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The women of Awasi...SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Swenani
#81 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 5:58:17 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Zanze wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it also rape when 'consent' is forced?


I would think it is.


Then more rape occurs in our lives than we care to admit. In fact, we may be supporting rape by speaking against it. That could be a reason why no Wazuan seems to be celebrating rape.

Hahahaha! Is @impunity a misogynist, as some claim? Look at how he's campaigning against rape! Curious, isn't it?


misogynist > gynae > woman; Of course me disliking the fare sex is a make up of a few wazua losers!

Are you married? Kids? Na sivai helmet.


Do you shoot tail-less blanks? Na sivai safety head gear!


No I don't. Are you confessing?


No wonder the tell-tale signs!


Yeah, it's good that you know yourself. The first step at self improvement is to accept oneself. Bravo man!


I vividly remember a few months ago how you were chasing the behinds of one fellow man, a wazuan of kamba origin but thats a story for another day!

Wacha kupendua story....you dont seem to have an affinity to women, and to make matters worse, you swing dem hips and cry all the time. Anyway, where will you be swinging this furahiday?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So are you saying Impunity has affinity to Men?d'oh! d'oh!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Impunity
#82 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 6:05:01 PM
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Swenani wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Zanze wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it also rape when 'consent' is forced?


I would think it is.


Then more rape occurs in our lives than we care to admit. In fact, we may be supporting rape by speaking against it. That could be a reason why no Wazuan seems to be celebrating rape.

Hahahaha! Is @impunity a misogynist, as some claim? Look at how he's campaigning against rape! Curious, isn't it?


misogynist > gynae > woman; Of course me disliking the fare sex is a make up of a few wazua losers!

Are you married? Kids? Na sivai helmet.


Do you shoot tail-less blanks? Na sivai safety head gear!


No I don't. Are you confessing?


No wonder the tell-tale signs!


Yeah, it's good that you know yourself. The first step at self improvement is to accept oneself. Bravo man!


I vividly remember a few months ago how you were chasing the behinds of one fellow man, a wazuan of kamba origin but thats a story for another day!

Wacha kupendua story....you dont seem to have an affinity to women, and to make matters worse, you swing dem hips and cry all the time. Anyway, where will you be swinging this furahiday?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So are you saying Impunity has affinity to Men?d'oh! d'oh!


He has strong affinity to one @magigi, just dig up some old post utajionea.

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Wendz
#83 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 6:08:16 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Wendz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wendz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Pseudo-development in the house.

Women aren't being raped because there are no wells, they are being raped, and asked for sexual favors because that's as far as the community involved can think.

Wells have always been there even before 'currency'. So thinking taking your money there and 'development' ideology is an exercise in ostentation.


With your JUCHE you dont belong to this world.
Do you think the women would have been raped if the well were right in the town center and that we had like say 10 of the wells? Sometimes you need to reason like a human being and not a lost Dracula.


@Impunity, every time you speak, am horrified by the dangerous naivete you have.

Rape isn't about presence or lack of water. Let me give you an example. Fishing in lake Victoria involves something similar to what happens in Awasi.

Now with your pseudo-logic will you buy fish for the women to prevent them from their ordeals? Will you quit your job - since you have no use for your salary - to become a fisherman?

A lake can't prevent women for being raped, now what's 10,000 wells?

Dracula will eat you up, omera!


Before you call people names, some little education which will touch on what you have said.

There are many people who can get raped, but they do not. why? because there is no opportunity for them to get raped. There are many people who would ordinarily not go out to rape a woman if they have to struggle to do it. However, a woman walking at 2 am present an opportunity for a rapist to attack. This is what @impunity and the rest are trying to take care of, the opportunity to have these women raped. However, your example is totally different, it is one thing to willingly (sometimes due to lack of another alternative but willingly all the same) exchange your body for a favour or a fish, it is another when you are forced into it and your money and jerrycan is stolen.


1. Which names are you talking about?

2. What's an opportunity?


It's ok. forget about it. Please ignore my post.


@mum, t[color=green]he guy speaks a language called JUCHE[/color], you will do yourself a favor by ignoring him.
By the way jana ulikuwa waphi?
Sad


smile Nimeona wire zetu hazitaconnect even after 2030. Did i miss something?
Impunity
#84 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 6:32:41 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
Wendz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Wendz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wendz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Pseudo-development in the house.

Women aren't being raped because there are no wells, they are being raped, and asked for sexual favors because that's as far as the community involved can think.

Wells have always been there even before 'currency'. So thinking taking your money there and 'development' ideology is an exercise in ostentation.


With your JUCHE you dont belong to this world.
Do you think the women would have been raped if the well were right in the town center and that we had like say 10 of the wells? Sometimes you need to reason like a human being and not a lost Dracula.


@Impunity, every time you speak, am horrified by the dangerous naivete you have.

Rape isn't about presence or lack of water. Let me give you an example. Fishing in lake Victoria involves something similar to what happens in Awasi.

Now with your pseudo-logic will you buy fish for the women to prevent them from their ordeals? Will you quit your job - since you have no use for your salary - to become a fisherman?

A lake can't prevent women for being raped, now what's 10,000 wells?

Dracula will eat you up, omera!


Before you call people names, some little education which will touch on what you have said.

There are many people who can get raped, but they do not. why? because there is no opportunity for them to get raped. There are many people who would ordinarily not go out to rape a woman if they have to struggle to do it. However, a woman walking at 2 am present an opportunity for a rapist to attack. This is what @impunity and the rest are trying to take care of, the opportunity to have these women raped. However, your example is totally different, it is one thing to willingly (sometimes due to lack of another alternative but willingly all the same) exchange your body for a favour or a fish, it is another when you are forced into it and your money and jerrycan is stolen.


1. Which names are you talking about?

2. What's an opportunity?


It's ok. forget about it. Please ignore my post.


@mum, t[color=green]he guy speaks a language called JUCHE[/color], you will do yourself a favor by ignoring him.
By the way jana ulikuwa waphi?
Sad


smile Nimeona wire zetu hazitaconnect even after 2030. Did i miss something?


We had defined what JUCHE is and thus we now know where to place the @tycho guy; s/he is a spurious-human being!
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

simonkabz
#85 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 6:47:44 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
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Swenani wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Zanze wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it also rape when 'consent' is forced?


I would think it is.


Then more rape occurs in our lives than we care to admit. In fact, we may be supporting rape by speaking against it. That could be a reason why no Wazuan seems to be celebrating rape.

Hahahaha! Is @impunity a misogynist, as some claim? Look at how he's campaigning against rape! Curious, isn't it?


misogynist > gynae > woman; Of course me disliking the fare sex is a make up of a few wazua losers!

Are you married? Kids? Na sivai helmet.


Do you shoot tail-less blanks? Na sivai safety head gear!


No I don't. Are you confessing?


No wonder the tell-tale signs!


Yeah, it's good that you know yourself. The first step at self improvement is to accept oneself. Bravo man!


I vividly remember a few months ago how you were chasing the behinds of one fellow man, a wazuan of kamba origin but thats a story for another day!

Wacha kupendua story....you dont seem to have an affinity to women, and to make matters worse, you swing dem hips and cry all the time. Anyway, where will you be swinging this furahiday?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So are you saying Impunity has affinity to Men?d'oh! d'oh!

smile
He is your friend, when with him, watch your BACK......pun intended
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Impunity
#86 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 6:54:35 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
simonkabz wrote:
Swenani wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
Zanze wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it also rape when 'consent' is forced?


I would think it is.


Then more rape occurs in our lives than we care to admit. In fact, we may be supporting rape by speaking against it. That could be a reason why no Wazuan seems to be celebrating rape.

Hahahaha! Is @impunity a misogynist, as some claim? Look at how he's campaigning against rape! Curious, isn't it?


misogynist > gynae > woman; Of course me disliking the fare sex is a make up of a few wazua losers!

Are you married? Kids? Na sivai helmet.


Do you shoot tail-less blanks? Na sivai safety head gear!


No I don't. Are you confessing?


No wonder the tell-tale signs!


Yeah, it's good that you know yourself. The first step at self improvement is to accept oneself. Bravo man!


I vividly remember a few months ago how you were chasing the behinds of one fellow man, a wazuan of kamba origin but thats a story for another day!

Wacha kupendua story....you dont seem to have an affinity to women, and to make matters worse, you swing dem hips and cry all the time. Anyway, where will you be swinging this furahiday?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So are you saying Impunity has affinity to Men?d'oh! d'oh!

smile
He is your friend, when with him, watch your BACK......pun intended


Trying so hard to deflect!
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

tycho
#87 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 8:04:45 PM
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'Spurious' human being. Hahahaha!

'Fake human being'.

Poor slaves.
kysse
#88 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 10:56:47 PM
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smh!
Thread reads like 'The men of Awasi'.
tycho
#89 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 11:39:39 PM
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kysse wrote:
smh!
Thread reads like 'The men of Awasi'.


What do you mean?
kysse
#90 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 11:45:41 PM
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tycho wrote:
kysse wrote:
smh!
Thread reads like 'The men of Awasi'.


What do you mean?


..read about them somewhere,can't rem...
tycho
#91 Posted: : Saturday, June 28, 2014 4:12:33 AM
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I see that some of us think that @impunity's idea can be helpful; but it's easy to show that digging the proposed wells will do nothing but create more trouble for the people of Awasi.

For example, will @impunity expect positive cash/economic returns from digging the wells?
kysse
#92 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:38:18 AM
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tycho wrote:
I see that some of us think that @impunity's idea can be helpful; but it's easy to show that digging the proposed wells will do nothing but create more trouble for the people of Awasi.

For example, will @impunity expect positive cash/economic returns from digging the wells?


the women organised themselves and dug well.
After seeing the demand for the precious commodity rise,they decided to sell the water as an income generating activity before the hyenas stepped in.

What I don'y understand is 'whose women are these and aren't these men their relas? it's a village rem.
tycho
#93 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:26:19 AM
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kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
I see that some of us think that @impunity's idea can be helpful; but it's easy to show that digging the proposed wells will do nothing but create more trouble for the people of Awasi.

For example, will @impunity expect positive cash/economic returns from digging the wells?


the women organised themselves and dug well.
After seeing the demand for the precious commodity rise,they decided to sell the water as an income generating activity before the hyenas stepped in.

What I don'y understand is 'whose women are these and aren't these men their relas? it's a village rem.


And if @impunity digs wells, how will he keep the 'hyenas' off?
simonkabz
#94 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:34:11 AM
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tycho wrote:
kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
I see that some of us think that @impunity's idea can be helpful; but it's easy to show that digging the proposed wells will do nothing but create more trouble for the people of Awasi.

For example, will @impunity expect positive cash/economic returns from digging the wells?


the women organised themselves and dug well.
After seeing the demand for the precious commodity rise,they decided to sell the water as an income generating activity before the hyenas stepped in.

What I don'y understand is 'whose women are these and aren't these men their relas? it's a village rem.


And if @impunity digs wells, how will he keep the 'hyenas' off?

He is digging no well, just yapping and shedding crocodile tears.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kysse
#95 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:35:28 AM
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^^ oh tycho thought it was a real deal? Laughing out loudly

tycho wrote:

And if one digs wells, how will he keep the 'hyenas' off?


Well. the men who dug the first well ended up becoming the hyenas.
The sober men can form vigilantes to escort the women,but where are they? the brothers,uncles,hubby's.
Why are we even bothered when their MCA's are burning cash!
tycho
#96 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:45:03 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
tycho wrote:
kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
I see that some of us think that @impunity's idea can be helpful; but it's easy to show that digging the proposed wells will do nothing but create more trouble for the people of Awasi.

For example, will @impunity expect positive cash/economic returns from digging the wells?


the women organised themselves and dug well.
After seeing the demand for the precious commodity rise,they decided to sell the water as an income generating activity before the hyenas stepped in.

What I don'y understand is 'whose women are these and aren't these men their relas? it's a village rem.


And if @impunity digs wells, how will he keep the 'hyenas' off?

He is digging no well, just yapping and shedding crocodile tears.


Very well.
tycho
#97 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:51:37 AM
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kysse wrote:
^^ oh tycho thought it was a real deal? Laughing out loudly

tycho wrote:

And if one digs wells, how will he keep the 'hyenas' off?


Well. the men who dug the first well ended up becoming the hyenas.
The sober men can form vigilantes to escort the women,but where are they? the brothers,uncles,hubby's.
Why are we even bothered when their MCA's are burning cash!


Thoughts are real @ kysse.

What if the sober men escort the ladies to the well and find the hyenas on guard? If the sober can solve this, why couldn't they dig and protect the well(s) before?

Why do you think the MCAs 'burn cash'?
Dahatre
#98 Posted : Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:50:59 AM
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I support the women of Awasi and those who advocate for them and will contribute to a well if an accountable system to get water to them is set up.

That said, I think Society has given up on figuring out how to stop a few men from raping. Instead we would rather create elaborate systems to support, blame or otherwise put the burden of rape on women…#rapeculture
tycho
#99 Posted : Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:52:42 PM
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Dahatre wrote:
I support the women of Awasi and those who advocate for them and will contribute to a well if an accountable system to get water to them is set up.

That said, I think Society has given up on figuring out how to stop a few men from raping. Instead we would rather create elaborate systems to support, blame or otherwise put the burden of rape on women…#rapeculture


To be rid of this rape culture, we may need precision in our language.

For example, in this case, what's an accountable system? How does it work? To whom is it accountable? Why?

Otherwise we may speak pleasantly and work ineffectually.
Njung'e
#100 Posted : Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:21:07 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
[quote=tycho][quote=kysse][quote=tycho]
He is digging no well, just yapping and shedding crocodile tears.


I also think it's just a stunt but we will praise God if he digs one damn holesmile
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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