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Madness at the NSE
Angelica _ann
#1341 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 3:04:27 PM
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Posts: 11,901
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week


Uchumi & Neveready will be competing on who will be the 1st to join.

Uchumi 1.30 Neveready 1.20

Other candidates are Olympia, Express. KQ slyqueen consolidated.


Waiting for right of rebuttable smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#1342 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 4:32:31 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week


Uchumi & Neveready will be competing on who will be the 1st to join.

Uchumi 1.30 Neveready 1.20

Other candidates are Olympia, Express. KQ slyqueen consolidated.


Waiting for right of rebuttable smile smile

Lol

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
kayhara
#1343 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:03:05 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya
To Each His Own
sparkly
#1344 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:16:36 PM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?
Life is short. Live passionately.
Angelica _ann
#1345 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:39:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,901
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?


A number of these shares will be suspended soon. Seeing NBV also headed sub bob.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#1346 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:56:44 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,641
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?


A number of these shares will be suspended soon. Seeing NBV also headed sub bob.



Suspension is a pipe dream
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#1347 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:17:13 PM
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Location: NAIROBI
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1348 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:45:17 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?


A number of these shares will be suspended soon. Seeing NBV also headed sub bob.



Suspension is a pipe dream

HAFR is likely to be done away with..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1349 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:51:06 PM
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Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share

Imagine!!!! Unfortunately not buying KQ anymore.. That price is tempting

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
the deal
#1350 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:33:01 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share

Imagine!!!! Unfortunately not buying KQ anymore.. That price is tempting


Best decision to make Applause Applause Applause
VituVingiSana
#1351 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:33:18 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,060
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?

KES 0.05?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1352 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:39:52 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,060
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share

Imagine!!!! Unfortunately not buying KQ anymore.. That price is tempting

Don't listen to pessimists! BUY, BUY, BUY... Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
muandiwambeu
#1353 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 7:12:49 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?

0.50 since that will allow the 0.05/= denomination and 10% rule to apply. Apply that with caution. At 0.495/= u r in the imaginary world.
Ie
10% of 0.5/= is equal to 0.05/= roundindi down, but of 0.495/= is equal to zero damn. πŸ’©. How low do u wish you averaging down should go πŸ˜‚
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
lochaz-index
#1354 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 7:47:16 PM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
Ericsson wrote:
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share

One of the brokers had a sell recommendation with a target price of KES 0.8...even that is pricey for a firm that is in negative equity and sinking further.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
ARAP CHARLES
#1355 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 7:53:39 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/30/2016
Posts: 217
Location: Talai
THIS IS PURE WORLD MADNESS IN CAPITAL LETTERS.. what is happpening...
Watch and Listen and Live
kayhara
#1356 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 7:57:41 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
muandiwambeu wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
2 pm 11/09/18
Mumias sugar at 0.65
Hafri at 0.6
Uchumi at 1.30
and going down
Nice buy opportunity or get in line an get slaughtered? nikubaya


What's the lowest a share can trade at?

0.50 since that will allow the 0.05/= denomination and 10% rule to apply. Apply that with caution. At 0.495/= u r in the imaginary world.
Ie
10% of 0.5/= is equal to 0.05/= roundindi down, but of 0.495/= is equal to zero damn. πŸ’©. How low do u wish you averaging down should go πŸ˜‚

My question is who is selling t this prices? could the guys who bought at 21 be getting out? would it not make sense to just hold out the winter, I think CMA can not just suspend a share because it's trading at rock bottom prices, but then I might be wrong.
To Each His Own
lochaz-index
#1357 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:01:16 PM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.

Closed at 3045 headed to sub 3000. Only the Feb 2017 lows now stand between the market at its current position and the GFC low of 2360. Some stocks have already surpassed those lows and are now aiming at the 2002 levels...interesting.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Angelica _ann
#1358 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:05:02 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,901
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.

Closed at 3045 headed to sub 3000. Only the Feb 2017 lows now stand between the market at its current position and the GFC low of 2360. Some stocks have already surpassed those lows and are now aiming at the 2002 levels...interesting.


The way things are going, we are headed there smile TANO TENA Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly .
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
muandiwambeu
#1359 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:46:26 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Angelica _ann wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.

Closed at 3045 headed to sub 3000. Only the Feb 2017 lows now stand between the market at its current position and the GFC low of 2360. Some stocks have already surpassed those lows and are now aiming at the 2002 levels...interesting.


The way things are going, we are headed there smile TANO TENA Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly .

Kumiria kumiriaπŸ’ πŸ’ πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’ πŸ’πŸ’ πŸ’πŸ’ πŸ’πŸ’ πŸ’πŸ’ πŸ’ tooo many to make a business snse anyway.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#1360 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:19:35 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,060
Location: Nairobi
lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Even KQ not immune to madness as it goes below ksh.10 per share

One of the brokers had a sell recommendation with a target price of KES 0.8...even that is pricey for a firm that is in negative equity and sinking further.

A simple solution. Another Reverse Split Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This process can continue until there are just 100 shares left smile

All those shares trading at sub-5 should be forced to have reverse splits to get them trading at a minimum of 10/- until they crater again!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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