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Githurai protest Chaos: In support for arrested Cop!!??
Tebes
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:06:13 PM
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Got the info late.


From the people in the ground, the cop was very effective against criminals, had neutralized one of the gang members. The member happened to be a son of a lady who just returned the other day from the US and had sought Justice, had the Cop arrested for killing his gangster son together with another gangster in crime. The residents protest because the crime levels were going down. Criminals were being warned to relocate or meet their maker. The cop was making progress until the wheels of (in)justice came rolling.


Reminded me of an occasion recently I attended, where the Chief principal of a school napped a high school kid with Cannabis, the mother was called and she was histerical that the school was being unfair to the otherwise humble kid.

The Principal decided to call the cops, who solved the whole issue from the distributors to the consumers straight from the "innocent Kid" to the embarrassment of the parent!!!


Here I give credit to the deserving. These kids from rich background will soon run over Nairroberry if not checked. Ni hayo tu.......

Sad Sad Sad


"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
FRM2011
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:36:36 PM
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Sadly for the cop, it will be many many years before he can taste freedom. If you remember, it forced the DPP and IPOA to go to court to have the dude arrested.

He faces two murder charges by the way.

see when Nairobi area commandant gives shoot to kill orders, they are illegal. A not-so-smart cop will follow such orders and find themselves in hot soup alone.
Tebes
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:43:25 PM
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A dead criminal is better off dead than a criminal out in bond.


I know a friend who was once carjacked. He was driven around and left after some time. Unfortunately the police called him later to identify some arrested carjackers.


They were taken to court and later released on bond.

Hardly three weeks later they shot him dead.
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
jaggernaut
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:50:36 AM
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C&P

The policeman was on Friday last week charged
with the death of a man shot dead in 2013.
He is also being investigated by the
Independent Policing Oversight Authority
(IPOA) over the killing of a key suspect in the
case.
Mr Oscar Muchoki Mwangi was shot six times
on August 24, three days after the Director of
Public Prosecutions, Mr Keriako Tobiko, ordered
the arrest and prosecution of the officer
attached to Kasarani Police Station in Nairobi.
Mr Mwangi was among witnesses expected to
give evidence against the officer after the
killing of his younger brother, Mr Kenneth
Kimani Mwangi, who was shot dead on April 14,
last year.
Both killings happened in Githurai where the
two brothers lived.
alma
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:04:51 AM
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It may seem sexy to pass of everyone as a criminal because they have been shot in public by a policeman. but sometimes one may have to take a step back and do some thinking.

Obviously someone was shot. Actually 2 brothers were shot allegedly by the same policeman. One of who was going to be a witness in a murder inquiry.

This story was pushed by the family. As any family should. Just because the family has decided not to take the killing of their children by the same policeman lying down, doesn't make them bad parents who want to spoil their children. If you are on of those people who keep quiet when their brothers and sisters are killed ovyo ovyo, understand that not everyone is like you.

This is a very interesting case and it may serve as a warning to cops who follow illegal orders from their bosses.

And I'm not saying that the boys were not criminals just saying that when a policeman does something illegal, it just makes their job much harder.

Here's the sister following up on this case for years.

http://stellavwmwangi.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com...lla.V.W.Mwangi/timeline

In a case like this, I'd let the law follow its cause becauce I wouldn't trust the cop nor the family. Just the evidence.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
maka
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:17:05 AM
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The guy was released right?
possunt quia posse videntur
Muriel
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:33:24 AM
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Tebes wrote:
A dead criminal is better off dead than a criminal out in bond.


I know a friend who was once carjacked. He was driven around and left after some time. Unfortunately the police called him later to identify some arrested carjackers.


They were taken to court and later released on bond.

Hardly three weeks later they shot him dead.


It is my considered opinion that criminals are safer off in remand than outside. Yes, their own safety.

More often than not, they get killed after they are released on bond. Once arrested families often do their best to raise bond but the guys, maybe thinking "One last time" or whatever it it they often think of do the same or similar thing only to realise that they do not get a second pass.

If any of your relatives or friends get arrested, please leave him / her in remand or prison. Its better for the victim, better for him, better for you and hence better for society.
alma
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:40:11 AM
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Muriel, those are assumptions. And assumptions are dangerous. Your story is a blanket issue on dealing with dangerous criminals.

The family in this case is insisting this a is a case of an extremely rogue cop who shot their children one of who was a mathare united player of good repute after he was to be a witness in another case.

That's why I say, its important to listen to the evidence.

The family has been on this case since last year in April. I rememver seeing protests in the same githurai for the same young men against the same cop.

Read more here

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4KenKim

That's why I say, wait for the evidence. It's rare that cops arrest their fellow cops. So being careful before judging anyone in this case is the proper thing to do. Let the people of Githurai go to work whilst the DPP now does his job. We may be shocked at the findings.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
jaggernaut
#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:48:38 AM
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True, this case appears complicated...

C&P

The victims’ sister, Ms Stella Mwangi, who lives in
Norway, claimed the officer made several attempts to
scuttle investigations, including offering bribes and issuing
threats.
“After he shot Kenneth last year, we pursued the matter
because it was a clear case of extrajudicial killing. As
investigations went on, he (suspect) tried to bribe Oscar
because he was a key witness in the case,” she said.
“He arrested him and locked him in the cells on two
occasions. He even took him to court but we paid bail and
the cases are pending. He told him he could have the
cases dropped if he withdrew from the IPOA investigation.”
The family’s lawyer, Mr Mbugua Mureithi, said the victims’
elder brother had given up and had also asked his mother
to stop pursuing the case. The mother too is a witness in
the case. She has refused to back down but she is afraid
of returning from Norway.
Ms Mwangi claimed her other brother was eventually killed
after the officer realised he would incriminate him.
Other witnesses have now been placed under government-
sponsored Witness Protection Programme before the
hearing starts. The case is due for mention on September
16.
McReggae
#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:01:21 AM
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No side can be entirely trusted in this case!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Muriel
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:11:30 AM
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alma wrote:
Muriel, those are assumptions. And assumptions are dangerous. Your story is a blanket issue on dealing with dangerous criminals.

The family in this case is insisting this a is a case of an extremely rogue cop who shot their children one of who was a mathare united player of good repute after he was to be a witness in another case.

That's why I say, its important to listen to the evidence.

The family has been on this case since last year in April. I rememver seeing protests in the same githurai for the same young men against the same cop.

Read more here

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4KenKim

That's why I say, wait for the evidence. It's rare that cops arrest their fellow cops. So being careful before judging anyone in this case is the proper thing to do. Let the people of Githurai go to work whilst the DPP now does his job. We may be shocked at the findings.


Alma,

Yes and no.

First, no, I am not assuming because I said "It is my considered opinion".

Then yes, because I was speaking generally and not necessarily about this particular matter at hand.
alma
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:15:50 AM
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Got you Muriel

For me these are the kind of cases that change the judicial system forever. From witness protection programs to cops arresting their favorite cop to makangas supporting cops.

But the thing that will stand out is how a family can stick to a story and insist on their own brand of justice after so many years.

It will change how cops work. I can even see the family suing even after the criminal case is over.

Just food for thought for our law enforcers out there.

It's also dangerous if it is ever shown that the boys were actual criminals.

Double edged sword and you trust not the cops nor the families. Just the evidence.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
jaggernaut
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:29:26 AM
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The DPP Keraiko Tobiko believes the cop is guilty of murder, that he killed the witness who was scheduled to testify against him in cold blood.

www.nation.co.ke/news/DP...00/-/odu2ws/-/index.html
mkeiy
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:39:21 AM
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I know little about this case but the fact that one of the parties has taken to social media doesn't sit well with me.

May justice be served.
simonkabz
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:11:31 AM
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Much as I want these thugs eliminated, this guy went overboard! This is a complicated case. The cases I know where thugs are outed involves lots of intelligence, surveillance and pursuit to catch the KNOWN GOONS red-handed!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
AlphDoti
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:18:25 AM
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I support this protest!!!

What is wrong with us? The residents say this boy was confirmed as a crook who was in the gang terrorizing citizens. Now I can see those corrupt police eating from the gang want to fry their colleague, yawah!!
streetwise
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:23:56 AM
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I support the residents...sisemi but when the take the criminal to court he will be released on bind and continue stealing and killing people..let the guy go on with his business majuu.
kaka2za
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:09:53 PM
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This is an easy case. The public is usually anti -police so I think the liquidated suspects must have been criminals.
The solution lies in tying the loose ends. Some volunteers should fix that.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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simonkabz
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:28:51 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
I support this protest!!!

What is wrong with us? The residents say this boy was confirmed as a crook who was in the gang terrorizing citizens. Now I can see those corrupt police eating from the gang want to fry their colleague, yawah!!


You are one very confused guy. The other day you were rattling the loudest against extra-judicial killings, what changed?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lolest!
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:50:59 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
I support this protest!!!

What is wrong with us? The residents say this boy was confirmed as a crook who was in the gang terrorizing citizens. Now I can see those corrupt police eating from the gang want to fry their colleague, yawah!!


You are one very confused guy. The other day you were rattling the loudest against extra-judicial killings, what changed?

Applause Applause Applause very confused!

But for him it depends on who is being killed

Their tribe and religion
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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