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Ericsson
#1501 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 10:13:34 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Unable to repay a Sh 77 Billion syndicated loan that was due in October this year, Kenya Govt has requested International creditors to extend repayment period by 6 months to April 2018.
*90% of the creditors are for the extension


The 10% of the creditors were paid.The remaining 90% will be paid in April at a higher interest rate.


So what is the amount paid?


When I get the figure will inform you
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tandich
#1502 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 12:26:04 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Unable to repay a Sh 77 Billion syndicated loan that was due in October this year, Kenya Govt has requested International creditors to extend repayment period by 6 months to April 2018.
*90% of the creditors are for the extension


The 10% of the creditors were paid.The remaining 90% will be paid in April at a higher interest rate.


So what is the amount paid?


When I get the figure will inform you


And if you can, what is the increase in interest?
Ericsson
#1503 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 1:29:08 PM
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In March, Kenya borrowed Sh82 billion ($800 million) in a syndicated loan from a consortium of four banks – Standard Chartered, Standard Bank, Citi and Rand Merchant Bank.
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Ericsson
#1504 Posted : Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:01:25 AM
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I see Treasury secretary Rotich visiting IMF very soon
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aemathenge
#1505 Posted : Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:52:20 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
I see Treasury secretary Rotich visiting IMF very soon

A Cabinet Secretary in Charge of the Treasury, yes but most likely not Rotich.

Apparently, Rotich is one of the Members of the Cabinet on his way out, according to the mucheneneko columns of the Star.
Swenani
#1506 Posted : Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:13:46 PM
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Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Angelica _ann
#1507 Posted : Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:17:30 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!
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obiero
#1508 Posted : Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:02:17 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

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mlennyma
#1509 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 7:50:08 AM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails
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Ericsson
#1510 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 9:13:30 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails


Add to ratings downgrade and interest rates rising in EU and America which makes it expensive for kenya to borrow internationally
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mamilli
#1511 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 10:20:28 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails


Add to ratings downgrade and interest rates rising in EU and America which makes it expensive for kenya to borrow internationally


If the downgrade happens with the invariable consequence of expensive foreign debt,then we can as well forget the repeal/amendment of the rate cap law in the medium term.
Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
Ericsson
#1512 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 10:30:03 AM
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mamilli wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails


Add to ratings downgrade and interest rates rising in EU and America which makes it expensive for kenya to borrow internationally


If the downgrade happens with the invariable consequence of expensive foreign debt,then we can as well forget the repeal/ammendment of the rate cap law in the medium term.


Repeal will be done asap because the next saviour will be IMF bailout who will give conditions and one of them will be repeal interest rates cap.
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wukan
#1513 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 10:54:47 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
mamilli wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails


Add to ratings downgrade and interest rates rising in EU and America which makes it expensive for kenya to borrow internationally


If the downgrade happens with the invariable consequence of expensive foreign debt,then we can as well forget the repeal/ammendment of the rate cap law in the medium term.


Repeal will be done asap because the next saviour will be IMF bailout who will give conditions and one of them will be repeal interest rates cap.


The structural damage is already done. Repealing the cap won't have much of an effect. Only a structural adjustment program will do

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Default in personal loan though jumped 42.4 per cent in 2016, compared to the previous year, as uptake of credit by individuals slowed – only growing 6.1 per cent – in the period....

“Contrary to common belief that low rates support NPL reduction, the correlation between lending rates and NPL ratio from FY03 – 2Q17, has been negative (-0.4),”

http://www.businessdaily...94288-6ucjohz/index.html
lochaz-index
#1514 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 12:38:06 PM
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wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mamilli wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Venezuela likely to go bankrupt tomorrow

With all the oil reserves they have, how now? That is serious mismanagement!!!

We are in a similar predicament.. The two men will finish us

and especially when the careless borrowing to service interest fails


Add to ratings downgrade and interest rates rising in EU and America which makes it expensive for kenya to borrow internationally


If the downgrade happens with the invariable consequence of expensive foreign debt,then we can as well forget the repeal/ammendment of the rate cap law in the medium term.


Repeal will be done asap because the next saviour will be IMF bailout who will give conditions and one of them will be repeal interest rates cap.


The structural damage is already done. Repealing the cap won't have much of an effect. Only a structural adjustment program will do

Quote:
Default in personal loan though jumped 42.4 per cent in 2016, compared to the previous year, as uptake of credit by individuals slowed – only growing 6.1 per cent – in the period....

“Contrary to common belief that low rates support NPL reduction, the correlation between lending rates and NPL ratio from FY03 – 2Q17, has been negative (-0.4),”

http://www.businessdaily...4288-6ucjohz/index.html

Agreed. Repealing/ammending the rate cap is the easy part. The problem is much bigger than that. With treasury seemingly at sea and unwilling/unable to do damage limitation, it will be very interesting to watch how KE sails in the next one year or so.
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Ericsson
#1515 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:41:18 PM
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Zambia moves to slow debt accumulation as it seeks IMF aid bailout
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the deal
#1516 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 11:07:46 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Zambia moves to slow debt accumulation as it seeks IMF aid bailout

The same Zambia whose debt was canceled or forgiven in the early 2000's? What did they do? They went on a borrowing spree... Did a stupid currency rebase just to fool the masses that Zambian economy is now stronger Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ericsson
#1517 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:18:40 PM
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http://kenyanwallstreet....ruction-2nd-jkia-runway

The African Development Bank (AfDB) has announced the approval of a Sh 16 Billion (US$ 160m) loan for the expansion of Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA).

The project entails construction of a 4.9-km second runway to International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Category II standards, including connecting taxiways, additional parking stands for aircraft, and an air rescue firefighting unit.

The existing single runway is operating at Category Flights Conditions level one (CAT-I) with a width of 45m and 4.1 km long. The 2nd runway will support more air traffic and facilitate increased tourism and business travel and expedite a two-way cargo traffic.

The project is designed to improve reliability of air transport to and from JKIA by reducing delays at peak hours and costly flight diversions arising from incidences on the existing runway, as well as the configuration of the existing single runway facility that impede the airports operational efficiency.
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the deal
#1518 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 10:36:22 AM
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Rate caps are working somewhere else... Removing them is a mistake... One of UhuruRuto best policies... They should just be relaxed... Lazy bankers should not be allowed to sabotage this noble initiative... Give them 2 years of profit declines... They will start lending lol
Ericsson
#1519 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 10:42:53 AM
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the deal wrote:
Rate caps are working somewhere else... Removing them is a mistake... One of UhuruRuto best policies... They should just be relaxed... Lazy bankers should not be allowed to sabotage this noble initiative... Give them 2 years of profit declines... They will start lending lol


Have you looked at the economic/monetary policy of those countries before coming to that conclusion.
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obiero
#1520 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 12:29:07 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
the deal wrote:
Rate caps are working somewhere else... Removing them is a mistake... One of UhuruRuto best policies... They should just be relaxed... Lazy bankers should not be allowed to sabotage this noble initiative... Give them 2 years of profit declines... They will start lending lol


Have you looked at the economic/monetary policy of those countries before coming to that conclusion.

Two years is too long a gamble.. The cap simply isn't working in its current state. It would be better to remove the floor on deposits at 70% of CBR. If banks don't succeed then Corporates go down, then SME goes down and the country follows

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