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Josey
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:56:02 AM
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If this is true about MPESA Ltd. Then ninaomba serkali... ya digital isa idie...
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:14:14 PM
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It happens in alot of places nowadays..........
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:45:31 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
It happens in alot of places nowadays..........


..and it is illegal, right?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:58:07 PM
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:03:23 PM
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They should join an union. Will give HRs of these Big Companies nightmares...
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King G
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:19:10 PM
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Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:44:31 PM
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Josey wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
It happens in alot of places nowadays..........


..and it is illegal, right?


Nothing illegal there.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:53:12 PM
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I think the issue they are raising is a MORAL one rather than a LEGAL one. As much as I sympathize, I don't think there much of a legal case against the company.

Think of it in terms of Apple vs it workers in China.
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Muheani
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:53:25 PM
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King G wrote:
Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.


Ditto!!!

The law on Contractual employment is very clear.
The rolling contracts..thats a pain...but again...not really illegal.


I guess...we should be very careful not to screem on top of our voices on the side of the employees..

Did you see anywhere the said "victims" (those laid off) have said they were infact kept on safcoms payroll, none for less than an yr, and most for longer than 1.3 yrs...

....with full salary and medical cover while the company was waiting for them to either recover or get other non headsets using positions internally?

Iam privy to that information.

Truth be told, if for any reason you are not able to meet terms of your explained and signed contract...then renegotiation or termination of contract follows.

However, you can only say may b some more gratuity on "human" and not medical or legal reason could have surficed.

The onus is on the said laid off staff to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the ENT conditions they experienced were primarily and only as a result of their employment.
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chemos
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:23:20 PM
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Muheani wrote:
King G wrote:
Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.


Ditto!!!

The law on Contractual employment is very clear.
The rolling contracts..thats a pain...but again...not really illegal.


I guess...we should be very careful not to screem on top of our voices on the side of the employees..

Did you see anywhere the said "victims" (those laid off) have said they were infact kept on safcoms payroll, none for less than an yr, and most for longer than 1.3 yrs...

....with full salary and medical cover while the company was waiting for them to either recover or get other non headsets using positions internally?

Iam privy to that information.

Truth be told, if for any reason you are not able to meet terms of your explained and signed contract...then renegotiation or termination of contract follows.

However, you can only say may b some more gratuity on "human" and not medical or legal reason could have surficed.

The onus is on the said laid off staff to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the ENT conditions they experienced were primarily and only as a result of their employment.







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Impunity
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:32:29 PM
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jguru wrote:
They should join an union. Will give HRs of these Big Companies nightmares...


...an union...?

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King G
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:37:02 PM
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Impunity wrote:
jguru wrote:
They should join an union. Will give HRs of these Big Companies nightmares...


...an union...?

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:49:39 PM
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chemos wrote:
Muheani wrote:
King G wrote:
Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.


Ditto!!!

The law on Contractual employment is very clear.
The rolling contracts..thats a pain...but again...not really illegal.


I guess...we should be very careful not to screem on top of our voices on the side of the employees..

Did you see anywhere the said "victims" (those laid off) have said they were infact kept on safcoms payroll, none for less than an yr, and most for longer than 1.3 yrs...

....with full salary and medical cover while the company was waiting for them to either recover or get other non headsets using positions internally?

Iam privy to that information.

Truth be told, if for any reason you are not able to meet terms of your explained and signed contract...then renegotiation or termination of contract follows.

However, you can only say may b some more gratuity on "human" and not medical or legal reason could have surficed.

The onus is on the said laid off staff to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the ENT conditions they experienced were primarily and only as a result of their employment.







Are u Nzioka Waita??d'oh! d'oh!


Or Ogutu hehehehehe
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Muheani
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:05:55 PM
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washiku wrote:
chemos wrote:
Muheani wrote:
King G wrote:
Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.


Ditto!!!

The law on Contractual employment is very clear.
The rolling contracts..thats a pain...but again...not really illegal.


I guess...we should be very careful not to screem on top of our voices on the side of the employees..

Did you see anywhere the said "victims" (those laid off) have said they were infact kept on safcoms payroll, none for less than an yr, and most for longer than 1.3 yrs...

....with full salary and medical cover while the company was waiting for them to either recover or get other non headsets using positions internally?

Iam privy to that information.

Truth be told, if for any reason you are not able to meet terms of your explained and signed contract...then renegotiation or termination of contract follows.

However, you can only say may b some more gratuity on "human" and not medical or legal reason could have surficed.

The onus is on the said laid off staff to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the ENT conditions they experienced were primarily and only as a result of their employment.







Are u Nzioka Waita??d'oh! d'oh!


Or Ogutu hehehehehe



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jguru
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:09:45 PM
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King G wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jguru wrote:
They should join an union. Will give HRs of these Big Companies nightmares...


...an union...?

Ilikuya na meli kwere....hahahahaaa.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


bigger than Atwoli's Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly




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maka
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:13:48 PM
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chemos wrote:
Muheani wrote:
King G wrote:
Am in consultancy in HRM and i dont see anything Safcom is doing wrong except for the 6 months rolling contracts.

Let them accept the employment terms and continue working or get another job and move on. Alai can also go to SC on their behalf.


Ditto!!!

The law on Contractual employment is very clear.
The rolling contracts..thats a pain...but again...not really illegal.


I guess...we should be very careful not to screem on top of our voices on the side of the employees..

Did you see anywhere the said "victims" (those laid off) have said they were infact kept on safcoms payroll, none for less than an yr, and most for longer than 1.3 yrs...

....with full salary and medical cover while the company was waiting for them to either recover or get other non headsets using positions internally?

Iam privy to that information.

Truth be told, if for any reason you are not able to meet terms of your explained and signed contract...then renegotiation or termination of contract follows.

However, you can only say may b some more gratuity on "human" and not medical or legal reason could have surficed.

The onus is on the said laid off staff to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the ENT conditions they experienced were primarily and only as a result of their employment.







Are u Nzioka Waita??d'oh! d'oh!

I actually wanted to say that @muheani should answer on Bob's behalf well done no case here...
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:32:35 PM
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Josey wrote:
If this is true about MPESA Ltd. Then ninaomba serkali... ya digital isa idie...
safariCon



What is the objective of Alai publishing this letter?

I do not think that it contains any illegality. Kama ni propaganda ya competitors Alai aseme
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maka
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:18:10 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
Josey wrote:
If this is true about MPESA Ltd. Then ninaomba serkali... ya digital isa idie...
safariCon



What is the objective of Alai publishing this letter?

I do not think that it contains any illegality. Kama ni propaganda ya competitors Alai aseme

It may have been in good faith but the approach is wrong,among the telecos scom still pays its employees really well and treats them nicely,they have a sense of belonging etc etc cutting costs is there and real all.over the world...
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#19 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:06:04 AM
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Safaricom sues SHITTY blogger Alai for libel
http://www.nation.co.ke/...80/-/f2f5k6/-/index.html
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#20 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:24:18 AM
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[quote=Mastermind]Safaricom sues SHITTY blogger Alai for libel
http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/f2f5k6/-/index.html[/quote]

The hits his site will get,lol.That move will haunt them later on because now he's got the attention of more people.
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