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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#2901 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:37:33 PM
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mnandii wrote:
wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:


The NSE 20 Share Index. Though the index is falling, it should find support at 3500 - 3440 or extend further to 3280s (though the 3500 - 3440 is more probable). This is a zigzag formation where waves (a) (b) are complete. The index is now tracing out an impulsive wave (c). Once the bottom of wave (c) is established expect the index to rise above the previous high of 4100


Pray “In God we trust; but all others must bring data.”

Index is at 3445 on 22nd May, 2018.


If it continues further down then we look to the target at 3280s level.
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mnandii
#2902 Posted : Monday, May 28, 2018 5:58:42 PM
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USDKES. The pair has completed an Elliott Wave zigzag ABC. Expect a move UP past the previous high of 106.
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lochaz-index
#2903 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:27:23 PM
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wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
wukan wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
NASI hit an all time high yesterday at 186.6 with the NSE20 checking in at 3840 inches below a critical resistance point @3850. I think we have attained the March high as previously alluded to. Don't see much upside from here. Calling for a top. Bulls should get concerned if the downleg breaches 3450.


The macros point to different scenarios. CBK is pushing hard on monetary easing with all the risks. Treasury pushing on the fiscal consolidation while reforming the rate cap. Let's wait and see if the bulls will refuse.


The bulls refused. Nairobi 20 decreased 26 points or 0.69% to 3745 on Wednesday April 18 from 3771. 3676 is the area to watch next. Safaricom is taking us gently down the streamsmile


Market correction across all counters apart from a few which are resisting

These rock and roll type of rallies don't last long. Remember the one in 2010 after GFC...hard and fast...I tried chasing prices but couldn't then came the drop soon after. This one had all the characteristics of the 2010 rally down to a tee. Felt toppish after the August top which was followed by a consolidation (for six months) then the bottom falls out. Not to mention the bull was mainly pushed by banking stocks plus safaricom and all had heavy legs. Waiting to see how deep the correction will be which is mostly going to be determined by the severity of the fiscal crisis.

ION, 10yr UST is about to vault past the 3% mark, KES touched sub-100 intra-day(with a record reserve ammo to boot), crude is toppish at >$70pb and the USD is just coming out of a multi-year low. Reversals abound.


For now it's time to watch the dollar index in order to correctly catch the NSE waves. With muscular reserves CBK would have done monetary easing wonders if the rate cap was not around.

NSE20 punctured the 3450 level albeit on decelerating momentum. USD slowly inching up though yet to recover the 100 mark - will be interesting to see where KES will end at once the rally over. 10 year UST took a breather below the 3% mark to recharge.

Still a smoke and mirrors game when it comes to crude though very toppish. Some trigger somewhere must go off for the markets to align properly (China looks more and more like the snowflake that begets an avalanche).
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wukan
#2904 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:31:01 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
wukan wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
NASI hit an all time high yesterday at 186.6 with the NSE20 checking in at 3840 inches below a critical resistance point @3850. I think we have attained the March high as previously alluded to. Don't see much upside from here. Calling for a top. Bulls should get concerned if the downleg breaches 3450.


The macros point to different scenarios. CBK is pushing hard on monetary easing with all the risks. Treasury pushing on the fiscal consolidation while reforming the rate cap. Let's wait and see if the bulls will refuse.


The bulls refused. Nairobi 20 decreased 26 points or 0.69% to 3745 on Wednesday April 18 from 3771. 3676 is the area to watch next. Safaricom is taking us gently down the streamsmile


Market correction across all counters apart from a few which are resisting

These rock and roll type of rallies don't last long. Remember the one in 2010 after GFC...hard and fast...I tried chasing prices but couldn't then came the drop soon after. This one had all the characteristics of the 2010 rally down to a tee. Felt toppish after the August top which was followed by a consolidation (for six months) then the bottom falls out. Not to mention the bull was mainly pushed by banking stocks plus safaricom and all had heavy legs. Waiting to see how deep the correction will be which is mostly going to be determined by the severity of the fiscal crisis.

ION, 10yr UST is about to vault past the 3% mark, KES touched sub-100 intra-day(with a record reserve ammo to boot), crude is toppish at >$70pb and the USD is just coming out of a multi-year low. Reversals abound.


For now it's time to watch the dollar index in order to correctly catch the NSE waves. With muscular reserves CBK would have done monetary easing wonders if the rate cap was not around.

NSE20 punctured the 3450 level albeit on decelerating momentum. USD slowly inching up though yet to recover the 100 mark - will be interesting to see where KES will end at once the rally over. 10 year UST took a breather below the 3% mark to recharge.

Still a smoke and mirrors game when it comes to crude though very toppish. Some trigger somewhere must go off for the markets to align properly (China looks more and more like the snowflake that begets an avalanche).


Nairobi 20 increased 14 points or 0.41% to 3359 on Tuesday May 29 from 3345...

Time to take a breather. June will be interesting. The Fed still needs to break junk bonds. The carnage always starts there. I don't crude is toppish it will easily go $100 and beyond.
shiznit
#2905 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:04:55 PM
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mnandii wrote:


USDKES. The pair has completed an Elliott Wave zigzag ABC. Expect a move UP past the previous high of 106.



I find the nexus between technical and fundamental analysis incredibly intriguing. In this case, this holds water if you consider that the KRA Tax Amnesty will come to a close at the end of June 2018. Current USDKES prices are a result of the influx of repatriated funds IMO. When that tap dries up.... Pray
“The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
bartum
#2906 Posted : Friday, June 01, 2018 4:28:50 PM
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NSE 20 now at 3333,where are headed, will kcb come below 40
bartum
#2907 Posted : Friday, June 01, 2018 4:30:20 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:


The NSE 20 Share Index. Though the index is falling, it should find support at 3500 - 3440 or extend further to 3280s (though the 3500 - 3440 is more probable). This is a zigzag formation where waves (a) (b) are complete. The index is now tracing out an impulsive wave (c). Once the bottom of wave (c) is established expect the index to rise above the previous high of 4100


Pray “In God we trust; but all others must bring data.”

Index is at 3445 on 22nd May, 2018.


If it continues further down then we look to the target at 3280s level.

Is it 3250
Angelica _ann
#2908 Posted : Friday, June 01, 2018 4:33:53 PM
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bartum wrote:
NSE 20 now at 3333,where are headed, will kcb come below 40


Waiting for NIC @30 smile
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wukan
#2909 Posted : Friday, June 01, 2018 5:59:41 PM
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bartum wrote:
NSE 20 now at 3333,where are headed, will kcb come below 40


Largely depends on the outcome of the cat fight between treasury and the CBK. From what I see in the longer NSE 20 chart 2500 is a possibility to complete the double bottom
bartum
#2910 Posted : Monday, June 04, 2018 10:18:51 AM
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wukan wrote:
bartum wrote:
NSE 20 now at 3333,where are headed, will kcb come below 40


Largely depends on the outcome of the cat fight between treasury and the CBK. From what I see in the longer NSE 20 chart 2500 is a possibility to complete the double bottom

I pray day and night we get 2500
wukan
#2911 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 10:44:50 AM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:


The NSE 20 Share Index. Though the index is falling, it should find support at 3500 - 3440 or extend further to 3280s (though the 3500 - 3440 is more probable). This is a zigzag formation where waves (a) (b) are complete. The index is now tracing out an impulsive wave (c). Once the bottom of wave (c) is established expect the index to rise above the previous high of 4100


Pray “In God we trust; but all others must bring data.”

Index is at 3445 on 22nd May, 2018.


If it continues further down then we look to the target at 3280s level.


Nairobi 20 decreased 60 points or 1.80% to 3273 on Monday June 4 from 3333.That was a huge fall.

Fed's balance sheet reduction and US treasury borrowing to pay for Trump's tax cut drastically soaking up dollar liquidity. Dollars leaving periphery to return to the core. October will be peak.
mnandii
#2912 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:14:31 PM
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wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:


The NSE 20 Share Index. Though the index is falling, it should find support at 3500 - 3440 or extend further to 3280s (though the 3500 - 3440 is more probable). This is a zigzag formation where waves (a) (b) are complete. The index is now tracing out an impulsive wave (c). Once the bottom of wave (c) is established expect the index to rise above the previous high of 4100


Pray “In God we trust; but all others must bring data.”

Index is at 3445 on 22nd May, 2018.


If it continues further down then we look to the target at 3280s level.


Nairobi 20 decreased 60 points or 1.80% to 3273 on Monday June 4 from 3333.That was a huge fall.

Fed's balance sheet reduction and US treasury borrowing to pay for Trump's tax cut drastically soaking up dollar liquidity. Dollars leaving periphery to return to the core. October will be peak.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#2913 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:16:09 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
wukan wrote:
mnandii wrote:


The NSE 20 Share Index. Though the index is falling, it should find support at 3500 - 3440 or extend further to 3280s (though the 3500 - 3440 is more probable). This is a zigzag formation where waves (a) (b) are complete. The index is now tracing out an impulsive wave (c). Once the bottom of wave (c) is established expect the index to rise above the previous high of 4100


Pray “In God we trust; but all others must bring data.”

Index is at 3445 on 22nd May, 2018.


If it continues further down then we look to the target at 3280s level.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#2914 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:29:19 PM
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Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#2915 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:36:27 PM
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mnandii wrote:


Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.


Extending the philosophy further - Socionomics.

This rise in the NSE 20 Share Index to above 4100s should result in elevated social mood. Thus the noises about corruption scandals should subside or reduce in severity.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
lochaz-index
#2916 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 7:13:14 AM
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mnandii wrote:


Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.

That would make for an interesting market if it indeed does shoot above the previous 4114 high. Waiting to see how the market handles the 3000 level. I still favour the bears but a recharge of the downslide is needed to break below 3000.
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wukan
#2917 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:17:28 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.

That would make for an interesting market if it indeed does shoot above the previous 4114 high. Waiting to see how the market handles the 3000 level. I still favour the bears but a recharge of the downslide is needed to break below 3000.


Considering the macros I'm 50% doing shorts, 50% doing longs. If Treasury gets its way on the debt levels then NSE must start to factor in inflation so there is an upside. On the short term there is still no liquidity to break the 4100 level, I don't expect repeal of the interest caps any time soon until we see a more severe crisis which favours the bears below 3000.
lochaz-index
#2918 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 8:14:44 AM
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wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.

That would make for an interesting market if it indeed does shoot above the previous 4114 high. Waiting to see how the market handles the 3000 level. I still favour the bears but a recharge of the downslide is needed to break below 3000.


Considering the macros I'm 50% doing shorts, 50% doing longs. If Treasury gets its way on the debt levels then NSE must start to factor in inflation so there is an upside. On the short term there is still no liquidity to break the 4100 level, I don't expect repeal of the interest caps any time soon until we see a more severe crisis which favours the bears below 3000.

How about this for the macros:

1. A 3T budget is proposed with nearly 1T composed of debt repayment(I think it will exceed that number and then some). Budget deficits, fiscal consolidation and development be damned.

2. Debt ceiling fudging - apparently local debt is no longer considered - to increase borrowing appetite of GoK at the expense of the private sector.

3. Moving from manageable debt levels to a basket case is mostly hinged on interest rate levels not necessarily the accumulation of debt. The former changes drastically and impacts the debt service ratio drastically as opposed to the latter impacting on debt to GDP ratio which is a less telling metric on debt sustainability. This has put Italy in a tricky spot in a matter of weeks.

4. Inflation finance creates a false bull market kinda like stock splits and bonus issues.

5. Not accounting for wastage, embezzlement etc returns on GoK spending has been low and already in the diminishing marginal returns zone. So as the debt service ratio is increasing the corresponding returns are shrinking.

6. IMF driven reform/structural adjustments are a messy affair and involve alot of pain both the political elite(as the Jordanian PM and some Arabic countries are finding out) and the general population - via increased taxation which is already in motion for KE. Spending power and liquidity are the lifeblood of the stock market.
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#2919 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 10:56:48 AM
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wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Nse 20 share Index is at 3280s level which was our target from previous posts. At 3280s wave (c) is fibonacci 100% of wave (a). Also notice that the index is scraping the bottom of the parallel trend channel formed by drawing a line connecting the start of wave (a) and the end of wave (b) then drawing a parallel to pass through the end of wave (a). I expect that there may be one more slight dip below 3275 to fully complete wave (c). From that low expect the index to quickly retrace this fall and move up to beyond the previous high of 4100s.

That would make for an interesting market if it indeed does shoot above the previous 4114 high. Waiting to see how the market handles the 3000 level. I still favour the bears but a recharge of the downslide is needed to break below 3000.


Considering the macros I'm 50% doing shorts, 50% doing longs. If Treasury gets its way on the debt levels then NSE must start to factor in inflation so there is an upside. On the short term there is still no liquidity to break the 4100 level, I don't expect repeal of the interest caps any time soon until we see a more severe crisis which favours the bears below 3000.

How do you short in the KE market?
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VituVingiSana
#2920 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 11:04:53 AM
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@Lochaz: Applause Applause Applause
1) Agreed
2) That's very risky. And silly. How did they manage to get that passed?
3) Agreed. This is the argument I try to make to folks who keep on saying the Debt:GDP is manageable without understanding the "cost" of debt. The repayment structure of the Term Debt is also important if it cannot be rolled over at a "low rate" but try telling that to nincompoops.
4) Agreed. We saw that in the 90s. Many became much wealthier on paper but not in real terms.
5) GoK should not be in the business of Business. Look at KQ, Uchumi, NBK, Mumias, etc
6) Agreed. I recall the "The West Wing" clip when Arnold Vinick is explaining why Tax Cuts are the way to go to improve the lot of 3rd World Countries and why we have high taxes.
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