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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/19/2014 Posts: 25
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Greetings newbies and vets
I am a veteran troller, but a newbie poster.
I would like to know this:
1 - How many units can i build on a 1/4 acre plot? Take into account parking. Clothes shall be hung on the roof.
2 - How high up can i go storey-wise?
Any info would be good. Thanks.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Have you seen any a4architect1@gmail.comso much of him ata on twitter Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@637 depends on location n target market eg high end, low end etc etc As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/19/2014 Posts: 25
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It's just basic 2bdr with rent of 14-18k per month. disregard all other dependencies.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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the vertical limit depends on the zoning regulations set by the county govt. In some areas eg utawala its 2 levels and in some areas eg ngara it can go to 10 levels high. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2008 Posts: 84
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a4architect.com wrote:the vertical limit depends on the zoning regulations set by the county govt. In some areas eg utawala its 2 levels and in some areas eg ngara it can go to 10 levels high. @a4architect Was in Utawala over the weekend and have seen flats going up to 4 levels..did the regulations change? Life and beer are very similar........chill for best results.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Most buildings east of Nairobi are unapproved and thus put up illegally. The land doesn't have titles, only share certificates and so owners can't get approvals from city hall. Thus developers normally "see the kanjo guys on the ground kando" and give them some 30-50k chai so that the developer hawasumbuliwi during construction.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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iMANI wrote:a4architect.com wrote:the vertical limit depends on the zoning regulations set by the county govt. In some areas eg utawala its 2 levels and in some areas eg ngara it can go to 10 levels high. @a4architect Was in Utawala over the weekend and have seen flats going up to 4 levels..did the regulations change? @imani, the utawala , syokimau and ruai areas are flight paths for the JKIA planes . Nairobi county ensures the height is low so as to avoid interference with the flight path. Could be the flight paths have changed so buildings can be allowed to go high in some regions . Also, most buildings in nairobi are un approved so maybe the owners are not aware of such regulations. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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657300 wrote:Greetings newbies and vets
I am a veteran troller, but a newbie poster.
I would like to know this:
1 - How many units can i build on a 1/4 acre plot? Take into account parking. Clothes shall be hung on the roof.
2 - How high up can i go storey-wise?
Any info would be good. Thanks.
you didn't answer his question? i am also curious.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/3/2009 Posts: 12 Location: Nairobi
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The number of units depends on what type and size of unit.
What do you have in mind? 3br, 2br units, singles or bedsitters?
Height depends on location and zoning regulations. Where is your plot located?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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A guy has put up a flat with 84 one bedroom units on 1/4 acre next to Thika road mall. Each going for 20k. Total income is Ksh 1,680,000 per month.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 288
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jaggernaut wrote:A guy has put up a flat with 84 one bedroom units on 1/4 acre next to Thika road mall. Each going for 20k. Total income is Ksh 1,680,000 per month. @ jaggernaut Roughly how much has he incurred in building the flat?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Jitahidi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:A guy has put up a flat with 84 one bedroom units on 1/4 acre next to Thika road mall. Each going for 20k. Total income is Ksh 1,680,000 per month. @ jaggernaut Roughly how much has he incurred in building the flat? I don't know the cost. But the flat has about 7 floors (ground plus 6 storeys). Anyway assuming each unit is 35m2 at a construction cost of 20-25k per m2 the total would be about 60-73.5m. The plot is connected to sewer.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/19/2014 Posts: 25
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Shefad wrote:The number of units depends on what type and size of unit.
What do you have in mind? 3br, 2br units, singles or bedsitters?
Height depends on location and zoning regulations. Where is your plot located? The plot is in Kajiado somewhere in Oltepesi. I'm planning for 2bdr for between 14-18k pm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@657300, oltepesi is 68.3km from nairobi cbd https://maps.google.com/...t=h&mra=ls&z=15
It will take 100 years for the area to warrant an apartment block type of house. People build upwards vertically when the cost of acquiring extra land goes higher than the cost of laying a suspended concrete slab. An acre of land in oltepesi is around kes 100k. http://www.olx.co.ke/q/oltepesi/c-410
Untill the acre goes till kes 14m,in the year 2114, it will not be feasible to go the extra headache of vertical high rise building. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi
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657300 wrote:Shefad wrote:The number of units depends on what type and size of unit.
What do you have in mind? 3br, 2br units, singles or bedsitters?
Height depends on location and zoning regulations. Where is your plot located? The plot is in Kajiado somewhere in Oltepesi. I'm planning for 2bdr for between 14-18k pm. Oltepesi apartments?Not in the near future. 2 bedroom apartments in Rongai go for 14-22K....which is 40Kms BEFORE Oltepesi. It will be a very hard sell even if you manage to build. Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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@ 657300
Sorry to hijack this thread, but wanted to ask a4architect.com, just how cost-effective and what are my %age savings in building using waffles in lieu of the usual concete/ chuma slab mixture?
What if I use chuma for trusses instead of wood?
This is for a 4-bdrm maisonette.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/19/2014 Posts: 25
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Intelligentsia wrote:@ 657300
Sorry to hijack this thread, but wanted to ask a4architect.com, just how cost-effective and what are my %age savings in building using waffles in lieu of the usual concete/ chuma slab mixture?
What if I use chuma for trusses instead of wood?
This is for a 4-bdrm maisonette. hijack all you can. don't be afraid to do so. it will add to the quality of information we receive 
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/19/2014 Posts: 25
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@bird_man and @a4, thanks for the advice. It seems then that it would be an idea for a time far away from now... I was banking on the fact that the Greater Southern Bypass was going to pass there maybe in the next 10 years. But 2114 hehehe I'll be an ancestor by then!  But, from some pdf i found here (jump to page 21 to 22), and doing some layman's analysis using Google Maps, it seems the Greater Southern Bypass will not reach that area. Anyone with concrete information? Jump to page 21/22 http://www.unep.org/tran...e_MichaelNjonge_KURA.pdf
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