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mtaalamu
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:48:20 AM
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I just saw in the news that NSE is planning to list some it's shares from June this year, but from an investor point of view I do not see why anyone would like to put their money in NSE . Unlike a normal company with products and/or services that generates revenue or losses for that matter,NSE does not seem to have anything to offer in return for investors' cash.. Or am I missing something??
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:46:15 AM
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mtaalamu wrote:
I just saw in the news that NSE is planning to list some it's shares from June this year, but from an investor point of view I do not see why anyone would like to put their money in NSE . Unlike a normal company with products and/or services that generates revenue or losses for that matter,NSE does not seem to have anything to offer in return for investors' cash.. Or am I missing something??


I will not be surprised if in the long run they end up being bought out by a bigger one like JSE or London Stock Exchange.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:57:04 AM
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Nse will be among those illiquid stocks.nobody will be willing to sell especially those stockbrokers and investment banks
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:29:02 AM
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INTERESTING! wrote:
mtaalamu wrote:
I just saw in the news that NSE is planning to list some it's shares from June this year, but from an investor point of view I do not see why anyone would like to put their money in NSE . Unlike a normal company with products and/or services that generates revenue or losses for that matter,NSE does not seem to have anything to offer in return for investors' cash.. Or am I missing something??


I will not be surprised if in the long run they end up being bought out by a bigger one like JSE or London Stock Exchange.


They make their money by charging you fees when you trade your shares.

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jawgey
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:21:24 PM
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As long as we continue trading(I doubt we'll stop) the NSE will always get its share. There is definitely great growth prospects in the NSE
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georgegop
#6 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 4:14:18 PM
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Nairobi bourse to sell up to 38 pc stake in IPO
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ngapat
#7 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 9:49:16 PM
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Will buy some
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:07:53 AM
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Where ar the gurus? To buy or not to buy? Why?
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hisah
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:54:03 AM
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Need to see the prospectus first. But I'd prefer an index ETF (FTSE NSE15 or 25) than owning the shares of an exchange.

Will NSE continue to grow? Yes as well as from other securities they'll launch.
Will it grow at the 2013 pace? Not easy to repeat that growth.
Will NSE face another exchange rival(s) in future? Likely.

Since this KE exchange is still a toddler, I'd rate it a buy as it still has room for growth as EAC econ expands enabling more listings. NSE has a few firms listed (some which hardly trade for days/weeks) compared with JSE or egypt or nigeria exchanges; it's a toddler. Then look at the other EAC exchanges that have lesser listed firms and static trading...
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:38:54 AM
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Hisah, I presume PPT will always watch over it. At a price of 4/= for 81 million shares, an oversubscription in the making besides it looks "cheap". Hope the PE is below 10.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:51:47 AM
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I thought kshs4 is per value
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:56:29 AM
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hisah wrote:
Need to see the prospectus first. But I'd prefer an index ETF (FTSE NSE15 or 25) than owning the shares of an exchange.

Will NSE continue to grow? Yes as well as from other securities they'll launch.
Will it grow at the 2013 pace? Not easy to repeat that growth.
Will NSE face another exchange rival(s) in future? Likely.

Since this KE exchange is still a toddler, I'd rate it a buy as it still has room for growth as EAC econ expands enabling more listings. NSE has a few firms listed (some which hardly trade for days/weeks) compared with JSE or egypt or nigeria exchanges; it's a toddler. Then look at the other EAC exchanges that have lesser listed firms and static trading...

The zillion dollar question.
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maka
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:43:23 AM
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Sufficiently
Philanga....thropic wrote:
hisah wrote:
Need to see the prospectus first. But
I'd prefer an index ETF (FTSE NSE15 or 25) than owning the shares of an
exchange.

Will NSE continue to grow? Yes as well as from other securities they'll
launch.
Will it grow at the 2013 pace? Not easy to repeat that growth.
Will NSE face another exchange rival(s) in future?
Likely.

Since this KE exchange is still a toddler, I'd rate it a buy as it still
has room for growth as EAC econ expands enabling more listings. NSE has
a few firms listed (some which hardly trade for days/weeks) compared
with JSE or egypt or nigeria exchanges; it's a toddler. Then look at the
other EAC exchanges that have lesser listed firms and static trading...

The zillion dollar question.

It will definetly one day...
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mwekez@ji
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:48:04 AM
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I don't see our greedy brokers selling us their company cheaply #Awaiting.IM
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holycow
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:13:55 AM
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I've re-read the article on Business Daily page 2. Yes, 4/= is the par value and not the offer price. Thanks for the correction.
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ProverB
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:52:54 PM
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Do not underestimate the greed of our brokers. Price will be too exaggerated, promising a very lofty future.
As with other IPOs..eg cfci,Britak..I'm sitting out..and chilling for when sense and reality sinks in.
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VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:32:53 AM
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I will read the prospectus BUT I doubt I will buy [except the minimum] during the IPO.

Why?

1) The profits are from INVESTORS [you and me] and to boost profits they will refuse to reduce commission rates! Look how much the NSE gets. It's too high vs other busy or developed [don't look backwards at developing/African markets] markets.

2) Greed. The idea is to maximize the revenue for NSE [& its brokers] and that means a high PER. There are probably better buys elsewhere. And the brokers know more than we do.

3) 2014 will not show the same growth as 2013 y-o-y. And without new products and listings the trading volumes will remain stagnant.
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Mainat
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:20:06 AM
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AS a business I would not buy into it, since the NSE has so many low hanging fruits and they've been unable to pick. IF its priced sensibly, I'll gamble
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georgegop
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:44:25 PM
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Ksh 9.5/= per share it is!
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jawgey
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:49:11 PM
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georgegop wrote:
Ksh 9.5/= per share it is!


versus a par value of sh.4. mmmhhh
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