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sparkly
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:14:00 PM
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jawgey wrote:
georgegop wrote:
Ksh 9.5/= per share it is!


versus a par value of sh.4. mmmhhh

Par value means nothing really.
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Tall Order
#22 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 4:06:52 AM
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@Sparkly, what do you reckon? is NSE IPO a BUY?
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#23 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 8:28:44 AM
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Anyone with a link to the IM or more details of this offer?
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#24 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 8:50:12 AM
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psalms 23 wrote:
Nse will be among those illiquid stocks.nobody will be willing to sell especially those stockbrokers and investment banks

i think they will also try to increase their stake by continuous buying
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Aguytrying
#25 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 1:08:20 PM
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littledove wrote:
psalms 23 wrote:
Nse will be among those illiquid stocks.nobody will be willing to sell especially those stockbrokers and investment banks

i think they will also try to increase their stake by continuous buying


watch and learn my friends. willing buyers, willing sellers. they haven't been locked in 50% for 2 yrs for no reason
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jawgey
#26 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 3:21:30 PM
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psalms 23 wrote:
Nse will be among those illiquid stocks.nobody will be willing to sell especially those stockbrokers and investment banks


Agreed. 66million shares are very few for the market. most of the shares will be taken up by institutions leaving retail investors with actually nothing to trade
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#27 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 4:19:47 PM
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Nse is a buy!,buy!,buy!.the real meaning of skyrocking.
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#28 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 5:07:43 PM
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psalms 23 wrote:
Nse is a buy!,buy!,buy!.the real meaning of skyrocking.


Elaborate. What is the fair value of NSE?
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murchr
#29 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 6:04:08 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
psalms 23 wrote:
Nse is a buy!,buy!,buy!.the real meaning of skyrocking.


Elaborate. What is the fair value of NSE?


Its stopped being "that illiquid stock"?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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#30 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 7:17:22 PM
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psalms 23 wrote:
Nse is a buy!,buy!,buy!.the real meaning of skyrocking.

QW25071985 incarnate?
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#31 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 7:42:59 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Anyone with a link to the IM or more details of this offer?


Try this for more details as at today

http://www.standardmedia...ring-at-sh9-50-per-share
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jawgey
#32 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 8:37:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
psalms 23 wrote:
Nse is a buy!,buy!,buy!.the real meaning of skyrocking.


Elaborate. What is the fair value of NSE?


Its stopped being "that illiquid stock"?


For a moment this guy confused me. I guess to him the illiquid stocks are the performers
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#33 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:52:56 PM
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Because i love wazua so much i got my hands dirty and dug up the fundamentos of the NSE.
First, i think it will sky rocket! here are the numbers. please if there's a querry, support it with a calculation.

Im using 212,500,000 as the shares for all calculations. And IPO price at 9.50

FY 2013.

PAT- kshs 262.26 million
EPS- 1.23
P/E- 7.7
NAV- 3.44
P/B- 2.8

FY 2012.

PAT- Kshs 84.8 million
EPS- 0.39
PE- 24.4
NAV- 2.32
P/B- 4.1

Conclusion
The shares are being sold at a premium, which is expected. The company performed very well last year, a record profit in the 60 years it has been a company. We cant assume that the company will always do this well. however the profit level could be a new normal for the good years at the bourse like this year is turning out to be. moreover with new products in the pipeline, this level of profit may at least be maintained in the coming years, as long as a bear doesn't show up.

This IPO gets the coveted AGUYS stamp of approval. I'll be signing myself up for some to ride the the excitement....then.... sell to a kamtu at a yet to be disclosed price smile Drool
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The optimist
#34 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:47:28 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Because i love wazua so much i got my hands dirty and dug up the fundamentos of the NSE.
First, i think it will sky rocket! here are the numbers. please if there's a querry, support it with a calculation.

Im using 212,500,000 as the shares for all calculations. And IPO price at 9.50

FY 2013.

PAT- kshs 262.26 million
EPS- 1.23
P/E- 7.7
NAV- 3.44
P/B- 2.8

FY 2012.

PAT- Kshs 84.8 million
EPS- 0.39
PE- 24.4
NAV- 2.32
P/B- 4.1

Conclusion
The shares are being sold at a premium, which is expected. The company performed very well last year, a record profit in the 60 years it has been a company. We cant assume that the company will always do this well. however the profit level could be a new normal for the good years at the bourse like this year is turning out to be. moreover with new products in the pipeline, this level of profit may at least be maintained in the coming years, as long as a bear doesn't show up.

This IPO gets the coveted AGUYS stamp of approval. I'll be signing myself up for some to ride the the excitement....then.... sell to a kamtu at a yet to be disclosed price smile Drool


Thanks @Aguy
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patrazi
#35 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:19:17 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Because i love wazua so much i got my hands dirty and dug up the fundamentos of the NSE.
First, i think it will sky rocket! here are the numbers. please if there's a querry, support it with a calculation.

Im using 212,500,000 as the shares for all calculations. And IPO price at 9.50

FY 2013.

PAT- kshs 262.26 million
EPS- 1.23
P/E- 7.7
NAV- 3.44
P/B- 2.8

FY 2012.

PAT- Kshs 84.8 million
EPS- 0.39
PE- 24.4
NAV- 2.32
P/B- 4.1

Conclusion
The shares are being sold at a premium, which is expected. The company performed very well last year, a record profit in the 60 years it has been a company. We cant assume that the company will always do this well. however the profit level could be a new normal for the good years at the bourse like this year is turning out to be. moreover with new products in the pipeline, this level of profit may at least be maintained in the coming years, as long as a bear doesn't show up.

This IPO gets the coveted AGUYS stamp of approval. I'll be signing myself up for some to ride the the excitement....then.... sell to a kamtu at a yet to be disclosed price smile Drool
Thanks. Hope my sincere thanks help clean up ur hands after labouring hard for wazuans.
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Tall Order
#36 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:49:11 PM
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Great stuff @Aguy, we're following keenly
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jawgey
#37 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:14:25 PM
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many thanks @aguy. I'll have to wait for the dust to settle on this one. so probably hako 'kamtu' utauzia baadaye ni mimi..
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Aguytrying
#38 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:31:45 PM
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jawgey wrote:
many thanks @aguy. I'll have to wait for the dust to settle on this one. so probably hako 'kamtu' utauzia baadaye ni mimi..


welcome guys. hands are getting clean now. wazua spirit. but nituzia kamtu when the dust is in the air.
this is one easy stock to play. how? when there's a bear pile in. when the market recovers like in 2014, mad rally. coz Like fy 2012/2013 is around 160% increase in profit. it could track the index ala safcom though delayed
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Sober
#39 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:08:55 PM
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When are the shares being floated? *waving my wallet*
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#40 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:42:15 AM
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Be cautious. The highlighted line poses the risk of profit warning this year
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