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Kenya Police ready to serve?
muganda
#1 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 4:56:28 PM
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How ready and equipped for this war? Government drives state of the art vehicles, use state of the art phones, live in mansions... but it's the Police who must secure the country d'oh!

alma
#2 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 4:58:43 PM
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You are absolutely right. I have stopped blaming the police anymore. Now I blame the policy makers. 28 million will not buy you a house in South C Somali heaven. How are they supposed to find terrorists with that kind of money?
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
ecstacy
#3 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 5:00:47 PM
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@Muganda, you raise a fundamental point. The service is seriously under resourced for the changing security environment and it is naive to expect them to put their lives on the line whilst operating on an inferior level to the enemy.

In Nigeria, Boko Haram ambushed the military and killed soldiers then when instructions were given to the rest of the troops in barracks, they started shooting in the air instead of going to combat. Boko Haram is actually now literally paying it's members more than the Nigerian military.

As a society, the problems are bigger than simply shouting "garment" every time you hear a bang. We all must be ready to make sacrifices as the resources and demands on them are not commensurate. Our elected members in Parliament representing you and you yourself via the County Finance must be willing to query and re-allocate resource if the government has failed to do so whilst demanding transparency with what has been expended. There is no real development without security.
alma
#4 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 5:06:10 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
@Muganda, you raise a fundamental point. The service is seriously under resourced for the changing security environment and it is naive to expect them to put their lives on the line whilst operating on an inferior level to the enemy.

In Nigeria, Boko Haram ambushed the military and killed soldiers then when instructions were given to the rest of the troops in barracks, they started shooting in the air instead of going to combat.

As a society, the problems are bigger than simply shouting "garment" every time you hear a bang. We all must be ready to make sacrifices as the resources and demands on them are not commensurate.


Some of us Mr. the society are of the view that we stop giving the first lady 140 million, the Deputy lady 70 million and increase the anti-terrorism funds from 28 million. I wonder what the society has to do with that one. It's actually Uhuru's gov't doing it.

But what do you think we should do?

We don't fund the police we get D+ fellows.

Police reforms was voted in by the people. The current gov't has all but forgotten about it. Cops still live in silly houses while protecting a gov't official who says that Raira is causing mayhem in Kenya.

Respectfully.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
washiku
#5 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 10:26:05 PM
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Si Safaricom ilete paybill tuchange basi..
kysse
#6 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 10:36:29 PM
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muganda wrote:
How ready and equipped for this war? Government drives state of the art vehicles, use state of the art phones, live in mansions... but it's the Police who must secure the country d'oh!




See a police chicken suffering.

I rem a time when kalonzo was vp and some incident happened at Kamiti. Reforms began which were meant to address this very problem.
What happened and why does it take ages to build them better staff houses?
argh if this is the situation what will stop the corruption?

washiku
#7 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 10:58:40 PM
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But this may not be this way for long

1. A police housing project on course

2. Police Insurance in place come July.

3. A massive police communication system being set up by Safaricom.

4. Police Stations being supplied with vehicles. Some county governments too have come to their rescue on vehicles issue.

5. Police salaries and allowances have been improved, albeit slightly as they had been promised.

6. More police recruited. About 7000 this year.

If this trend continues, then things might be better for their welfare. They should also "pay back" by offering better services.
alma
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:42:21 AM
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Washiku, you are a very moral and positive thinking Kenyan. Good on you.

But in the meantime

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
washiku
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:27:26 AM
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alma wrote:
Washiku, you are a very moral and positive thinking Kenyan. Good on you.

But in the meantime



This is definitely unacceptable. It is obviously a result of years of irresponsible leadership that did little to invest in the security system. All in all, am saying this might be changed if the current trend continues. Am also very excited that the guys will be insured going forward. That is something I have always wondered why it never happened from the word go.

On the flip side, I doubt whether the police will reciprocate. A good number of them justify their corrupt ways with «small salary, poor working conditions, neglect, etc. Jana a police man wanted me to give him something so that his people can get something to eat. I told him if I that happens, it means my people will have to sleep hungry so that his people eats coz all I was having was enough to feed my people. He would even ashamedly touch the fabric of my shirt to say there is no way mine could be suffering like his yet I am wearing such a "nice and expensive" shirt(crap). If the frame of his body could be used to measure his well being, in the same mentality, he is doing very well. Much more better. Some police likes surviving on this victim mentality forgetting we too are suffering from a mismanaged economy.

It's a two edged sword.
Ngong
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:33:13 PM
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Kama mshahara ni mbaya na nyumba,I keep asking myself why stay?,Have you ever seen a policeman/woman who just quit that force to do other better things?
I have seen many military!
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