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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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This is the real famine.
Those who know what had gone on during Kenyans4Kenya know it was a corporates show off affair.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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We can't feed ourselves but we call ourselves grownups while demanding respect from others work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Tokyo wrote:We can't feed ourselves but we call ourselves grownups while demanding respect from others Break it down bro...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! 1. What is the population? 2. What size of the total area is inhabited?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! 1. What is the population? 2. What size of the total area is inhabited? ...That was to supplement government's efforts, do an intense advocacy and ensure that stuff is happening. Those companies prospecting for oil there should feed those people nna wajilipe baadaye!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Magigi wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! 1. What is the population? 2. What size of the total area is inhabited? ...That was to supplement government's efforts, do an intense advocacy and ensure that stuff is happening. Those companies prospecting for oil there should feed those people nna wajilipe baadaye! not 'feed' but rather ensure that they are able to feed themselves @pound - google is your friend All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Na hii maji si itiririke haraka jamaneni... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? Maybe Red Cross used the money to buy ambulances which are being leased to county governments for 600k per month. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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How have the Turkana people survived for hundreds of years in their environment, and how come they are no longer able to survive in the recent past due to the frequent devastating famines? Surely no one was giving them relief food in 1700AD.
Maybe reconstructing their lifestyle and how they coped in their environment in the ancient times could be the key to solving the hunger problem now and in the future.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:How have the Turkana people survived for hundreds of years in their environment, and how come they are no longer able to survive in the recent past due to the frequent devastating famines? Surely no one was giving them relief food in 1700AD.
Maybe reconstructing their lifestyle and how they coped in their environment in the ancient times could be the key to solving the hunger problem now and in the future. brilliant!! this is exactly what I wrote when last time we had 'famine' over there. The turkana are over 1 million people - wameishi aje all this time? ever since they moved into the lake turkana basin? have our 'good' intentions made them weaker? are they now reliant on us? are we naive to think that we can sell the idea that one can throw in some seeds into the ground, water them continuously then wait for 6-9 months to get food to a community that gets food instantaneously? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! It was for a long term solution.300M for a population of 1m can greatly reduce famine If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! It was for a long term solution.300M for a population of 1m can greatly reduce famine hahaha.... 1 million people? based on you maths we only require 12 billion to eradicate poverty in kenya. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! 1. What is the population? 2. What size of the total area is inhabited? ...That was to supplement government's efforts, do an intense advocacy and ensure that stuff is happening. Those companies prospecting for oil there should feed those people nna wajilipe baadaye! not 'feed' but rather ensure that they are able to feed themselves @pound - google is your friend Mine was in response to your comparison. 300M with a bit of GoK is enough to avoid such scenes. Weren't we shown some pics last year of bumper harvests?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:Swenani wrote:masukuma wrote:Magigi wrote:We had a major funds drive, led by many major corporations in Kenya, where real money was raised. The aim of the fundraising was to fix the problem then, once and for all, one by immediately attending to the immediate hunger needs of the population. Two, coming up with sustaining strategies of keeping hunger at bay and implementing those strategies. Now what is this I am seeing on TV? What did Kenya Red Cross do with all that money? you thought that the 300 million that the red cross pledged to use will sort out famine in turkana? turkana is twice the size of nairobi, nyanza, central and western combined! It was for a long term solution.300M for a population of 1m can greatly reduce famine hahaha.... 1 million people? based on you maths we only require 12 billion to eradicate poverty in kenya. Greatly reduce is not same as eradicate If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Fish is a taboo in Turkana culture and therefore they do not benefit from the fish in the giant lake Turkana. Fishing as an economic activity is also frowned upon. If only they ate fish, this could greatly reduce famine. The Turkana rely on their animals (cattle, goats, camels) for milk, meat and blood. So when there is no grass to support the animals due to drought, the results can be devastating. Fish can take them through the tough times. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15395063
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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jaggernaut wrote:How have the Turkana people survived for hundreds of years in their environment, and how come they are no longer able to survive in the recent past due to the frequent devastating famines? Surely no one was giving them relief food in 1700AD.
Maybe reconstructing their lifestyle and how they coped in their environment in the ancient times could be the key to solving the hunger problem now and in the future. It is not only in Turkana that is facing drought and hunger due to the failed rains (last long and short rains), many areas of Kenya are having low food supplies but it will get severe in the driest areas of North Rift, Eastern, North Eastern and Coast. For instance, i was able to produce maize for my immediate family from the short rains of 2012. Since then, the long rains in 2013 were intense and ruined crops while the short rains terminated before the crop could mature, and I'm in the lower Murang'a area. So figure The thing is, nobody should die because we can share the little we have, so help the Turkana and others
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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jaggernaut wrote:Fish is a taboo in Turkana culture and therefore they do not benefit from the fish in the giant lake Turkana. Fishing as an economic activity is also frowned upon. If only they ate fish, this could greatly reduce famine. The Turkana rely on their animals (cattle, goats, camels) for milk, meat and blood. So when there is no grass to support the animals due to drought, the results can be devastating. Fish can take them through the tough times. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15395063 This is so bad. So it means even if irrigation water is connected they might not do crop farming?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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And what has the county government there done this far?
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