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Kenya Economy Watch
Angelica _ann
#2101 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:16:10 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:

If all the South Sudanese removed their dollars from Kenyas banks the dollar would be KES 180.


Governor Njoroge banned any locally affiliated financial institutions from commenting on the performance of the KES in public.smile
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NewMoney
#2102 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:43:02 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Shilling overvalued by 30 per cent - Amana Capital

Kenya is operating a managed shilling than a free float currency, running a risk of making its exports more expensive.

Speaking while unveiling a report that unpacks what is ailing Kenya's economy, Amana Capital chief investment officer Reginald Kadzutu said the shilling is overvalued by 30 per cent.

He explained that the consumer price index which was at Sh97 in 2009 has since risen to Sh192, meaning that Kenyans are spending Sh192 to buy what could be bought at Sh100 ten years ago, translating to 50 per cent devaluation of purchasing power.

''The shilling's exchange rate which was at 72 against the dollar in 2009 is now at Sh100. This represents 20 per cent devaluation, meaning the shilling is overvalued by 30 per cent, '' Kadzutu said.

Dubbed 'Kenya's Economic Puzzle', the report supports IMF's views on the shilling which were disputed by the Central Bank of Kenya.

https://www.the-star.co....per-cent-amana-capital/



All these while completely ignoring the fact that the dollar itself has inflated by 20% (or thereabouts) since 2009. Also, if the consumer price index goes up, it does not automatically imply inflation, a component of it could be explained by a rise in the cost of living, which results from forces of supply and demand for those consumer goods.

The IMF has its own reasons for claiming Kes is overvalued which they are not telling us, the numbers look good to me. The shilling is good, the Kenyan economy is strong, not everybody is happy about that, but what can we do....
Ericsson
#2103 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 6:21:35 PM
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https://www.the-star.co....orkers-sh4bn-deductions/
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obiero
#2104 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 7:02:20 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-09-broke-uon-ku-hold-workers-sh4bn-deductions/

The two boys

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
newfarer
#2105 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:50:51 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-09-broke-uon-ku-hold-workers-sh4bn-deductions/

The two boys

times are tough but don't tell me its the interest cap cos these universities are already operating on bank overdraft s
punda amecheka
Kusadikika
#2106 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:52:32 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-09-broke-uon-ku-hold-workers-sh4bn-deductions/

The two boys


UON is one of the biggest land owners in Nairobi. They just need to be creative and they can repay their debts and even generate surpluses. The problem with UON is that once people are employed they never leave regardless of performance. Believe me, if someone who was in UON 30 years ago goes there today he will find more than half of the people he left there are still there. Everybody from the groundsmen to the professors. Nothing changes, people keep their secure jobs and houses and side hustles.
obiero
#2107 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 12:05:48 AM
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newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-09-broke-uon-ku-hold-workers-sh4bn-deductions/

The two boys

times are tough but don't tell me its the interest cap cos these universities are already operating on bank overdraft s

Macroeconomics

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2108 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 8:31:20 AM
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obiero wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-09-broke-uon-ku-hold-workers-sh4bn-deductions/

The two boys

times are tough but don't tell me its the interest cap cos these universities are already operating on bank overdraft s

Macroeconomics


The two boys are worse than KANU as Obiero had mentioned
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kenyan2019
#2109 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:24:52 AM
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Ericsson
#2110 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:17:54 AM
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Petrol stations have now become shopping malls. They can’t really make a profit on petrol alone. This cost is one of the biggest costs to supply chains and logistics in Kenya. Remember all importers also pay for the railway levy.
The government now makes more per liter of petrol than the person who drilled for it, refined it, transported it and sold it *COMBINED*. For every liter of petrol, the government takes 51% of the price as taxes, but feels that dealers who would want 10% are greedy.
The government policy around petrol has made that worse. In 2010, cost of petrol had 30% of the cost as taxes. The government decided that a 10% profit margin was too high. They started regulating the price of fuel.
When global crude prices fell, they quietly and mischievously introduced more taxes, took the margin that would have previously been passed on to citizens and demonized the petrol station.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
whiteowl
#2111 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:58:41 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Petrol stations have now become shopping malls. They can’t really make a profit on petrol alone. This cost is one of the biggest costs to supply chains and logistics in Kenya. Remember all importers also pay for the railway levy.
The government now makes more per liter of petrol than the person who drilled for it, refined it, transported it and sold it *COMBINED*. For every liter of petrol, the government takes 51% of the price as taxes, but feels that dealers who would want 10% are greedy.
The government policy around petrol has made that worse. In 2010, cost of petrol had 30% of the cost as taxes. The government decided that a 10% profit margin was too high. They started regulating the price of fuel.
When global crude prices fell, they quietly and mischievously introduced more taxes, took the margin that would have previously been passed on to citizens and demonized the petrol station.


The Kenya economy is dead and buried under this tax regime.Fuel is a big factor of production and goods produced in other countries will always be cheaper.
kawi254
#2112 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:52:38 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Petrol stations have now become shopping malls. They can’t really make a profit on petrol alone. This cost is one of the biggest costs to supply chains and logistics in Kenya. Remember all importers also pay for the railway levy.
The government now makes more per liter of petrol than the person who drilled for it, refined it, transported it and sold it *COMBINED*. For every liter of petrol, the government takes 51% of the price as taxes, but feels that dealers who would want 10% are greedy.
The government policy around petrol has made that worse. In 2010, cost of petrol had 30% of the cost as taxes. The government decided that a 10% profit margin was too high. They started regulating the price of fuel.
When global crude prices fell, they quietly and mischievously introduced more taxes, took the margin that would have previously been passed on to citizens and demonized the petrol station.


Our Somali Brothers are running petrol stations profitably(or so I think)
littledove
#2113 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:47:50 PM
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https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Sh300bn-Turkana-oil-deal-to-remain-secret/539546-5171844-xdshhvz/index.html
Kenya has signed a deal with Turkana oil exploration firms that will see them source up to Sh300 billion ($3 billion) funding from international financiers, but Petroleum Secretary John Munyes says the agreement will be kept secret from taxpayers.

Petroleum Ministry bureaucrats cited official secrecy and commercial confidentiality while declining to disclose details of the agreement reached with three oil majors for development of the South Lokichar oil basin.

These secret deals will come to haunt us one day. A day will come when we will be told we cannot benefit from our oil production for 30 years because the government signed certain agreements and that how prices of petrol will remain high in kenya for decades despite the much celebrated oil production
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winmak
#2114 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2019 1:46:22 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Petrol stations have now become shopping malls. They can’t really make a profit on petrol alone. This cost is one of the biggest costs to supply chains and logistics in Kenya. Remember all importers also pay for the railway levy.
The government now makes more per liter of petrol than the person who drilled for it, refined it, transported it and sold it *COMBINED*. For every liter of petrol, the government takes 51% of the price as taxes, but feels that dealers who would want 10% are greedy.
The government policy around petrol has made that worse. In 2010, cost of petrol had 30% of the cost as taxes. The government decided that a 10% profit margin was too high. They started regulating the price of fuel.
When global crude prices fell, they quietly and mischievously introduced more taxes, took the margin that would have previously been passed on to citizens and demonized the petrol station.


Our Somali Brothers are running petrol stations profitably(or so I think)



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Ericsson
#2115 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:13:49 PM
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Our goal of achieving 500,000 affordable houses by 2020 will require about USD 13 Billion in financing, we are calling upon investors to support this noble course ~ @PSCharlesHinga
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Angelica _ann
#2116 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:49:44 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Our goal of achieving 500,000 affordable houses by 2020 will require about USD 13 Billion in financing, we are calling upon investors to support this noble course ~ @PSCharlesHinga


2020, Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Hii Jubilee bure kabisa.
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Balaa
#2117 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:09:58 PM
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Support? As in "handouts"? Somebody tell him that investors are in the business of investing (for a profit).
Why GoK not simply create conditions conducive for the investors then the CS needn't sound this desperate? Enyewe ignorance is bliss.... All that most govt officials seem to do these days is pay lip service to the so-called Big 4 agenda. The idea's being bandied by any sycophant for self-expediency.
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Ericsson
#2118 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 4:46:18 AM
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https://www.standardmedi...h67b-goes-down-the-drain
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obiero
#2119 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 5:12:57 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001331585/pensioners-suffer-as-their-sh67b-goes-down-the-drain

Almost cried while reading this

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Fyatu
#2120 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48:18 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001331585/pensioners-suffer-as-their-sh67b-goes-down-the-drain

Almost cried while reading this


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