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What Ails Africa
kysse
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:39:20 PM
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List in your preferred order from below, beginning with the worst to the least.
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1.Tribes
2.Western influence
3.Corruption/Greed
4.Funded Militias
5.Attitude/Mentality
6.Religion
7.Governance
8.Jealousy and hatred among African countries.
9.Politics
10.Culture/Traditions



masukuma
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:32:55 PM
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kysse wrote:
List in your preferred order from below, beginning with the worst to the least.
You may add to the list.

1.Tribes
2.Western influence
3.Corruption/Greed
4.Funded Militias
5.Attitude/Mentality
6.Religion
7.Governance
8.Jealousy and hatred among African countries.
9.Politics
10.Culture/Traditions




fake borders? coming to the realization that the rest of the world was so far ahead when you realized that there was 'the rest of the world'?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
maka
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:41:14 PM
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kysse wrote:
List in your preferred order from below, beginning with the worst to the least.
You may add to the list.

1.Tribes
2.Western influence
3.Corruption/Greed
4.Funded Militias
5.Attitude/Mentality
6.Religion
7.Governance
8.Jealousy and hatred among African countries.
9.Politics
10.Culture/Traditions




All of them have the same weighting...
possunt quia posse videntur
McReggae
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:47:13 PM
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Trying to make the human thinking as simple as possible....ni kama ile course @Mkwasi alinipea!!!!!
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:04:28 AM
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What Ails Africa?

Trying to be what we're not. Its true we all belong to a tribe(s), that cant disappear and neither is it primitive so we have to accept it and live with it. No one can sort our problems apart from us, the looking to the west everytime we need or want to emulate something makes us their slaves.
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kysse
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:25:19 AM
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11. Effects of Colonisation.
Tokyo
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:59:38 AM
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1. "Educated" folks
work to prosper
poundfoolish
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:24:20 AM
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I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me
dunkang
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:47:45 AM
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Jealousy and hatred amongst 'ourselves'.

La jalousie et la haine 'entre nous'.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

tycho
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:58:25 AM
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kysse wrote:
List in your preferred order from below, beginning with the worst to the least.
You may add to the list.

1.Tribes
2.Western influence
3.Corruption/Greed
4.Funded Militias
5.Attitude/Mentality
6.Religion
7.Governance
8.Jealousy and hatred among African countries.
9.Politics
10.Culture/Traditions





'Wrong' thinking and inadequate symbols. The list above is of symptoms. It's a symptom on it's own. Our Psyche is full of 'demons'.
maka
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:40 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...
possunt quia posse videntur
kripp
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:09:01 AM
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maka wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...



and I would add MEDIOCRITY
Wendz
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:31:56 AM
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kripp wrote:
maka wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...



and I would add MEDIOCRITY


I don't think we are entirely stupid but i think it is more of Laziness and Mediocrity.

I was talking to some guy jana. Kenyan but lives in US. He told me of a mzungu he met there who had been to Uganda over 20 years ago. In the village he visited, he found the villagers used two logs to cross the river to the other side. children kept falling off the "bridge" and many would drown. When he revisited the village a few years ago, he found the villagers were still using the same logs and kids were still drowning. He mobilised them and they built a bridge with available local materials and made them changa the money to get the nails and the like. Later, they organised some "thanksgiving ceremony" for the mzungu.

When he gave his speech, he told them he was disappointing that they had to wait for 20 years for a mzungu to come build for them a bridge but he is very happy with them for organising such a celebration to celebrate their stupidity..... (needless to say, the celebrations had cost more than the bridge cost to build).

well, yes, i bet we can be stupid too!
Rajolghani
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:53:25 AM
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Genetics
If there is a God, then the history of Africa is the story of God's most cruel joke on mankind.
masukuma
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:56:09 AM
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Wendz wrote:
kripp wrote:
maka wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...



and I would add MEDIOCRITY


I don't think we are entirely stupid but i think it is more of Laziness and Mediocrity.

I was talking to some guy jana. Kenyan but lives in US. He told me of a mzungu he met there who had been to Uganda over 20 years ago. In the village he visited, he found the villagers used two logs to cross the river to the other side. children kept falling off the "bridge" and many would drown. When he revisited the village a few years ago, he found the villagers were still using the same logs and kids were still drowning. He mobilised them and they built a bridge with available local materials and made them changa the money to get the nails and the like. Later, they organised some "thanksgiving ceremony" for the mzungu.

When he gave his speech, he told them he was disappointing that they had to wait for 20 years for a mzungu to come build for them a bridge but he is very happy with them for organising such a celebration to celebrate their stupidity..... (needless to say, the celebrations had cost more than the bridge cost to build).

well, yes, i bet we can be stupid too!

it all boils down to culture!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:59:59 AM
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Rajolghani wrote:
Genetics

I disagree.... there is nothing genetically wrong or different with us. I know what you think... but its not the cranium sizes is all just a retrogressive (old world) culture. in a couple of years we will catch up!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kingfisher
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:04:44 AM
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kysse wrote:
List in your preferred order from below, beginning with the worst to the least.
You may add to the list.

1.Tribes
2.Western influence
3.Corruption/Greed
4.Funded Militias
5.Attitude/Mentality
6.Religion
7.Governance
8.Jealousy and hatred among African countries.
9.Politics
10.Culture/Traditions



Toa number 1 from that list... number 1 is a natural fact... you cant deny it neither can you change it... so its not a problem at all.... it part of us!!!

the others may be... but our biggest problem is our ATTITUDE.
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symbols
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:04:51 AM
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1.Attitude/Mentality - Learned helplessness.
2.Culture - We're reactive.We spend time complaining and assigning blame thenSilenced
3.Corruption/Greed - Not my problem until it is.
mkeiyd
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:35:03 AM
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Wendz wrote:
kripp wrote:
maka wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...



and I would add MEDIOCRITY


I don't think we are entirely stupid but i think it is more of Laziness and Mediocrity.

I was talking to some guy jana. Kenyan but lives in US. He told me of a mzungu he met there who had been to Uganda over 20 years ago. In the village he visited, he found the villagers used two logs to cross the river to the other side. children kept falling off the "bridge" and many would drown. When he revisited the village a few years ago, he found the villagers were still using the same logs and kids were still drowning. He mobilised them and they built a bridge with available local materials and made them changa the money to get the nails and the like. Later, they organised some "thanksgiving ceremony" for the mzungu.

When he gave his speech, he told them he was disappointing that they had to wait for 20 years for a mzungu to come build for them a bridge but he is very happy with them for organising such a celebration to celebrate their stupidity..... (needless to say, the celebrations had cost more than the bridge cost to build).

well, yes, i bet we can be stupid too!


Those two words mess us big time. UJINGA na UZEMBE.
tycho
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:49:48 AM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Wendz wrote:
kripp wrote:
maka wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
I can sum it all down to laziness and stupidity.. Full stop for me

well put...



and I would add MEDIOCRITY


I don't think we are entirely stupid but i think it is more of Laziness and Mediocrity.

I was talking to some guy jana. Kenyan but lives in US. He told me of a mzungu he met there who had been to Uganda over 20 years ago. In the village he visited, he found the villagers used two logs to cross the river to the other side. children kept falling off the "bridge" and many would drown. When he revisited the village a few years ago, he found the villagers were still using the same logs and kids were still drowning. He mobilised them and they built a bridge with available local materials and made them changa the money to get the nails and the like. Later, they organised some "thanksgiving ceremony" for the mzungu.

When he gave his speech, he told them he was disappointing that they had to wait for 20 years for a mzungu to come build for them a bridge but he is very happy with them for organising such a celebration to celebrate their stupidity..... (needless to say, the celebrations had cost more than the bridge cost to build).

well, yes, i bet we can be stupid too!


Those two words mess us big time. UJINGA na UZEMBE.


I notice that 'ujinga na uzembe' are defeatist, and pro slavery. In fact, by saying this we are just behaving like the villagers who couldn't build a bridge.
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