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Kenya Power - what's the latest?
heri
#361 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2016 4:19:02 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
The bright folks at institute of economic affairs had an energy forum on Thursday that brought out some interesting numbers.

Don't have all the figures but a 30% increase in connections translated to a 3% increase in energy consumption.




wow. how is that? are the new connections using such little electricity
VituVingiSana
#362 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:06:34 PM
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heri wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
The bright folks at institute of economic affairs had an energy forum on Thursday that brought out some interesting numbers.

Don't have all the figures but a 30% increase in connections translated to a 3% increase in energy consumption.




wow. how is that? are the new connections using such little electricity

Yes.

1) The MAJOR users of electricity [industries] were already connected to the grid or have power plants eg ARM at Kaloleni.
2) Most "moderate" users eg commercial spaces were also connected eg office buildings and malls.
3) Most "high-use" residential were also connected. Thinks middle-class and above in Kenya's largest cities.
4) New connections in RURAL areas often have low [& often subsidized] usage vs the (3) with all the fancy fridges, TVs, laptops!
5) There are some users who are OFFICIALLY connected but with low OFFICIAL usage. Illegal connections, tampered meters, etc.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mkate_nusu
#363 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:29:18 PM
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enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
instinct wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
moneydust wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
moneydust wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
You can imagine how hardened iam,despite all this noise iam buying to exit at 16



Same here..heavily invested at sub 9..hope am not wrong.

we can't bite the dustsmile trusting wazua so much can make you own nothing


With this one I cant believe how pessimistic the market has become..a monopoly in its sector, with a growing demand for its services,a price earning ratio of less than 3 even with the government control,this share should not be trading this low.

If one can be wrong on this one,then one cant be right in anything.

what are the most likely impacts of the introduction of token meters to kplc's :-
a. metering effectiveness, billing strategy and eventual migration to token metering?
b. how will the above transition period complicate kplc's ability to reign on power losses hence revenue loss.
c. will the fines and disconnection fees contribute revenue boosting and hence profitability significantly hence forth.
my takes.


The amount of looting going on in there by arap mashamba and team is mind boggling. and currently its being run like a govt department. do not be surprised by a 2B shillings loss end year

Can people explain how the looting is being done, estimated figures etc.

All I am hearing here are rumours.

The fact that an ecosystem seems like it has been set up to bleed a company doesn't necessarily mean that is the case (though of course the level of alertness should be raised to red) and the fact that an ecosystem is seems like it is set up to grow the company doesn't necessarily mean that is the case!

Can we have some facts here or something that is close to facts.


1st of all we know who is the majority single investor kenya power-Mama ngina. Now I don't think looting can be possible without someone like her being sensitive on her money safety.hii ni tribal speculation because of tribe ya in charge of kenya power and one in charge cs.hii ni propaganda that have are baseless .ni hayo tu


Rumors can leave one stranded on the shores as the cruise ship starts sailing to the Caribbean
KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
iris
#364 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 2:45:15 PM
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maka
#365 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 3:03:50 PM
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Tarus?
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#366 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:21:22 PM
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maka wrote:


GetIT411:
KEN Tarus, the current Finance Chief at Kenya Power named acting MD; he takes over from Chumo whose term ends Friday. www.capitalfm.co.ke
possunt quia posse videntur
tnai9
#367 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:37:02 PM
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maka wrote:

GetIT411:
KEN Tarus, the current Finance Chief at Kenya Power named acting MD; he takes over from Chumo whose term ends Friday. www.capitalfm.co.ke


His name betrayed him nicely, and he is also a few years old in KP...hii mambo..hehehe
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
Ericsson
#368 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:15:33 PM
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jawgey
#369 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:19:31 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee

I've always wondered why he's so interested in the energy sector.. CS energy - a very close ally i think family too.
Seeing is believing
VituVingiSana
#370 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 10:28:08 PM
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This just continues to support my reason for not investing in KPLC
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#371 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:39:09 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee


Post a link with credible evidence.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Wa_ithaka
#372 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:19:42 AM
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Energy and Defence. Kula na kutafuna tu bila kulala
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
obiero
#373 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:29:33 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee


Post a link with credible evidence.

Read paragraph 4 and try to think why we only have one supplier of the concrete poles and who exactly that could be.. Anyone's guess is as good as mine http://www.the-star.co.k...n-on-power-poles_c837781

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#374 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:42:25 AM
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maka wrote:



Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#375 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:01:45 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee


Post a link with credible evidence.

Read paragraph 4 and try to think why we only have one supplier of the concrete poles and who exactly that could be.. Anyone's guess is as good as mine http://www.the-star.co.k...-on-power-poles_c837781


Elder @Obiero that is news of yesteryears. KPLC has largely moved from wooden poles to concrete poles
Kenya Power’s shift to concrete poles leaves tree growers in limbo
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#376 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:06:35 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee


Post a link with credible evidence.

Read paragraph 4 and try to think why we only have one supplier of the concrete poles and who exactly that could be.. Anyone's guess is as good as mine http://www.the-star.co.k...-on-power-poles_c837781


Elder @Obiero that is news of yesteryears. KPLC has largely moved from wooden poles to concrete poles
Kenya Power’s shift to concrete poles leaves tree growers in limbo

@elderpesa_nane I believe I wrote concrete poles supplier..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#377 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 11:33:56 AM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kazi ya kuiba by the DP iendelee


Post a link with credible evidence.

Read paragraph 4 and try to think why we only have one supplier of the concrete poles and who exactly that could be.. Anyone's guess is as good as mine http://www.the-star.co.k...-on-power-poles_c837781


Elder @Obiero that is news of yesteryears. KPLC has largely moved from wooden poles to concrete poles
Kenya Power’s shift to concrete poles leaves tree growers in limbo

@elderpesa_nane I believe I wrote concrete poles supplier..


Noted. Point is that there was 1 supplier then but today with increase in demand we have 54 local suppliers (wooden+concrete)
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
mlennyma
#378 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 12:41:21 PM
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Can never pay in time
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Pesa Nane
#379 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 12:46:52 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Can never pay in time

Shame on you Shame on you EFTs arrived Thur 02 Feb 17
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
moneydust
#380 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 12:59:34 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Can never pay in time

Shame on you Shame on you EFTs arrived Thur 02 Feb 17



Received mine too..it was a pleasant surprisesmile smile
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