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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#2481 Posted : Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:28:14 PM
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VituVingiSana
#2482 Posted : Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:44:06 PM
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mnandii wrote:
How Fibonacci Ratios Govern the Stock Market

Scientists speculate that Elliott waves are the stock market's "critical structure"

In the 1930s, Ralph Nelson Elliott observed the Wave Principle in the stock market. Yet his work gained little notice from Wall Street.

In the decades that followed, a handful of analysts and forecasters kept Elliott's work from falling into obscurity.

But in recent decades, scientists re-discovered Elliott.

Consider this 1996 quotation from "Stock Market Crashes, Precursors and Replicas" in France's Journal of Physics:

We speculate that the 'Elliott waves' . . . could be a signature of an underlying critical structure of the stock market.

Robert Prechter put it this way:

Scientific discoveries have established that pattern formation is a fundamental characteristic of complex systems, which include financial markets. Some such systems undergo “punctuated growth,” [or] building fractally into similar patterns of increasing size. This is precisely the type of pattern identified in market movements by R.N. Elliott.

Nature is full of fractals.

Consider branching fractals such as blood vessels or trees: A small tree branch looks like an approximate replica of a big branch, and the big branch looks similar in form to the entire tree.

Now consider that most of nature's fractals are governed by the Fibonacci sequence. It begins with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the previous two: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 and so on. The Fibonacci sequence also governs the number of waves that form in the movement of aggregate stock prices.

Take a look at this figure from the Wall Street classic book, Elliott Wave Principle:



The book notes:

The essential structure of the market generates the complete Fibonacci sequence. The simplest expression of a correction is a straight-line decline. The simplest expression of an impulse is a straight-line advance. A complete cycle is two lines. In the next degree of complexity, the corresponding numbers are 3, 5 and 8. This sequence can be taken to infinity.

Right now, the math of the market reveals a big clue about the trend of stocks.

Aren't these graphs/patterns generated after the fact? How does one catch the bottom
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Spikes
#2483 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 5:49:59 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mnandii wrote:
How Fibonacci Ratios Govern the Stock Market

Scientists speculate that Elliott waves are the stock market's "critical structure"

In the 1930s, Ralph Nelson Elliott observed the Wave Principle in the stock market. Yet his work gained little notice from Wall Street.

In the decades that followed, a handful of analysts and forecasters kept Elliott's work from falling into obscurity.

But in recent decades, scientists re-discovered Elliott.

Consider this 1996 quotation from "Stock Market Crashes, Precursors and Replicas" in France's Journal of Physics:

We speculate that the 'Elliott waves' . . . could be a signature of an underlying critical structure of the stock market.

Robert Prechter put it this way:

Scientific discoveries have established that pattern formation is a fundamental characteristic of complex systems, which include financial markets. Some such systems undergo “punctuated growth,” [or] building fractally into similar patterns of increasing size. This is precisely the type of pattern identified in market movements by R.N. Elliott.

Nature is full of fractals.

Consider branching fractals such as blood vessels or trees: A small tree branch looks like an approximate replica of a big branch, and the big branch looks similar in form to the entire tree.

Now consider that most of nature's fractals are governed by the Fibonacci sequence. It begins with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the previous two: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 and so on. The Fibonacci sequence also governs the number of waves that form in the movement of aggregate stock prices.

Take a look at this figure from the Wall Street classic book, Elliott Wave Principle:



The book notes:

The essential structure of the market generates the complete Fibonacci sequence. The simplest expression of a correction is a straight-line decline. The simplest expression of an impulse is a straight-line advance. A complete cycle is two lines. In the next degree of complexity, the corresponding numbers are 3, 5 and 8. This sequence can be taken to infinity.

Right now, the math of the market reveals a big clue about the trend of stocks.

Aren't these graphs/patterns generated after the fact? How does one catch the bottom



That's it! The technic being used here is both short and long wave count... Obviously long complete wave count will land you on the bottom or peak..
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hisah
#2484 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 4:41:01 PM
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hisah wrote:
NSE20 started the week above 2900 and at the rate of losses this week it likely to finish sub 2800 handle tomorrow. Closed at 2824 for the day - losing streaking continues at 11.36% in the red YTD.

The trading pit this week would feel like this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyeg6aANcc

NSE20 closes the day at 2,789.64. The index can't catch a bid since the year started as the waterfall selloff continues! Losses to date 12.46%. Berserk January as despondency phase continues to clobber the market while the tape reels downhill faster.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
maka
#2485 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 4:48:57 PM
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hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
NSE20 started the week above 2900 and at the rate of losses this week it likely to finish sub 2800 handle tomorrow. Closed at 2824 for the day - losing streaking continues at 11.36% in the red YTD.

The trading pit this week would feel like this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyeg6aANcc

NSE20 closes the day at 2,789.64. The index can't catch a bid since the year started as the waterfall selloff continues! Losses to date 12.46%. Berserk January as despondency phase continues to clobber the market while the tape reels downhill faster.



This is baaaaaaddddd....Sad Sad Sad
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mnandii
#2486 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 7:01:25 PM
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Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mnandii wrote:
How Fibonacci Ratios Govern the Stock Market

Scientists speculate that Elliott waves are the stock market's "critical structure"

In the 1930s, Ralph Nelson Elliott observed the Wave Principle in the stock market. Yet his work gained little notice from Wall Street.

In the decades that followed, a handful of analysts and forecasters kept Elliott's work from falling into obscurity.

But in recent decades, scientists re-discovered Elliott.

Consider this 1996 quotation from "Stock Market Crashes, Precursors and Replicas" in France's Journal of Physics:

We speculate that the 'Elliott waves' . . . could be a signature of an underlying critical structure of the stock market.

Robert Prechter put it this way:

Scientific discoveries have established that pattern formation is a fundamental characteristic of complex systems, which include financial markets. Some such systems undergo “punctuated growth,” [or] building fractally into similar patterns of increasing size. This is precisely the type of pattern identified in market movements by R.N. Elliott.

Nature is full of fractals.

Consider branching fractals such as blood vessels or trees: A small tree branch looks like an approximate replica of a big branch, and the big branch looks similar in form to the entire tree.

Now consider that most of nature's fractals are governed by the Fibonacci sequence. It begins with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the previous two: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 and so on. The Fibonacci sequence also governs the number of waves that form in the movement of aggregate stock prices.

Take a look at this figure from the Wall Street classic book, Elliott Wave Principle:



The book notes:

The essential structure of the market generates the complete Fibonacci sequence. The simplest expression of a correction is a straight-line decline. The simplest expression of an impulse is a straight-line advance. A complete cycle is two lines. In the next degree of complexity, the corresponding numbers are 3, 5 and 8. This sequence can be taken to infinity.

Right now, the math of the market reveals a big clue about the trend of stocks.

Aren't these graphs/patterns generated after the fact? How does one catch the bottom



That's it! The technic being used here is both short and long wave count... Obviously long complete wave count will land you on the bottom or peak..


Post 1 here was generated before this fact back in 2014.The forecast was clear that the index would go at least below 2500 level. By then the index was at 5400s.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
Angelica _ann
#2487 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 7:47:31 PM
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Saw Sanlum in the teens today Sad Sad Sad
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lochaz-index
#2488 Posted : Monday, January 30, 2017 8:23:43 PM
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hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
NSE20 started the week above 2900 and at the rate of losses this week it likely to finish sub 2800 handle tomorrow. Closed at 2824 for the day - losing streaking continues at 11.36% in the red YTD.

The trading pit this week would feel like this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyeg6aANcc

NSE20 closes the day at 2,789.64. The index can't catch a bid since the year started as the waterfall selloff continues! Losses to date 12.46%. Berserk January as despondency phase continues to clobber the market while the tape reels downhill faster.

Continous skidding. Assuming the current sell-off is forward looking what is the market trying to price in here? At 2750 the index will have shed exactly 50%. GFC clobbered the market by about 62% from 6161 to 2360. The current slide is inching ever closer to those levels. Meanwhile, KES continues its journey south...investors will need nerves of steel to survive this one.
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ARAP CHARLES
#2489 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:32:03 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
NSE20 started the week above 2900 and at the rate of losses this week it likely to finish sub 2800 handle tomorrow. Closed at 2824 for the day - losing streaking continues at 11.36% in the red YTD.

The trading pit this week would feel like this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyeg6aANcc

NSE20 closes the day at 2,789.64. The index can't catch a bid since the year started as the waterfall selloff continues! Losses to date 12.46%. Berserk January as despondency phase continues to clobber the market while the tape reels downhill faster.

Continous skidding. Assuming the current sell-off is forward looking what is the market trying to price in here? At 2750 the index will have shed exactly 50%. GFC clobbered the market by about 62% from 6161 to 2360. The current slide is inching ever closer to those levels. Meanwhile, KES continues its journey south...investors will need nerves of steel to survive this one.


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#2490 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:43:16 AM
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mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mnandii wrote:
How Fibonacci Ratios Govern the Stock Market

Scientists speculate that Elliott waves are the stock market's "critical structure"

In the 1930s, Ralph Nelson Elliott observed the Wave Principle in the stock market. Yet his work gained little notice from Wall Street.

In the decades that followed, a handful of analysts and forecasters kept Elliott's work from falling into obscurity.

But in recent decades, scientists re-discovered Elliott.

Consider this 1996 quotation from "Stock Market Crashes, Precursors and Replicas" in France's Journal of Physics:

We speculate that the 'Elliott waves' . . . could be a signature of an underlying critical structure of the stock market.

Robert Prechter put it this way:

Scientific discoveries have established that pattern formation is a fundamental characteristic of complex systems, which include financial markets. Some such systems undergo “punctuated growth,” [or] building fractally into similar patterns of increasing size. This is precisely the type of pattern identified in market movements by R.N. Elliott.

Nature is full of fractals.

Consider branching fractals such as blood vessels or trees: A small tree branch looks like an approximate replica of a big branch, and the big branch looks similar in form to the entire tree.

Now consider that most of nature's fractals are governed by the Fibonacci sequence. It begins with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the previous two: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 and so on. The Fibonacci sequence also governs the number of waves that form in the movement of aggregate stock prices.

Take a look at this figure from the Wall Street classic book, Elliott Wave Principle:



The book notes:

The essential structure of the market generates the complete Fibonacci sequence. The simplest expression of a correction is a straight-line decline. The simplest expression of an impulse is a straight-line advance. A complete cycle is two lines. In the next degree of complexity, the corresponding numbers are 3, 5 and 8. This sequence can be taken to infinity.

Right now, the math of the market reveals a big clue about the trend of stocks.

Aren't these graphs/patterns generated after the fact? How does one catch the bottom



That's it! The technic being used here is both short and long wave count... Obviously long complete wave count will land you on the bottom or peak..


Post 1 here was generated before this fact back in 2014.The forecast was clear that the index would go at least below 2500 level. By then the index was at 5400s.

True, you called it, it's the the time-frame that's an issue for me i.e. one would have missed out on out-sized gains in "GOOD" counters. As a fundamentalist, I look at potential performance of the firms. I remain confident about my picks [please graph them for me since March 2016]

KK, KenRe, Unga and I&M
[BTW, the price of I&M has collapsed just like other banks but I wish I had sold out as soon as the "Interest Cap Bill" was passed. KenRe is a poor stockmarket performer but I like profitable (under-valued) firms]

Keep sharing!
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VituVingiSana
#2491 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:45:12 AM
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So @mnandii - Where to now? Do we buy? Wait? Sell?
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VituVingiSana
#2492 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:46:48 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Good analysis. I expect a move lower but not to the lows of 2576.
And (almost) 3 years later... here we are! Respect to @mmnadii
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whiteowl
#2493 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:08:39 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Saw Sanlum in the teens today Sad Sad Sad


I remember cashing out at 120 and I wasnt even sure it was the right call.How things can change in 3 years
littledove
#2494 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:22:19 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Saw Sanlum in the teens today Sad Sad Sad


I remember cashing out at 120 and I wasnt even sure it was the right call.How things can change in 3 years

managed to get some at 18 yesterday,this can rally to 30-40 within a very short time
when the bull makes a come back,
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#2495 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:22:09 PM
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At the NSE today we are experiencing a deadlock between buyers and sellers so this looks like a good point to thrown in some trades.
sparkly
#2496 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:50:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Good analysis. I expect a move lower but not to the lows of 2576.
And (almost) 3 years later... here we are! Respect to @mmnadii


Who would have guessed? Respect to the oracle.
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hisah
#2497 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:39:42 PM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Good analysis. I expect a move lower but not to the lows of 2576.
And (almost) 3 years later... here we are! Respect to @mmnadii


Who would have guessed? Respect to the oracle.

Even after showing guys several times the power of TA, in wazua-land TA fans and their graphs are called cartoonists Sad

TA fans please continue to soldier on smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2498 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:42:50 PM
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wukan wrote:
At the NSE today we are experiencing a deadlock between buyers and sellers so this looks like a good point to thrown in some trades.

Getting ready to bounce. Selling fatigue is kicking in after a swift 12.3% nosedive of NSE20 in January. Sell side action the entire month!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#2499 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:45:30 PM
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hisah wrote:
wukan wrote:
At the NSE today we are experiencing a deadlock between buyers and sellers so this looks like a good point to thrown in some trades.

Getting ready to bounce. Selling fatigue is kicking in after a swift 12.3% nosedive of NSE20 in January. Sell side action the entire month!

iam hardened and don't want to see any bull until 2018
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obiero
#2500 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:50:40 PM
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hisah wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Good analysis. I expect a move lower but not to the lows of 2576.
And (almost) 3 years later... here we are! Respect to @mmnadii


Who would have guessed? Respect to the oracle.

Even after showing guys several times the power of TA, in wazua-land TA fans and their graphs are called cartoonists Sad

TA fans please continue to soldier on smile

Bolingo boys band.. The imperfect NSE market where auditors hide negative financial data and board decisions are leaked to the media before decisions are ratified makes it impossible to trade on TA alone in Kenya. Otherwise your TA analysed stock may just be suspended as soon as you buy some stock with life savings

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