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Madness at the NSE
obiero
#1321 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2018 3:38:03 PM
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maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad



Good, we need BAT & Jubilee @200 smile smile smile

I don't know where I will get the money, but I will. I will not miss that party of sub3000

Buying will be the easy part. Staying put - awaiting the uptick - in spite of falling or stagnant prices will be the hard part.


To be honest at the moment Id rather buy fixed income... Then with the coupon payments buy stocks... Equities will be down for a while...

I'm glad that I was out while the tide turned.. Market is still expensive..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#1322 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2018 3:46:29 PM
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Deacons at 70 cents
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#1323 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2018 4:19:19 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Deacons at 70 cents


some you just have to Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#1324 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:55:36 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2010
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lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.
@SufficientlyP
Ericsson
#1325 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 12:33:02 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.


NMG @75 per share
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1326 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 1:37:48 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.


NMG @75 per share

Crazy!

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
muandiwambeu
#1327 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 2:38:28 PM
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Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, today we are on our way to breach the Dec 2011 low of 3070 on the NSE 20. Next stop will be the Jan 2017 low of 2790. If this too is taken out, we shall be staring at the March 2009 lows of 2360. If Uhuru refuses to bite the bullet at this level and tame his huge appetite for loans, then we can look at more rout targeting the September 2002 low of 1005Sad


I think anything below 3000 will translate into a long winter. From the reaction of KE eurobond yields I would say it is almost a certainty. Of critical importance right now despite the irksome nature of their involvement, is for KE to remain in the good graces of the IMF. Yank that support out and it becomes a very steep and nasty decline across all asset classes. That implies the VAT on petroleum stays and the rate cap goes.

Note that yield on the 10yr note has been declining (about a 100bps) since the advent of the caps against a tide of rising global interest rates. The more the cap remains the more destructive the snap will be when it is finally lifted. This is coz it will have to rise that much faster to catch up with the global average for EM/FM.

The rate cap has worked in similar fashion to a currency peg and this is a bad environment for the cbk to try and defend it. All things held constant, how KE will navigate next year will be the deciding factor when principal bullet payments on debt come due.

This will be quite interesting.
On the NSE, a long winter is here with us and salvation will only come after financial discipline in the public sector is attained, a tall order by all means and might require a change of guard at the top.


NMG @75 per share

Crazy!

Crazy times ahead. Ask me what am I waiting for. For my concrete work to be finished I leverage on it because I am confident:-
Britam will trade sub 9/= when the happy hearts know tharat is not a loser
2. Kq will trade sub 6/= when NY dust blows
3. NMG chini ya mbei ya DN
3. EABl chini ya mbei ya tusker, nitabandirishanga bottle kwa hisa moja na change napata
4. BAT sub 450/
5. CFC sub 60
6. Kplc, sub token ya 4/=
7. K_gin. Kubole.
Hi, men. I will be robbing every bank with my fattened titledeeds.
Foreman hebu harakisha hapo, naona mawingu gathering to the east at a distance.
Hiyo maneno ya bengi, hebu tuachie J.m
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Ericsson
#1328 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 3:26:56 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets


And there we are sub-30 clocked.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#1329 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 3:32:08 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets

Next is Eveready going below ksh.1
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#1330 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 3:52:01 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,901
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets

Next is Eveready going below ksh.1


There was a guy who was really into Neveready where did he disappear to smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#1331 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 6:12:09 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets

Next is Eveready going below ksh.1


There was a guy who was really into Neveready where did he disappear to smile

Undoubtedly moving to sumuni territory by next week Wednesday

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
rwitre
#1332 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 6:35:15 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets


And there we are sub-30 clocked.


NSE 2018 is Ulcers Central Sad
obiero
#1333 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2018 7:07:13 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
rwitre wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets


And there we are sub-30 clocked.


NSE 2018 is Ulcers Central Sad

Tragic

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Kenyan Oracle
#1334 Posted : Saturday, September 08, 2018 12:13:40 PM
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Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 247
rwitre wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets


And there we are sub-30 clocked.


NSE 2018 is Ulcers Central Sad



Depending on where you are standing. Some of us are waiting to load up more on Simba, Carbacid, na Mpesa bank, tho it's really resilient - Imekaa ngumu.
You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
Horton
#1335 Posted : Saturday, September 08, 2018 3:42:03 PM
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Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
rwitre wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Blood on the streets and my own is all over.


NIC bank share price goes below 30.
Next will be Centum,real blood on the streets


And there we are sub-30 clocked.


NSE 2018 is Ulcers Central Sad



Depending on where you are standing. Some of us are waiting to load up more on Simba, Carbacid, na Mpesa bank, tho it's really resilient - Imekaa ngumu.


True dat
Ericsson
#1336 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 10:44:07 AM
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Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1337 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 10:48:52 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#1338 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 10:51:23 AM
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Posts: 11,901
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week


Uchumi & Neveready will be competing on who will be the 1st to join.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#1339 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 1:49:10 PM
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Posts: 10,639
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week


Uchumi & Neveready will be competing on who will be the 1st to join.

Uchumi 1.30 Neveready 1.20
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#1340 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 2:58:41 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Another company joins the 70 cents a share club;
Deacons
Home Afrika
Mumias

Uchumi likely to join the party before end of this week


Uchumi & Neveready will be competing on who will be the 1st to join.

Uchumi 1.30 Neveready 1.20

Other candidates are Olympia, Express. KQ were sly to consolidate.
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