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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Meanwhile the city fathers have allowed nairobians to harvest rain water even though its illegal as per the law. I never knew it was illegal to collect rainwater. The reasoning behind it was , the water collected was breeding mosquitos. Nairobi Central Business District Association (NCBDA) has been lobbying Kanju to change that bylaw since 2009 but nothing. There's nothing like allowing people to break the law, they just need to get rid of the law of modify it to fit the times. They said the reason for ban was coz of asbestos roofing coz asbestos is toxic. That the law was enacted when asbestos was roofing of choice. Question is are current roofing materials safe?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Meanwhile the city fathers have allowed nairobians to harvest rain water even though its illegal as per the law. I never knew it was illegal to collect rainwater. The reasoning behind it was , the water collected was breeding mosquitos. Nairobi Central Business District Association (NCBDA) has been lobbying Kanju to change that bylaw since 2009 but nothing. There's nothing like allowing people to break the law, they just need to get rid of the law of modify it to fit the times. They said the reason for ban was coz of asbestos roofing coz asbestos is toxic. That the law was enacted when asbestos was roofing of choice. Question is are current roofing materials safe? Not all. And I think we still have asbestos roofing around. Those old city council houses and some govt quarters are still roofed using asbestos "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 465 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
Nolturesh water is pumped some 300Km from Loitoktok and supplies EPZ Athi-River. Why can't GoK have a water treatment after last 7 folks dam (Kiambere?) and have a water pipeline to Nairobi? We are still relying on infrastructure mzungu left us, Ndakaini. How comes no one is checking on Sasumua dam the other source for Nairobi Water? If Ndakaini won't fill up i am sure Nairobi boreholes are filling up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Hehe. Have just seen that "serikali saidia" woman on TV appealing to ohuru for help. I thought she earned some good cash from safaricom adverts, and was even made an ambassador of some course? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
Nolturesh water is pumped some 300Km from Loitoktok and supplies EPZ Athi-River. Why can't GoK have a water treatment after last 7 folks dam (Kiambere?) and have a water pipeline to Nairobi? We are still relying on infrastructure mzungu left us, Ndakaini. How comes no one is checking on Sasumua dam the other source for Nairobi Water? If Ndakaini won't fill up i am sure Nairobi boreholes are filling up. Nolturesh water never dries up and the infrastructure is still the same, infact with more capacity it can supply a whole larger area. Just read that Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru, Kandaruma and Kiambere are not filled up yet. Nairobi should have its own dam. Somewhere b4 ruai drain all water frm the city then clean it for consumption. The water from the dams can be used in the towns that these dams are located. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Meanwhile the city fathers have allowed nairobians to harvest rain water even though its illegal as per the law. I never knew it was illegal to collect rainwater. The reasoning behind it was , the water collected was breeding mosquitos. Nairobi Central Business District Association (NCBDA) has been lobbying Kanju to change that bylaw since 2009 but nothing. There's nothing like allowing people to break the law, they just need to get rid of the law of modify it to fit the times. They said the reason for ban was coz of asbestos roofing coz asbestos is toxic. That the law was enacted when asbestos was roofing of choice. Question is are current roofing materials safe? Not all. And I think we still have asbestos roofing around. Those old city council houses and some govt quarters are still roofed using asbestos All district(now county) hospitals and all govt. dispensaries are roofed using asbestos. Goes to show how incompetent government employees including successive cabinets/governors/presidents are... Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Fyatu wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Meanwhile the city fathers have allowed nairobians to harvest rain water even though its illegal as per the law. I never knew it was illegal to collect rainwater. The reasoning behind it was , the water collected was breeding mosquitos. Nairobi Central Business District Association (NCBDA) has been lobbying Kanju to change that bylaw since 2009 but nothing. There's nothing like allowing people to break the law, they just need to get rid of the law of modify it to fit the times. They said the reason for ban was coz of asbestos roofing coz asbestos is toxic. That the law was enacted when asbestos was roofing of choice. Question is are current roofing materials safe? Not all. And I think we still have asbestos roofing around. Those old city council houses and some govt quarters are still roofed using asbestos All district(now county) hospitals and all govt. dispensaries are roofed using asbestos. Goes to show how incompetent government employees including successive cabinets/governors/presidents are... I have noticed even schools, primary and secondary have asbestos roofs. I hope students don't collect rainwater from such roofs.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,569
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kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
Nolturesh water is pumped some 300Km from Loitoktok and supplies EPZ Athi-River. Why can't GoK have a water treatment after last 7 folks dam (Kiambere?) and have a water pipeline to Nairobi? We are still relying on infrastructure mzungu left us, Ndakaini. How comes no one is checking on Sasumua dam the other source for Nairobi Water? If Ndakaini won't fill up i am sure Nairobi boreholes are filling up. Ndakaini is a Moi era infrastructure project not a mzungu leftover. As explained to me by a water engineer, Ndakaini is what is called a highland dam-it's supposed to get water through out the year from the rivers near the source to avoid pollution. It's not a dam that taps flood waters into a reservoir. The Ndakaini catchment area is like the sponge it gets destroyed then the sponge effect is not there. I don't think I would want to live in city supplied with water from downstream like Ruai-too much heavy metals pollution.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 465 Location: Nairobi
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wukan wrote:kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
Nolturesh water is pumped some 300Km from Loitoktok and supplies EPZ Athi-River. Why can't GoK have a water treatment after last 7 folks dam (Kiambere?) and have a water pipeline to Nairobi? We are still relying on infrastructure mzungu left us, Ndakaini. How comes no one is checking on Sasumua dam the other source for Nairobi Water? If Ndakaini won't fill up i am sure Nairobi boreholes are filling up. Ndakaini is a Moi era infrastructure project not a mzungu leftover. As explained to me by a water engineer, Ndakaini is what is called a highland dam-it's supposed to get water through out the year from the rivers near the source to avoid pollution. It's not a dam that taps flood waters into a reservoir. The Ndakaini catchment area is like the sponge it gets destroyed then the sponge effect is not there. I don't think I would want to live in city supplied with water from downstream like Ruai-too much heavy metals pollution. Yes, hence reason i mentioned alternate supply for Nairobi water downstream Kiambere dam (Tana River not polluted by Nairobi sewage/factories effluent). A lot of Nairobi vegetables grown on banks of polluted Athi River so next time you bite into that juicy water melon think about it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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kawi254 wrote:wukan wrote:kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani that's the river feeding ndakaini? Theres no hope kupata maji.
Nolturesh water is pumped some 300Km from Loitoktok and supplies EPZ Athi-River. Why can't GoK have a water treatment after last 7 folks dam (Kiambere?) and have a water pipeline to Nairobi? We are still relying on infrastructure mzungu left us, Ndakaini. How comes no one is checking on Sasumua dam the other source for Nairobi Water? If Ndakaini won't fill up i am sure Nairobi boreholes are filling up. Ndakaini is a Moi era infrastructure project not a mzungu leftover. As explained to me by a water engineer, Ndakaini is what is called a highland dam-it's supposed to get water through out the year from the rivers near the source to avoid pollution. It's not a dam that taps flood waters into a reservoir. The Ndakaini catchment area is like the sponge it gets destroyed then the sponge effect is not there. I don't think I would want to live in city supplied with water from downstream like Ruai-too much heavy metals pollution. Yes, hence reason i mentioned alternate supply for Nairobi water downstream Kiambere dam (Tana River not polluted by Nairobi sewage/factories effluent). A lot of Nairobi vegetables grown on banks of polluted Athi River so next time you bite into that juicy water melon think about it. Sasa tutajuaje hii chakula inatoka wapi na huwa tunaipata tu kwa meza.. Its chilling though, the thought that we could be consuming hazardous chemicals, metals and other trash
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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You are already consuming that heavy metal. The only solution is to embrace science "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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If you have plans to be at the coast there is your warning. Its raining bad in Tanzania as they are right at the intertropical convergence zone, but the met department there is doing very well in informing the public. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The river never forgets it's route. They grabbed riparian reserves and built ukay and westgate. Infact the parking of those 2 malls is right above the river. Choices have consequences. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:The river never forgets it's route. They grabbed riparian reserves and built ukay and westgate. Infact the parking of those 2 malls is right above the river. Choices have consequences. Shida tupu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:The river never forgets it's route. They grabbed riparian reserves and built ukay and westgate. Infact the parking of those 2 malls is right above the river. Choices have consequences. Sure.... they will come and go! until next time! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Seems like we are going to be dry in a few days. For those who will continue till June...goodluck, but for Nairobians its time to take stock and prepare for November. ***** Possible Elnino weather by end of Aug according to NOAA (53% chance)***** "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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murchr wrote:Seems like we are going to be dry in a few days. For those who will continue till June...goodluck, but for Nairobians its time to take stock and prepare for November. *****Possible Elnino weather by end of Aug according to NOAA (53% chance)*****
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 465 Location: Nairobi
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National Tree Planting day is on Sat 12th May 2018 a full 2 months after continuous rains. If the rains cease this May as per @KenyaMetService prediction these trees will dry up. Better planning could have had the tree planting at the beginning of rains.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Hehe. Have just seen that "serikali saidia" woman on TV appealing to ohuru for help. I thought she earned some good cash from safaricom adverts, and was even made an ambassador of some course? I think it was stage-managed If I'm right, then this is shameful of Citizen TV!
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