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Madness at the NSE
obiero
#2441 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2023 8:19:53 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
MaichBlack
#2442 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2023 10:23:51 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

When are Equity results being released?

The "inside information" we have been receiving here has been very outside!!!

I want to buy before the release. If they declare a dividend of kshs. 4/= to 5/= it is bye bye discount prices.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#2443 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2023 10:27:30 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

That's the spirit. This discounts are very easy to miss. Turn around comes suddenly and the price start retracing with very thin volumes available to buy.

I remember equity suddenly falling to 28/= slightly over a year ago, I blinked that material day and it started rising daily from the next day. Decided not to panic chase and before I knew the bus was gone!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#2444 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2023 10:29:28 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#2445 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2023 10:31:41 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
We always say cash is king but if your cash is in Kshs... iko shida!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Queen
#2446 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 3:30:20 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 561
Location: Britain
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.


The fact that they have taken forever to announce their FY results points to one thing; the news won't be anything to write home about.

5/= dividend is a tad over the top, not forgetting that a couple of years ago they announced a modest dividend before promptly cancelling it.

I recall with nostalgia when Equity used to be always the first to announce their FY results. Those were the days when Equity was the leader in the banking sector.
Queen
#2447 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 3:34:41 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 561
Location: Britain
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


BAT currently trading at 420/= cum-dividend looks rather crazy. This epitomises the madness at the NSE.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2448 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 4:41:02 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,218
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
Queen wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.


The fact that they have taken forever to announce their FY results points to one thing; the news won't be anything to write home about.

5/= dividend is a tad over the top, not forgetting that a couple of years ago they announced a modest dividend before promptly cancelling it.

I recall with nostalgia when Equity used to be always the first to announce their FY results. Those were the days when Equity was the leader in the banking sector.

Correct.
In 2007, their best set of accounts ever, where they gave a bonus of 2 for every 1 share held, FY2006 results were released on February 13th 2007!
Where is Kibaki?smile
@SufficientlyP
MaichBlack
#2449 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 6:36:44 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
Queen wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.


The fact that they have taken forever to announce their FY results points to one thing; the news won't be anything to write home about.

5/= dividend is a tad over the top, not forgetting that a couple of years ago they announced a modest dividend before promptly cancelling it.

I recall with nostalgia when Equity used to be always the first to announce their FY results. Those were the days when Equity was the leader in the banking sector.

Equity results will be very good. The only bad news might be hiw earnings they decide to retain.

Equity decided to cancel payment of dividends because of COVID and that was very responsible. They wanted to ensure they had enough funds to navigate a trying period full of unknowns and they did. Even individuals who had money "retained their earnings". They kept as much of the money as they could to deal with all the unknowns.

You cannot give dividends in the middle of a global pandemic and then start hustling for capital/funds if the shocks are too much!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Queen
#2450 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 7:00:34 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 561
Location: Britain
MaichBlack wrote:
Queen wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.


The fact that they have taken forever to announce their FY results points to one thing; the news won't be anything to write home about.

5/= dividend is a tad over the top, not forgetting that a couple of years ago they announced a modest dividend before promptly cancelling it.

I recall with nostalgia when Equity used to be always the first to announce their FY results. Those were the days when Equity was the leader in the banking sector.

Equity results will be very good. The only bad news might be hiw earnings they decide to retain.

Equity decided to cancel payment of dividends because of COVID and that was very responsible. They wanted to ensure they had enough funds to navigate a trying period full of unknowns and they did. Even individuals who had money "retained their earnings". They kept as much of the money as they could to deal with all the unknowns.

You cannot give dividends in the middle of a global pandemic and then start hustling for capital/funds if the shocks are too much!!!


Remember KCB results were also very good. However, when it came to declaring a decent dividend, that is where they drew the line.

Anyway we shall know the reality in the course of this week but am not sanguine.
MaichBlack
#2451 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:29:29 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,451
Queen wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Queen wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Meanwhile, another trading day, another rout. The bears firmly on the driver's seat!

I am already in the red on additional shares I bought this week because I knew announcement of results might push them up. I made sure I bought on Monday and some on Tuesday!! Then it was Rhumba time!!!

My biggest problem is not even the price per say (I am long term) but how many more shares I would have bought had I bought today or probably next week. And it is maaany!!!


The regret/opportunity costs/mistakes etc can make one overindulge especially seeing today is Furahiday.
Honestly,this week has been like playing in the casino. You want to seat on your hands but the temptation to press sell/buy button overwhelms you!

Exactly!!! I still need to buy more Equity and watching the market today tells me I should go in on Monday at 37 - 38. I might go in and we discover new lows. Or there is a turn around and I even don't get the chance to buy at those levels!!! You don't know what to expect.

Same for BAT. It seems like it will get support at 430 but no one knows if that will hold!!!


Consider staggering the buys over the 3 days ending Wednesday

Today was my day one,whatever will be will be.

The prices were quite enticing today!

@cnn the trigger has been pulled too quickly, patience is a virtue.. but your boldness is commendable

On this, patience might become a vice. If Equity announce a dividend of 5/= or thereabout, it is back to 40s and above.


The fact that they have taken forever to announce their FY results points to one thing; the news won't be anything to write home about.

5/= dividend is a tad over the top, not forgetting that a couple of years ago they announced a modest dividend before promptly cancelling it.

I recall with nostalgia when Equity used to be always the first to announce their FY results. Those were the days when Equity was the leader in the banking sector.

Equity results will be very good. The only bad news might be hiw earnings they decide to retain.

Equity decided to cancel payment of dividends because of COVID and that was very responsible. They wanted to ensure they had enough funds to navigate a trying period full of unknowns and they did. Even individuals who had money "retained their earnings". They kept as much of the money as they could to deal with all the unknowns.

You cannot give dividends in the middle of a global pandemic and then start hustling for capital/funds if the shocks are too much!!!


Remember KCB results were also very good. However, when it came to declaring a decent dividend, that is where they drew the line.

Anyway we shall know the reality in the course of this week but am not sanguine.

True!!!

Everyone was very upbeat on banking stocks and dividends just a while ago! But KCB ni nani!!?? Mwagilia maji pap!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mwanahisa
#2452 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:59:12 AM
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Guys, I know Equity Bank has been a market darling but the delay in the release of results has me VERY worried. In their 3rd quarter results, Equity also had a staggering loss of 45 BILLION KSHS in FAIR VALUE CHANGES IN FVOCI assets. This was on investment securities held with a value of Kshs 352 Billion. It looks like they invested big time in govt securities when rates were low. I doubt whether they would have been able to unwind these positions before year-end. If so, then we should even brace ourselves for an actual loss on their P&L, because the PBT in September was 44.2 B, i.e. lower than the mark to market losses on their bond positions! This was pretty scary.
My 2 cents
#2453 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:22:09 AM
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This sounds like the same issue that affected SVB. Because of the rise in rates, they took a massive hit in the value of their treasurer holdings. They announced plans to come into the market for a capital raise and then all hell broke loose. They had a massive bank run. Not saying there will be the same effect in Equity however if Equity is massively overweighted in government paper at this time of rising rates they will have to eat some big losses.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2454 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:40:42 AM
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SHORT TERM
If you bought SAFARICOM at 16.50 last week on Thursday, you should consider selling at 19 and wait to get back in at 15-16 levels.
You would be a fool to stare at a 15% gain in 1 week while SITTING ON YOUR HANDS!
@SufficientlyP
Queen
#2455 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:38:41 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
SHORT TERM
If you bought SAFARICOM at 16.50 last week on Thursday, you should consider selling at 19 and wait to get back in at 15-16 levels.
You would be a fool to stare at a 15% gain in 1 week while SITTING ON YOUR HANDS!


If you factor in the transactional charges, your gains are only 10.8%.... not very attractive since the direction of the share price is still uncertain/unpredictable.
Queen
#2456 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:40:28 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Guys, I know Equity Bank has been a market darling but the delay in the release of results has me VERY worried. In their 3rd quarter results, Equity also had a staggering loss of 45 BILLION KSHS in FAIR VALUE CHANGES IN FVOCI assets. This was on investment securities held with a value of Kshs 352 Billion. It looks like they invested big time in govt securities when rates were low. I doubt whether they would have been able to unwind these positions before year-end. If so, then we should even brace ourselves for an actual loss on their P&L, because the PBT in September was 44.2 B, i.e. lower than the mark to market losses on their bond positions! This was pretty scary.


My exact sentiments.

Hopefully a two weeks delay, after other banks have released their results, does not imply that Equity has deployed some cooks in their kitchen.
MaichBlack
#2457 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:56:58 AM
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Ladiès and gentlemen relax!!! Equity Bank Results will come and they will be good. We might just get 4/= dividend.

Have some faith.

I put my money where my faith is by adding a huge number yesterday at an abp of 38/=.

Disclaimer: I know this os Kenya and anything is possible. KCB reminded us the other day. No one - including myself - saw the dividend slicing coming. I never saw anyone alluding to it. I am therefore psychologically prepared for any surprises as usual.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2458 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:12:31 PM
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Queen wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
SHORT TERM
If you bought SAFARICOM at 16.50 last week on Thursday, you should consider selling at 19 and wait to get back in at 15-16 levels.
You would be a fool to stare at a 15% gain in 1 week while SITTING ON YOUR HANDS!


If you factor in the transactional charges, your gains are only 10.8%.... not very attractive since the direction of the share price is still uncertain/unpredictable.


To each, their own. As for me, 10% in 6 days IS EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE!
As for the direction of the stock, the trend is downwards, has been since November 2021 when for the first time in a decade, they reported reduced profits. Of course, at some point, the trend will reverse, hopefully in May, if the profitability improves when they release FY2022-2023. Until then, what we have now is a retracement.
The order book(offboard bids and offers) also points to a downward trend.
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2459 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:40:06 PM
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Also FED meets today at 9pm Nairobi time to decide on the FED rate. consensus is for them to hike from 4.75% to 5%. anything above this will lead to further bleeding at the NSE as the KES will get more exposure. Anything below this will be welcome news!
@SufficientlyP
heri
#2460 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:14:23 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Guys, I know Equity Bank has been a market darling but the delay in the release of results has me VERY worried. In their 3rd quarter results, Equity also had a staggering loss of 45 BILLION KSHS in FAIR VALUE CHANGES IN FVOCI assets. This was on investment securities held with a value of Kshs 352 Billion. It looks like they invested big time in govt securities when rates were low. I doubt whether they would have been able to unwind these positions before year-end. If so, then we should even brace ourselves for an actual loss on their P&L, because the PBT in September was 44.2 B, i.e. lower than the mark to market losses on their bond positions! This was pretty scary.


I remember this. Was this huge investment in GOK securities unique to equity? What about KCB , Coop ?
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