These is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard from anyone above the age of 3!!!

These fellows think this is a socialist/communist country. This is a capitalist Nation. They should Google the word "capitalism". How do you go into a business that you don't have enough capital to be in??? What next? Kiosk owners demanding a raft of restrictions on supermarkets?

Useless!!!

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What Airtel wants once Safaricom is declared dominant

M-Pesa: To be hived off and operate as a separate and independent business with all other telcos allowed to use the service “so that customers are not locked in by M-Pesa to remain in Safaricom.”

M-Pesa tariff to be at a flat rate on both money transferred within Safaricom network and to other networks “to avoid price discrimination, which is currently detrimental to customers and creates a club effect which is similar to customer lock-in.”

Infrastructure company: Isolate base stations and other network-related businesses to a separate and independent unit, which will be converted into a wholesale outfit, selling connectivity to other companies at regulated prices. The regulator to ensure that all telcos get the same quality of service.

Mobile phone services:

To be set up as a separate and independent unit that runs the retail business of selling voice, SMS and Internet to the public but at prices controlled by the Competition Authority to ensure the prices are equal or slightly higher than those of other operators.

On Safaricom marketing: Airtel wants the leading mobile company ordered to call for public consultation and commission studies on how giant marketing campaigns affect the market before carrying any promotions such as Tetemesha na Safaricom, Bonyeza Ushinde Na Safaricom, or redeeming of ‘bonga’ points. All operators, consumer bodies and the public to be given the opportunity to make representations and the authority to undertake detailed review of the proposed promotion with a view to understanding the impact of such promotions on the entire mobile business. The argument is that “none of the other companies is able to run a promotion of such magnitude due to the limited financial capability.”

Call termination rates:

Given the market share of Safaricom and the nature of the Kenyan market, its rivals end up paying for calls terminated on its network and Airtel suggests that CA should impose a higher interconnection rate such that Safaricom pays 1.55 times the going rate. That means while Airtel and Orange will pay Safaricom 99 cents for calls terminating on it network,

M-Pesa: To be hived off and operate as a separate and independent business with all other telcos allowed to use the service “so that customers are not locked in by M-Pesa to remain in Safaricom.”

M-Pesa tariff to be at a flat rate on both money transferred within Safaricom network and to other networks “to avoid price discrimination, which is currently detrimental to customers and creates a club effect which is similar to customer lock-in.”

Infrastructure company: Isolate base stations and other network-related businesses to a separate and independent unit, which will be converted into a wholesale outfit, selling connectivity to other companies at regulated prices. The regulator to ensure that all telcos get the same quality of service.

Mobile phone services:

To be set up as a separate and independent unit that runs the retail business of selling voice, SMS and Internet to the public but at prices controlled by the Competition Authority to ensure the prices are equal or slightly higher than those of other operators.

On Safaricom marketing: Airtel wants the leading mobile company ordered to call for public consultation and commission studies on how giant marketing campaigns affect the market before carrying any promotions such as Tetemesha na Safaricom, Bonyeza Ushinde Na Safaricom, or redeeming of ‘bonga’ points.

All operators, consumer bodies and the public to be given the opportunity to make representations and the authority to undertake detailed review of the proposed promotion with a view to understanding the impact of such promotions on the entire mobile business.

The argument is that “none of the other companies is able to run a promotion of such magnitude due to the limited financial capability.”

Call termination rates:

Given the market share of Safaricom and the nature of the Kenyan market, its rivals end up paying for calls terminated on its network and Airtel suggests that CA should impose a higher interconnection rate such that Safaricom pays 1.55 times the going rate.

That means while Airtel and Orange will pay Safaricom 99 cents for calls terminating on it network, Safaricom will pay Sh1.5 per minute of a call terminating on other networks.

“Safaricom has much lower interconnect cost than Airtel due to economies of scale and if we implement asymmetric interconnection where Safaricom pays us more and we pay them less, we can invest the savings in the business to become more competitive and improve the market competitiveness for the benefit of consumers and the Authority.”

Retail voice prices:

Airtel wants Communication Authority to force Safaricom to keep its calling rates at a flat fee for both Safaricom-to-Safaricom calls and for calls going to other networks.

Currently, Safaricom charges Sh4 for off-net call and Sh3 for on-net calls. The flat rate should apply and be the same even when Safaricom is calling out a promotion.

The authority should also set a point below which Safaricom cannot price its calling rate to safeguard the industry against low profits.

At the moment, Safaricom prices are the highest in the market with other operators forced to cut prices to woo customers.

National roaming:

Communication Authority to order Safaricom to connect other operators in areas where they have no network coverage, in effect, enforcing mandatory national roaming on Safaricom.

This would make it possible for, say Airtel consumers, to make and receive calls in areas where Airtel has not invested in network but Safaricom has.

Safaricom would then pick Airtel customer’s signal and transmit it to the nearest Airtel base for onward transmission and termination.

Should the termination point be outside Airtel area of coverage but in an area where Safaricom has network coverage, Safaricom would then pick the signal from the last Airtel base and terminate the call.

This, Airtel argues, would level the playing field given Safaricom’s huge investment in network that it is now using to bar entry of other telcos into the industry.

“In the absence of infrastructure sharing obligations for mobile coverage sites in Kenya to aid in coverage, existing players and a new entrant will have to replicate the same infrastructure that an existing licensee has in order to compete effectively which definitely creates a disincentive and therefore a barrier to entry..”

Safaricom will pay Sh1.5 per minute of a call terminating on other networks. “Safaricom has much lower interconnect cost than Airtel due to economies of scale and if we implement asymmetric interconnection where Safaricom pays us more and we pay them less, we can invest the savings in the business to become more competitive and improve the market competitiveness for the benefit of consumers and the Authority.”

Retail voice prices:

Airtel wants Communication Authority to force Safaricom to keep its calling rates at a flat fee for both Safaricom-to-Safaricom calls and for calls going to other networks. Currently, Safaricom charges Sh4 for off-net call and Sh3 for on-net calls. The flat rate should apply and be the same even when Safaricom is calling out a promotion. The authority should also set a point below which Safaricom cannot price its calling rate to safeguard the industry against low profits. At the moment, Safaricom prices are the highest in the market with other operators forced to cut prices to woo customers.

National roaming:

Communication Authority to order Safaricom to connect other operators in areas where they have no network coverage, in effect, enforcing mandatory national roaming on Safaricom. This would make it possible for, say Airtel consumers, to make and receive calls in areas where Airtel has not invested in network but Safaricom has. Safaricom would then pick Airtel customer’s signal and transmit it to the nearest Airtel base for onward transmission and termination. Should the termination point be outside Airtel area of coverage but in an area where Safaricom has network coverage, Safaricom would then pick the signal from the last Airtel base and terminate the call. This, Airtel argues, would level the playing field given Safaricom’s huge investment in network that it is now using to bar entry of other telcos into the industry.

“In the absence of infrastructure sharing obligations for mobile coverage sites in Kenya to aid in coverage, existing players and a new entrant will have to replicate the same infrastructure that an existing licensee has in order to compete effectively which definitely creates a disincentive and therefore a barrier to entry..”


NB: Some paragraphs are repeated. Was like that in the article.
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mazingira
#115 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:52:32 PM
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is it true ? have they come out with a statement that they are going into cable tv , :) ... and this hogwash by Airtel , they cant handle the heat from Mpesa and Safcoms domination . If they were smart they could have hedged by buying into Safcom on the NSE when it was 5 - 8 bob , invested say 100 million shares worth and theyd have been ok. If this TV thing is true chaaa ching ching ching ching . Let Safcom , EABL , KCB Kakuzi , Britam and Kengen become super industrial powers in each of their feilds and the region is ours. Like the Europeans look to the Germans let East Africans look to Kenya .
mlennyma
#116 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:59:26 PM
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it will be interesting to see how the dwindling supply will handle the demand pilling in layers of millions,definitely there is some news.
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mazingira
#117 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:09:35 PM
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I just read the business daily article on the ON DEMAND style TV that Safcom is going into , its a good idea "BUT"....i was thinking more along the lines of what someone already wrote here about the style of Rogers Cogeco and AT&T which wire a single cable into your property with home internet and cable tv. We have the ability to launch 4G in kenya so this is possible to its a segment i dont think should be overlooked.
muganda
#118 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:36:55 PM
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Forget PayTV, here's proof Safaricom is now offering IT Consultancy http://www.safaricom.co.ke/busi...solutions/it-consultancy

Now at this jack-of-all-trades rate, yet all money is made from Voice, Data, MPesa, in that order!
Boris Boyka
#119 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:32:55 PM
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* digresss. What are the new post pay tarriffs coming in early may?
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
murchr
#120 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:48:25 PM
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muganda wrote:
Forget PayTV, here's proof Safaricom is now offering IT Consultancy http://www.safaricom.co.ke/busi...solutions/it-consultancy

Now at this jack-of-all-trades rate, yet all money is made from Voice, Data, MPesa, in that order!


This is a good way of ensuring that businesses keep using Safcom phones data and cloud services. Most Telecommunication services (in the west) offer this. See this...

What do you mean when you say "yet all money is made from Voice, Data, MPesa, in that order!"
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