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Traffic Management set to go digital
mnjoro
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:56:24 PM
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Good idea but at night no way.Imagine waiting for hooligans to come pluck your mirrors.Worse still hijack you at gunpoint or a drunken driver plugging your vehicle from behind.
Muheani
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 1:31:20 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Just watch Road Hog on Citizen and you will realize how rotten our traffic manners are. All the big offenders read like " Office of the President, Judiciary, Dept of Administration of Justice, Hon XYZ etc etc". A county that does not operate under its own rules is just a jungle.

All we need to follow the traffic rules.


I was dismayed to see a GK Discovery, trying to use the wrong lane..right in the middle of town; Kenyatta Avenue hapo emperor plaza. The disgusting fellow (i dont blame the cop dere but his cargo, whoever he was) wanted to go up towards uhuru highway..

The cop saluted before asking him to pls join the queue .....

and in the brief 7 minutes it happened, traffic backed up to the roundaboutShame on you Shame on you Shame on you
Speculz
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:00:27 PM
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Lights will not change our driving culture sadly, let the fines be hefty , and this business of being dragged to court should be avoided, let the fines be slapped onto your insurance premium ( which most of us have to pay each year) they should also introduce a portal where you can check your accumulated fines and you can pay at your own convenience . Points on DL's should also be introduced.

Also people who hoot the second the light turn green should be fined too.
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webish
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:19:50 PM
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Speculz wrote:
Lights will not change our driving culture sadly, let the fines be hefty , and this business of being dragged to court should be avoided, let the fines be slapped onto your insurance premium ( which most of us have to pay each year) they should also introduce a portal where you can check your accumulated fines and you can pay at your own convenience . Points on DL's should also be introduced.

Also people who hoot the second the light turn green should be fined too.


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sky5
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:25:09 PM
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Speculz wrote:
Lights will not change our driving culture sadly,..


Couldn't agree more. It's not about lights. Drivers keep jumping lights and more lights won't stop them.

Lights + Cameras + heavy fines should work.
Blackbelt
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:31:43 PM
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The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???
Impunity
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:56:29 PM
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Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Wekeni piksha ili watu wa machinani wayaone haya lights.
d'oh!
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McReggae
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:56:43 PM
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Kenyatta Avenue: Johnny Walker & Bill Machozi stuck in traffic....panic galore!!
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ZZE123
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:03:54 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Kenyatta Avenue: Johnny Walker & Bill Machozi stuck in traffic....panic galore!!

Kwani they don't have outriders to clear the traffic for them??d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! But its good for them to taste what Nairobians experience every day.
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maka
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:11:48 PM
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Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Will they work though...thats the question...
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King G
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:17:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Will they work though...thats the question...


Somebody needs to be fired... how can that happen.
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Impunity
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:04:08 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Wekeni piksha ili watu wa machinani wayaone haya lights.
d'oh!


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story teller
#33 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:09:34 AM
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webish wrote:
Speculz wrote:
Lights will not change our driving culture sadly, let the fines be hefty , and this business of being dragged to court should be avoided, let the fines be slapped onto your insurance premium ( which most of us have to pay each year) they should also introduce a portal where you can check your accumulated fines and you can pay at your own convenience . Points on DL's should also be introduced.

Also people who hoot the second the light turn green should be fined too.


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Totally agree..it works very well in other countries..
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harrydre
#34 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:37:46 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kenyatta Avenue: Johnny Walker & Bill Machozi stuck in traffic....panic galore!!

Kwani they don't have outriders to clear the traffic for them??d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! But its good for them to taste what Nairobians experience every day.


Everyone should follow the law including those who acquire unlicensed sirens.
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murchr
#35 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:55:05 AM
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maka wrote:
Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Will they work though...thats the question...


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danas10
#36 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:42:49 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


Wekeni piksha ili watu wa machinani wayaone haya lights.
d'oh!




so that number 23 is for what? d'oh! d'oh!
mukiha
#37 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:43:48 AM
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I am always amazed at the damage that Daniel arap Moi did to this country....

In 1983, I was booked by a cop at the Uhuru/Haile Selassie roundabout for the offence of "attempting to jump a red traffic light". Yes, 30 years ago!

This was the usual booking of you stopped at the lights with the front wheels of your touching or going past the broad white line adjacent to the traffic light pole. Today I see cops encouraging drivers to jump the lights and wonder when the rain started beating us down!

And yes; in the 1980s, all the traffic lights in the city - uhuru highway, Kenyatta avenue, Moi avenue (then known as Government road) and Lusaka road were controlled centrally from a control room at City Hall.

In those very analogue days - there were only 2 computers in Kenya!!!!! - they had dozens of control cables running from City Hall to the traffic lights. The city also had traffic scouts with walkie-talkies observing critical junctions and updating the controllers at City Hall.

Now that's how advanced we were... until Moi came and messed everything up!
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murchr
#38 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:46:32 AM
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mukiha wrote:
I am always amazed at the damage that Daniel arap Moi did to this country....

In 1983, I was booked by a cop at the Uhuru/Haile Selassie roundabout for the offence of "attempting to jump a red traffic light". Yes, 30 years ago!

This was the usual booking of you stopped at the lights with the front wheels of your touching or going past the broad white line adjacent to the traffic light pole. Today I see cops encouraging drivers to jump the lights and wonder when the rain started beating us down!

And yes; in the 1980s, all the traffic lights in the city - uhuru highway, Kenyatta avenue, Moi avenue (then known as Government road) and Lusaka road were controlled centrally from a control room at City Hall.

In those very analogue days - there were only 2 computers in Kenya!!!!! - they had dozens of control cables running from City Hall to the traffic lights. The city also had traffic scouts with walkie-talkies observing critical junctions and updating the controllers at City Hall.

Now that's how advanced we were... until Moi came and messed everything up!


Moi was President in 83' so lets just say, untill the coup happened, the man changed.
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mkeiyd
#39 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:09:45 AM
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Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


I don't think the cops need to move away, what they should be provided with is a control both, to be adjusting the timings accordingly.
FundamentAli
#40 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:17:56 AM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Blackbelt wrote:
The 'Kidero lights' are impressive. Can the cops now move away from the road and let the lights function???


I don't think the cops need to move away, what they should be provided with is a control both, to be adjusting the timings accordingly.

There is going to be a central control room. Cops need to be there to nab drivers who jump the lights.
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