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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Points to note: 1. Do not start your project without all approvals in hand 2. Bulk purchase of building materials will save you big time, though you will need a 'trusted' foreman to control stock 3. The head fundi shall become closer than a friend during construction. You have to trust that person and change them very early incase of any doubt in their ability 4. Accounting for all supplies will have to be religious, otherwise you may start to believe that someone is stealing, unfounded 5. Labor costs will scare you stiff, but good labor has never been cheap 6. Try to always challenge the thought pattern of your project team. Obviously you will not over-ride the professionals, but learn to question their suggestions based on logic 7. Finishing could actually finish you due to the costs, hence you have to be very hands-on at the stated stage
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Points to note:
1. Do not start your project without all approvals in hand
2. Bulk purchase of building materials will save you big time, though you will need a 'trusted' foreman to control stock
3. The head fundi shall become closer than a friend during construction. You have to trust that person and change them very early incase of any doubt in their ability
4. Accounting for all supplies will have to be religious, otherwise you may start to believe that someone is stealing, unfounded
5. Labor costs will scare you stiff, but good labor has never been cheap
6. Try to always challenge the thought pattern of your project team. Obviously you will not over-ride the professionals, but learn to question their suggestions based on logic
7. Finishing could actually finish you due to the costs, hence you have to be very hands-on at the stated stage Very useful tips Obiero. I much prefer this Obiero to the one that attacks my gender whenever he is displeased
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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iris wrote:obiero wrote:Points to note:
1. Do not start your project without all approvals in hand
2. Bulk purchase of building materials will save you big time, though you will need a 'trusted' foreman to control stock
3. The head fundi shall become closer than a friend during construction. You have to trust that person and change them very early incase of any doubt in their ability
4. Accounting for all supplies will have to be religious, otherwise you may start to believe that someone is stealing, unfounded
5. Labor costs will scare you stiff, but good labor has never been cheap
6. Try to always challenge the thought pattern of your project team. Obviously you will not over-ride the professionals, but learn to question their suggestions based on logic
7. Finishing could actually finish you due to the costs, hence you have to be very hands-on at the stated stage Very useful tips Obiero. I much prefer this Obiero to the one that attacks my gender whenever he is displeased @iris I don't remember ever attacking you.. Sorry, all the same
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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obiero wrote:Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika   @obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder Hope is not a strategy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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sanity wrote:obiero wrote:Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika @obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder Huyo welder ako South Nyanza karibu Kilgoris.. Will his contact be of help? Please confirm before I engage him
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2008 Posts: 380
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Finishes can do you in..
You spend 200K and come out with a gunia of cables and fittings. Or doors that eventually cost 8K, if you add door frame, door, hinges, locks, etc.. yet you were told a panel door costs 3K!
All the best in finishes.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/27/2014 Posts: 454 Location: Republic of Enchantment.
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sanity wrote:obiero wrote:Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika @obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder If you still looking for a welder ,I can refer you to my elder brother based hapa Baba Dogo ,Ruaraka if need fabrication within Nairobi and it's environs. Divers - can you laugh in scuba gear, or will you drown? I was wondering. - James May.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Mkimwa wrote:Finishes can do you in..
You spend 200K and come out with a gunia of cables and fittings. Or doors that eventually cost 8K, if you add door frame, door, hinges, locks, etc.. yet you were told a panel door costs 3K!
All the best in finishes. Been there and done/seen it. You budget 3k for a door as per the cost at the hardware but to have a functional door it ends up costing 8k.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Mkimwa wrote:Finishes can do you in..
You spend 200K and come out with a gunia of cables and fittings. Or doors that eventually cost 8K, if you add door frame, door, hinges, locks, etc.. yet you were told a panel door costs 3K!
All the best in finishes. Thanks @Mkimwa
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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geofreygachie wrote:sanity wrote:obiero wrote:Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika @obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder If you still looking for a welder ,I can refer you to my elder brother based hapa Baba Dogo ,Ruaraka if need fabrication within Nairobi and it's environs. @Geofreygachie, how is your project coming along? Do you have a contact email I can reach you on As I have a few questions? Thanks. "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 359
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obiero wrote:Mkimwa wrote:Finishes can do you in..
You spend 200K and come out with a gunia of cables and fittings. Or doors that eventually cost 8K, if you add door frame, door, hinges, locks, etc.. yet you were told a panel door costs 3K!
All the best in finishes. Thanks @Mkimwa Talking of which I am looking for quotes for doors and windows. Any quality leads?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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@Obiero, kindly repost those photos of the exterior wall. I liked the dressing. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:@Obiero, kindly repost those photos of the exterior wall. I liked the dressing. @Pesa Nane thanks for the compliment.. Now, I lost my gallery but will aim to take fresh ones on my next site visit
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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obiero wrote:sanity wrote:[quote=obiero]Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika
@obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder Huyo welder ako South Nyanza karibu Kilgoris.. Will his contact be of help? Please confirm before I engage him Thanks Obiero,I need on in Nbi Hope is not a strategy
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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geofreygachie wrote:sanity wrote:[quote=obiero]Finishing up on the ground units.. Wakati wa plaster imefika
@obiero,naomba contacts za huyo welder If you still looking for a welder ,I can refer you to my elder brother based hapa Baba Dogo ,Ruaraka if need fabrication within Nairobi and it's environs. Oh yes I do need one in Nbi Hope is not a strategy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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The government joins the low end/affordable unit space with KES 1,500,000 houses on sale at Mavoko https://www.businessdail...86838-ow7077z/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Cheers @Obiero. You doing fine. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:Cheers @Obiero. You doing fine. @pesanane trying is more like it.. almost seeing the end of the tunnel for the initial units.. hopeful that tenants shall be in, within weeks albeit with negligible rental return.. It's a posterity project
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Points to note: 1. Do not start your project without all approvals in hand 2. Bulk purchase of building materials will save you big time, though you will need a 'trusted' foreman to control stock 3. The head fundi shall become closer than a friend during construction. You have to trust that person and change them very early incase of any doubt in their ability 4. Accounting for all supplies will have to be religious, otherwise you may start to believe that someone is stealing, unfounded 5. Labor costs will scare you stiff, but good labor has never been cheap. Foreman current rates should average daily at KES 1,500; fundi KES 1,000 and laborers at KES 450 6. Try to always challenge the thought pattern of your project team. Obviously you will not over-ride the professionals, but learn to question their suggestions based on logic 7. Finishing could actually finish you due to the costs, hence you have to be very hands-on at the stated stage 8. Labor cost on tile work should be based on square meters and the current going rate is not more than KES 250/sqm 9. If site doesn't have water or electricity connections, it is important to start chasing for the same as work progresses on site, else you may end up with a ready unit that has no utilities
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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