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Political Perks; Kenyan Style Najivunia
Manyala
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:32:58 PM
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They are already at it.

http://t.co/hcUADPIuE4

Truely, we get the leaders we elect.
Manyala
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:35:01 PM
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Shak
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:21:12 PM
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They knew what they would be earning before they chose to run. Why complain now? Honestly, what should be done to these people?
harrydre
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:03:00 AM
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from the link

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MPs are entitled to a car loan of Sh7 million, and a mortgage of Sh20 million, both to be repaid at three per cent interest by June 2017. The MPs would have to repay the loan in four years and three months.

If an MP takes all the loans, they would have to repay between Sh545,000 and Sh570,000 a month from their taxable pay of Sh532,500.


They are using the loans as an excuse! How about reducing the entitlement to 4M for the car and 10M for the mortgage? and do they have to live in the leafy places? indeed they should be living in their respective constituencies.
i.am.back!!!!
Seq Lu
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:19:36 AM
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like someone said else where, they should resign if the salary is too little ..

meanwhile President Barack Obama will voluntarily return 5 percent of his $400,000 salary to the United States Treasury, a White House official confirmed Wednesday

Like many of his civilian colleagues at the Pentagon, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel is taking a pay cut equal to 14 furlough days. Obama’s refund to the Treasury will amount to $16,666.67 over the rest of the year.

see that. ..

They keep moving the cheese

stolen from opensuse forums :)
guru267
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:23:41 AM
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UMK must put a stop to this by emphasizing the importance of the independence of institutions!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
xyzee
#7 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:01:53 AM
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how exactly are they planning to do this, I thought the process is enshrined in the constitution.
Rahatupu
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:28:22 AM
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xyzee wrote:
how exactly are they planning to do this, I thought the process is enshrined in the constitution.



The reality is that the outgoing House set a precedent in this behaviour and it seems to me that the new MPigs are so determined, I will not be surprised if they succeed. They can hold House business at ransom and given that this is an issue that would defy party lines, UK is in for a tough test indeed.
MaichBlack
#9 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:34:57 AM
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harrydre wrote:
from the link

Quote:
MPs are entitled to a car loan of Sh7 million, and a mortgage of Sh20 million, both to be repaid at three per cent interest by June 2017. The MPs would have to repay the loan in four years and three months.

If an MP takes all the loans, they would have to repay between Sh545,000 and Sh570,000 a month from their taxable pay of Sh532,500.


They are using the loans as an excuse! How about reducing the entitlement to 4M for the car and 10M for the mortgage? and do they have to live in the leafy places? indeed they should be living in their respective constituencies.

Using loan repayment as an excuse is a lorry load of human cow dung!!!

I am sure that if a majority of Wazuans/Kenyans talked to their bank manager, they will "realize" that they have qualified for a loan they haven't taken [yet]! You din't just take a loan because you have qualified for one or one is offering you one! You must know exactly what you want to do with the money and how you are planning to repay it.

And these bloody leeches are getting the loan at 3% interest p.a. Who else gets loans at those rates in Kenya??? Even University students [who don't know if they will EVER get a job and some from extremely poor families] get loans from HELB at 4%. And the loan is not even guaranteed!!

And some of the leeches were there in the previous parliament and got another car and house loan courtesy of Kenyan tax payers!!! Now they want another car and house courtesy of same overtaxed Kenyans. And they actually even want us to pay for them the loan [through a salary increment]? Didn't we just pay their taxes??

I propose we actually take away the right to tax payer subsidised loans and if they want one the go to a bank like their employer [you and I] does!

And who uses such an argument to get a salary hike. You go tell your employer that you are planning to take a car and house loan and you are demanding he hikes your salary so that you can be able to repay the loans. You would come out as the biggest idiot south of Sahara and North of Limpopo. Which is exactly what those members agitating for a hike are!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#10 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:41:52 AM
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guru267 wrote:
UMK must put a stop to this by emphasizing the importance of the independence of institutions!!

I hope he gets out the big whip and deals with this fellows. And he should do the same thing he did with Shebesh and Sonko when they deserted baba yao!

He should tell them to their face that the Salaries commission has spoken, it's independence is to be respected, there are more pressing things to do, their salary is MORE than sufficient given the size of the Kenyan economy, he will NEVER sign a bill seeking to disband the commission or increase members salaries and who ever doesn't like it can quit and go back to his high paying job - never mind some are former makangas, kiosk owners and some have never had a real job or thriving business to speak about!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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