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mashugli
#1 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:31:12 PM
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Now that France et al have started insinuating that it will not be business as usual, what should we expect as investors and as a country. We were beginning to shine so bright only to have our stars dimmed....
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alma
#2 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:37:44 PM
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Today I talked to a group of young ladies who are apolitical.

This issue of sanctions is a major concern.

So let's talk number and real numbers.

Look at the shilling since the suspects said they are running till today. That is what we call a trend.

Business as usual means that we get HIV drugs at 100% off. Business as usual means we get the loans we need. Business as usual means NGO's are funded. Business as usual means Kenia,hehe, is ok

It will never be business as usual for the next 5 years.

Unlike my friend who believes that we are not going to sacrfice the country for 2. I know we are.

So get a helmet. Get dollar accounts. Coz the shit is going to happen
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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mlennyma
#3 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:48:09 PM
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Travel ban tourism and kq dead,dollar inflow dead,kenya shilling downgrade,horticulture and tea eat it yourself.apart from the two suspects we have other aspirants but tribalism is about to drain our gains since independence.the most tribal are the business masters so if they have agreed to sacrifice their businesses then lets go under.
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techboy
#4 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:50:50 PM
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total bullsh*t... i think the first indicator of the consequences of sanctions being there will be the market . and we all know where the market is at now !
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alma
#5 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:55:34 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Travel ban tourism and kq dead,dollar inflow dead,kenya shilling downgrade,horticulture and tea eat it yourself.apart from the two suspects we have other aspirants but tribalism is about to drain our gains since independence.the most tribal are the business masters so if they have agreed to sacrifice their businesses then lets go under.


They didn't care for kamwana before.

Another post on this forum has alluded to the fact that if RAO was not running, they'd consider PK.

These are the educated Kenyans. Ha!

A guy from shags is a guy from shags.

Look at your child right now. Tell her/him that its ok, we are soverein. don't forget Moi moved the shilling from 20 to 80.

Uhuruto will move it, sorry have moved it, from 80, to 90 it will be 100 by March 4th. If the two are still in the ballot, 120.

Think!

Tell your child, I voted Uhuruto, coz I hate RAO, Pk, Martha etc. But don't worry baby, we are sovereign.


Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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murchr
#6 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:07:13 PM
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Hogwash, nothing will happen
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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ChessMaster
#7 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:14:31 PM
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murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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mlennyma
#8 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:23:24 PM
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It reaches a time when a country is bigger than an indivindual.I miss george saitoti. R.I.P
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Pick n Pay
#9 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:44:38 PM
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I think African (as l have said before) have the lowest IQs in the human race.

Threats for sanctions by US, UK, France, Switzerland are real. People do not want to listen.

I want the country to crush, burn, and enter into the worst economic turmoil it has ever seen. I am looking forward to the sanctions.

I want the economy to crash. I really do.

After that, that would hopefully make people think.
Greed is fear.
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jamplu
#10 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:53:33 PM
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mashugli wrote:
Now that France et al have started insinuating that it will not be business as usual, what should we expect as investors and as a country. We were beginning to shine so bright only to have our stars dimmed....


France and Britain didn't insinuate they were clear.

" We are supportive of the ICC and are members of the Rome Statute. Our policy is to limit contact only to the essentials. There is no surprise in that; it is a long-standing position,”

i wonder what more kimemia is looking for its simple english you don't need mutahi ngunyi to interpret the words unless we are being delusional.
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:59:24 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
It reaches a time when a country is bigger than an indivindual.I miss george saitoti. R.I.P
Huh? george was just pissed he was not the prince in waiting.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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murchr
#12 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 9:09:55 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.


Lets not bow to their demands then we'll see if they will not buy our flowers coffee and now oil. The more they talk the more people are getting the morale of voting in the Hague brothers.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mashugli
#13 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 9:26:33 PM
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They should instead encourage us and offer support of a smooth transition which we are all bound to benefit, regardless of who becomes president. A smooth election will take Kenya to places Africa has never known before....lets stay focused keep our country's star shining
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jamplu
#14 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 9:46:32 PM
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murchr wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.


Lets not bow to their demands then we'll see if they will not buy our flowers coffee and now oil. The more they talk the more people are getting the morale of voting in the Hague brothers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you think
this is the only country that can grow flowers and coffee or has oil? we are seriously delusional!
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murchr
#15 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 9:50:24 PM
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jamplu wrote:
murchr wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.


Lets not bow to their demands then we'll see if they will not buy our flowers coffee and now oil. The more they talk the more people are getting the morale of voting in the Hague brothers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you think
this is the only country that can grow flowers and coffee or has oil? we are seriously delusional!


We all know once supply is cut prices go up...that is not sustainable for them esp now that their economies are in the gutter.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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#16 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 9:51:48 PM
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An Alternative view to the potential "consequences" of electing a certain president

If we look around, most African, Asian and middle east countries with proven mineral and oil deposits are ungovernable.

Insecurity, political instability, significant socioeconomic imbalance, a marginalized economy, a dysfunctional state etc. are some of the features of these countries.

With the recent oil exploration in Kenya and confirmed deposits of coal and iron ore, we were quick to announce to the world of our findings. It is therefore a fact that mining is expected to be a major economic driver in Kenya in the near future.

It is possible that some dark forces somewhere wouldn't mind to have a destabilized Kenya so that the formal channels for managing these resources are rendered dysfunctional or even totally destroyed.

That would mean creating the ground to offer sanctions and whatever else would destabilize the country. So having a president with internationally tattered credentials would be the perfect recipe for this scenario.

Is this a phantom thought or a potential reality?
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simmons
#17 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:38:06 PM
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We need not be dictated by the western world.they should deal with there Ailing economy first.Let us learn to be self reliant.
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jamplu
#18 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:38:59 PM
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murchr wrote:
jamplu wrote:
murchr wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.


Lets not bow to their demands then we'll see if they will not buy our flowers coffee and now oil. The more they talk the more people are getting the morale of voting in the Hague brothers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you think
this is the only country that can grow flowers and coffee or has oil? we are seriously delusional!


We all know once supply is cut prices go up...that is not sustainable for them esp now that their economies are in the gutter.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly God help us all!
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Pick n Pay
#19 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:42:34 PM
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Sounds twisted but anything is possible in the wicked plans of men especially white people. But:-

Most of those deposits of minerals are being mined by foreign companies. We do not know the deal the government struck with these companies as to sharing of profits. Usually, the companies take most of the profits and it would be in their interest to maintain peace.

I doubt they would deliberately destabilize the Kenyan economy or the peace in Kenya. One, the Kenyan economy is non-existent since we are deep in debt. The economy is aid money from those who are meant to destabilize us.

And, Kenya serves the strategic interest of most of these countries since we are one of the "islands of peace" compared to most of our neighbors. 2007 demonstrated that the international community cannot let Kenya burn to the ground unlike a country like Rwanda in 1994.

Greed is fear.
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ChessMaster
#20 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:45:52 PM
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jamplu wrote:
murchr wrote:
jamplu wrote:
murchr wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
murchr wrote:
Hogwash, nothing will happen


Prove it.


Lets not bow to their demands then we'll see if they will not buy our flowers coffee and now oil. The more they talk the more people are getting the morale of voting in the Hague brothers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you think
this is the only country that can grow flowers and coffee or has oil? we are seriously delusional!


We all know once supply is cut prices go up...that is not sustainable for them esp now that their economies are in the gutter.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly God help us all!


Lets stop assuming our importance. Life will go on with or without us.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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