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NSSF Bill
Ole Lenku
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:56:42 AM
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I want to thank the PORK for signing that bill. Workers should not complain about paying 6% of their gross salary to NSSF. Your advisers must be proud of themselves. If we continue at this pace, Kenya will trult be a great country. Long live PORK.
seppuku
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:10:35 AM
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I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:14:31 AM
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Ole Lenku wrote:
I want to thank the PORK for signing that bill. Workers should not complain about paying 6% of their gross salary to NSSF. Your advisers must be proud of themselves. If we continue at this pace, Kenya will trult be a great country. Long live PORK.


has it been signed? I thought it was still in parliament.
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Impunity
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:20:44 AM
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seppuku wrote:
I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.


Exactly, some of us with the middle class salary are already contributing up to 15% of our salos to a reputable pension schemes.
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radio
#5 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:33:39 AM
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Impunity wrote:
seppuku wrote:
I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.


Exactly, some of us with the middle class salary are already contributing up to 15% of our salos to a reputable pension schemes.


With the inefficiencies and corruption at NSSF, I would rather stick with the alternative pension scheme.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#6 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:42:45 AM
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seppuku wrote:
I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.


The bill must allow employees/employers the option to choose between NSSF and private pension schemes, otherwise it will kill the thriving pensions industry and replace it with campaign funding kitty for politicians.

I can assure you no employer will operate 2 schemes and cough up extra cash to employees if he doesn't have to, they will simply abandon the private schemes and throw employees under the bus that is NSSF.

The president should send the bill back to parliament if that proviso is not included very clearly.
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Impunity
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:46:36 AM
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radio wrote:
Impunity wrote:
seppuku wrote:
I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.


Exactly, some of us with the middle class salary are already contributing up to 15% of our salos to a reputable pension schemes.


With the inefficiencies and corruption at NSSF, I would rather stick with the alternative pension scheme.


What will you do when its made a law?
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McReggae
#8 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:52:46 AM
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They waste our money and are now rewarded with more money....where will I run to? Can't wait for 2016 when I plan to officially retire!!!!
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#9 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:53:43 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
seppuku wrote:
I see no problem with 6%, but it should be optional if you can show evidence of belonging to an alternative scheme.


The bill must allow employees/employers the option to choose between NSSF and private pension schemes, otherwise it will kill the thriving pensions industry and replace it with campaign funding kitty for politicians.

I can assure you no employer will operate 2 schemes and cough up extra cash to employees if he doesn't have to, they will simply abandon the private schemes and throw employees under the bus that is NSSF.

The president should send the bill back to parliament if that proviso is not included very clearly.

Agreed - the contribution must be for those with no private pension scheme.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:22:37 AM
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The problem has never been the concept, it's the transparency in management and investment strategy for the fund to increase the interest earned for the retiree to get a better cheque than he would from the private pension funds. Don't forget that this fund will increase three-fold when we start contributing.

BBI will solve it
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